/biz/ - Business & Finance

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
A YEAR LATER WHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

YOU EVEN GOT DOUBLE DIGITS WTFFFFF HAS KEK ABANDONED US???????
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee

>>12132288
What's the point of this stupid shit? Someone too stupid to go to Twitter and read a post doesn't have much money. This isn't profitable. It doesn't confuse anyone who knows how to turn a door handle.

The more I think about it though, why was he looking for #chainlink on Twitter though? That's the only way he would have found this.

Just sell. None of you foghanded faggots deserve to make it, honestly.

>>12132325
its funny

>>12132337
it's funny for your fellow faggots in IRC who you tell you're posting stupid shit on biz. i'm not laughing though. this garbage is why everyone screeches "fuck biz i'm not telling them anything". quality thread attract people of value. shit threads like this attract more of you.

>>12132332
Hyperledger integration is pretty fucking key at this point. If you don't think so, you're delusional.

>>12132363
> shit threads like this attract more of you

yet here you are...

>>12132363
Explain why this is shit and not important? IT'S THE FUCKING CO-FOUNDER OF HYPERLEDGER YOU FUCK.

>>12132363
Im in several discords and biz is a better source of info than all of them. The best threads (no, not larpblaster or any of the other loudly wrong idiots) get ignored. If you weren't so busy being a buttmad fagbag you would know that.

>>12132331
I went and searched #chainlink on Twitter and found a hot Asian chick who posts about chainlink and follows porn stars. How come she has never been posted about here? Seems like prime biz marriage material.

>>12132421
Spare me the lecture, child. I am The_Crypto_Oracle.

>>12132380
I dunno, I wanna see if we can get him to fud link even more.
just a theory the more he attacks it the higher the price goes.

>>12132332
>he still thinks he's going to make it holding link

>>12132452
>I am The_Crypto_Oracle
>admitting this

>>12132288
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I read through a bunch of this guy's tweets

he just seems very selective about where blockchain is useful and where it isn't. The tweet he was replying to may have been the latter instance?

>>12132475
Fuck you, trash. This is why I left you all for Twitter. At least there I'm appreciated.

>>12132288
I don't see the context of this tweet with LINK. It looks like just a random reply about blockchain.

Fresh off the press: December 13th https://medium.com/@valueprop/flo-tzero-and-how-the-dlr-aims-to-disrupt-5bd34634f928

Best investment of your life time right here. Will you take 5 minutes to read it?

PROOF I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG.
Tzero will use FLO.

https://twitter.com/FLOblockchain/status/1072127080605904901


Original source.
https://medium.com/@valueprop/florincoin-the-tzero-connection-66697c81c873

This is the next 20-40x easy and #confirmed.

>>12132502
Literally replying to a post about LINK. I find it interesting how we would have come across this in the first place though.

Chainlink shills are annoying. Go build something

>>12132444
dude link that shit

>>12132491
t. larping faggit

>>12132549
https://twitter.com/Missing14557507/status/1069012369542590464?s=19

>>12132502
https://twitter.com/Missing14557507/status/1069012369542590464?s=19

>>12132288
> go to check and see if OP's pic is actually real
> find this instead
You have a cute way of shilling link

>>12132534
fuck off you fucking faggot
kys

>>12132576
saw that, wonder what he means by elephant and missing piece?

I JUST SOLD

>>12132576
He also likes and talks about Chainpoint and Tieron. Isn't that combination some sort of competition to Chainlink?

>>12132534
Ok, I just bought 1 BTC worth. Don't you fuck me on this, or I WILL find you and split your logs, if you know what I'm getting at. I have a very big dick, wide too. Not gay, just know how to get even.

>>12132537
He's actually right. I don't use twitter but occasionally read tweets when someone posts them here. All those faggots shilling link or ripple in the comments look stupid and cringy af

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>>12132576
And actually, isn't he saying that Chainlink isn't the actual oracle solution in this tweet as well? He's not agreeing with @silentWhstBlwr.

>>12132576
this one this newer than this
>>12132288
maybe he changed his opinion.

>>12132576
>the biggest crypto revolution of 2018 are oracles
guess he was wrong

sage, kys idiots.

>>12132602
It honestly doesn't make sense that a guy so bullish on ethereum would reply the way he did in the OP if it is meant to be taken at face value... it could be cope on my part, but he definitely knows it's not just a matter of convincing a bunch of companies to put their information into a database - unless he knows that there's something which can be offered in a completely secure manner which they can trust - I'm not sure what else he could be referring to.

>>12132638
literally my thoughts

>>12132638
Maybe he likes this
https://chainpoint.org/

>>12132638
he does play antagonist in a lot of his tweets, hard to tell desu, but I agree it is hard to think of what else he could be reffering to that would help enterprise load their data to the database. Maybe something to do with TEE, ZKP, ans RNG using town crier/sgx hardware on the link network. Im grasping at straws, but I cant think of what else it could be.

Someone posted a reply to that tweet 2 minutes ago with this account. That means someone in this thread owns this account.

>LINKtards are bagholding so hard that they have to promote their shitty token themselves
Lmao.

>>12132625
He's saying either Chainlink or some new added LINK functionality (like direct payment APIs or working SGX enclaves or ZKSNARK-enabled offchain computing) is the elephant -> "But we may have just found the missing piece." is definitely referring to LINK, otherwise he wouldn't have responded to that tweet.

He was definitely trolling in the Dec 2nd tweet as evidenced by the fact that he responded directly to an unknown Link shill account and referenced the Gartner hype cycle. He knows we're shameless moonboys who are looking for any scrap of hype possible.

He is talking about Rhombus

>>12132728
>He's saying either Chainlink or some new added LINK functionality (like direct payment APIs or working SGX enclaves or ZKSNARK-enabled offchain computing)
Good thought - this makes his previous retweet with pic related pretty interesting
> He knows we're shameless moonboys who are looking for any scrap of hype possible.
Much of his twitter shows open contempt for moonboy types because they make it hard to get the tech adopted.

>>12132658
>what would help enterprise load their data to the database
an ethernet cord

>>12132602
By elephant he means a BIG developer and guess what piece is he looking for.
Chainlink One Thousand Beri EOY

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>>12132288
I have been saying this shit for months. Non-PoW crypto = glorified database with bells and whistles. .

>>12132779
Now that I think about it some more, the "elephant in the room" might refer to both added functionality AND a large partnership/integration with someone who should probably care about public oracles coming on the scene soon. Something like how Paypal just integrated with coinbase for withdrawals, coinbase just listed LINK among a dozen shitcoins to be presumably listed, it's not a stretch to think that LINK might interface directly with paypal account APIs soon for smart contract payment processing (get paid in crypto, instantly convert to cash or vice versa).

>Elephant could be either coinbase or paypal.
>Or Binance since they've been hoarding LINK tokens for their eventual DEX launch
>Or Vitalik since he's the secret LINK puppetmaster and never mentions it publicly
>Or Sergey since he's reached critical body mass

You fags are stupid as fuck. This guy doesn't know shit about chainlink.

https://twitter.com/jwolpert/status/1068996857483935745

>>12132444
Junko Suzuki is a dude larping as a cute asian girl and might possibly be the most retarded link shill on twitter.

>>12132921
> Dec 1 - tweet indicating that he's studying chainlink and makes it clear that he isn't criticising it
> tweets after this start mentioning a big elephant in the room and he now seems to be replying to random chainlink posts
Nah, guessing that he's talking about chainlink is a fair stab in the dark at this point. Very few people really seem to be aware that the project exists much less how it will work.

>>12132970
I guess just to clarify - it's a stab in the dark as far as it isn't confirmed, but it's definitely a possibility considering everything else.

https://twitter.com/jwolpert/status/1074160008672231426?s=21

>>12132288
this is actually pretty funny

and nice two pair dubs

>>12133006
I missed that - nice find. Chainlink has definitely caught this dude's attention and anything which helps to solidify the hold we believe CL has is good news.

I don't mind fud threads sometimes.

wow the bad news just keeps coming

>>12133031
that's not a "nice find". he tweeted that literally 20 minutes ago

>>12133006
Ok, now it for sure sounds like one of the various flavors of private off-chain computation scaling solutions. Lots of math, very promising for adding to oracle functionality.

This is for sure the worst chainlink FUD ever.

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Delusional faggots

>>12133113
>but I bet it will help chainlink a lot
did you even read it?

Here’s a bone for you autists.
>Elephant in the room.
WASM
>Will help Chainlink
What is Rust? How does this relate to WASM?
You should dig.

>>12133037
Holy shit. Real time FUD. Well we need to find out wtf he's talking about.

>>12133136
how the fuck is that fud you imbecile

>>12133113
This isn't necessarily bad for Chainlink at all. He's talking about the other piece of the oracle puzzle, and if Chainlink can integrate it into what they do, then maybe the oracle problem will actually be fully solved.

>>12133153
what is he problem though? no one seems to know this elephant in the room is. any geniuses want to explain?

>>12133144
We don't know what it is yet. Hopefully he's not talking about another oracle solution. It sounds like something that will help Chainlink become the entire solution. We'll see. The fact that it's not Chainlink directly is kind of a let down. We'll see.

>>12133159
Scaling is still a road block is it not
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>>12132491
>doing it for appreciation
That's what LARPers are.

>>12133129
https://github.com/baidu/rust-sgx-sdk/blob/master/Readme.md

>>12133178
I think it is about scaling and off chain computation.
If what Sergey said was true running a TEE could allow the processing of data off chain and avoid clogging the Eth network so the hash power can be used only to confirm the data was processed.

If crypto kitties basically crashed the network we will never reach mass adoption until the scaling can be fixed.
My guess is that what he said is about TEEs and their importance in scaling.

have you all forgotten ?

>>12133258
Oh shit. This is about that group of Devs on San Francisco isn't it. Shit. What was their name?

>>12133129
You lazy faggots don’t deserve this.
https://github.com/smartcontractkit/chainlink/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=rust&type=

>>12133213
I also think he's talking about TEE's. If he's going through the whitepaper right now, he's aware of the integration with SGX and that this is an emerging synergistic technology. Both as a scaling solution to unclog on chain computations, but also of enormous importance is preserving privacy of sensitive data.

https://media.consensys.net/bring-on-the-stateful-internet-d589adc7bb65

>But security is about BOTH things:

> 1. anti-tampering
> 2. anti-surveillance

>Public main-nets are good at #1 and for obvious reasons bad at #2. Private databases are good at #2, bad at #1. Private blockchains aren’t very good at either one: 10 parties maintaining a distributed ledger on a permissioned network can easily collude and tamper with history or censor an otherwise valid transaction, but now you have 10 mirrors to hack into and see the data…10x more threat surface than a conventional Oracle database. Better hope every one of the IT managers in your consortium is as good as the best one!

>But what if you could get the anti-surveillance power of a private network that only you and your counterparties ever see but have it secured against tampering and collusion (without leaking private information) by a strong global pubic main-net? And what if you could use that same root network to help avoid some of the hazards of coordinating logic and data across multiple state machines (e.g., race conditions, deadlocks, non-determinism)?

>>12133277
SGX is utilized by using Rust. So what's the big deal? We know LINK has been working in this arena.

>>12133302
WASM is going to be big. A huge use case is TEE. Who is the gatekeeper now?

https://twitter.com/jwolpert/status/1074159461609209857?s=19

Whoever the unofficial Chainlink marketing is knows this answer. They should drop it in this thread.

>>12133319
I guess it's Chainlink since Sergey bought the rights to Town Crier?

>>12133330
I’d say that’s a reasonable conclusion.

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>>12133322
He's talking about Lucidity.

>>12133322
You're misreading.

>>12133343
Why does he keep linking Gartner into this?

>>12133340
I don't see the connection between them.

>>12133375
Probably because of the Gartner smart contract adoption forecasting they did. Don’t have the infograph with me now but has been posted before.

>>12133382
Check Wolpert's twitter likes. He's just discovered it, and they are working on a sidechain on Ethereum to solve scalability, which is the elephant in the room.

Is eth and link the god tier portfolio?

>>12133393
yes + monero

>>12133402
Don't have high enough cashflow to invest in 3 different projects...I guess I'll just stick with eth and link for now.

>>12133389
So what though. That yellow paper has been out for months and multiple teams are working on similar implimentations of scaling.

>>12133389
You have to remember that people like this also live in an echo chamber, and when in a position like this their conclusions are rarely challenged. They are demi-gods in their own short lived bubbles and that, like shitcoins, evolution will eliminate most of these arrogant fucks from the ecosystem in the next 12-18 months. This guy might be a literal who in 2020

>>12133422
All I am saying is it's very possible that Wolpert THINKS it's the next big thing and seems very impressed by the tech. It may or may not be, but it's worth looking into when the founder of hyperledger takes interest.

>>12133434
You're right, I am not saying we should go all in, just keep an eye on it.

>>12133441
Reasonable point.

I don't even know what they are talking about. This shit is way too esoteric for me.

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>>12133258
Yes, reminder plox

>>12133601
archived thread that talked about this meme a while back. still not convinced overall but have a look and see for yourself

>>/biz/thread/S11779597#p11779765

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>>12133698
Thank you fren

beautiful thread this has become

>>12133698
>what is this pajeetery?!

>>12133751
It initially looked like shit, but I think it actually turned out alright. Typical LINK mysteries.

>>12133322

sounds like brainlet

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>>12133939

ETH state channels and ensuring gas availability using TC and SGX will help link. This guy is in whether he knows it or not. I love you

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>>12132369
You're retarded.

This is the same guy who posted pic related just yesterday.

Obviously you're misunderstanding what he's saying. Try reading the entire thread for that comment in OP.

>>12133113
>but I bet it will help Chainlink a lot

lmao, fix your glasses grampa

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>>12133167
>"I bet it will help Chainlink a lot"
>fud

Either trying way too hard, or not nearly hard enough.
Either way, you're an idiot.

>>12132331

Good idea. Probably going to start posting a lot of innapropriate stuff with the #chainlink symbol so when people search for it they get filth. That way no one ever uses this philosophers shittoken.

> hope the memes were worth it.

>>12133322
The unofficial Chainlink marketing guy replied to this with "got it, true!".

You're not understanding, obviously.

>>12133284
I still don't believe we are that ahead of the curve. I would rather believe we are all Deluded af than knowing the writing is on the wall for everyone to see and we are the only ones that realize that

>>12134781
Coinbase

>>12134846
?

>>12134781
Yeah. He posted it yesterday after I started this thread while you were asleep you dumb fuck.

>>12135478
As if that changes anything to my point, trenchbrain.

You obviously misunderstood what he was saying.
See >>12134809
as well.

>>12134801
Sorry I'm paying attention to what the co-founder of Hyperledger is saying. Next time I'll do the digging myself and not mention shit to biz. Fuck you faggots.

>>12135484
Yeah he was asked to clarify AFTER I found him commenting in LINK shill. You should kys. Whatever. Fuck you faggots. I hold 114k LINK and I'll just keep shit to myself from now on.

>>12135498
Done helping out from now on. I've been here since the ED days. Too many lazy circle jerking NEETs in here. Goodbye.

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>>12135498
If you don't want people laughing at you for misunderstanding people's tweets, it's probably best to keep your "insights" to yourself.

>>12135502
Jason Parser? He’s Rory’s dad. He’s got a problem with Sergey because when Rory and Sergey were friends when they were younger, Sergey used to raid the cupboards and eat everything in the house. It cost Jason Parser a lot of money to replace all the food Sergey used to eat. The final straw was when Sergey was staying at Rory’s one night and stole his car when they were 15 to sneak out to a McDonald’s drivethru. Rory’s dad Jason thinks Sergey is a bad influence on his son and does anything he can to stop them being friends or working together. Why do you think we haven’t heard from Sergey in so long? Jason Parser has been staying with Rory and Sergey has been in hiding shitting his pants.

>>12132331
> he doesn't know about gay train chainlink

You guys gonna look into what the duck says and ignore the whole Jonathan Levi connection to Link

>>12134781
is he shilling his own bags?

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>>12135502
Dont let the bullies get to you fren

>>12135502
Please no, we'll be lost without you.

>>12132363
What's a good irc channel/network for crypto? On all the time but can't find a good channel.

>>12132490
Regardless he misses the point. If Facebook was on the blockchain and each user controlled their data they own it. Otherwise whoever owns the sai database owns the data.

However, blockchain ledgers are immutable so...

honest question buy 100k req or 10k link?

or wait for btc to drop further?

>>12135611
He's one of the key people behind hyperledger.

>>12134785
You want to invest in the things that make crypto work. not the projects that won't work without "the elephant in the room".

>>12135661
He misinterpreted posts as fud, using words like "link completely BTFO" and "not good", and you're calling him 'fren'.

You're as big of an idiot as he is.

>>12135892
Holy shit, this isn't your regular spin anymore, this is full-blown schizophrenia.

>>12135905
Pajeets have an irrational fear of elephants, you ignorant bitch. Nat Geo much? Obviously not. Turn your fucking brain on.

>>12136018
lel'd

this is now a pee pee poo poo thread

>>12133698
Wtf is this shit

>>12133113
u wish i was a faggot
ha got u

Hmmmm....

This is what he is implying:

1. The elephant he is talking about is related to oracle and smart contracts.
2. Chainlink can benefit massively due to this. He is even betting for this.
3. Its not Chainlink though.
4. He is reading Chainlink whitepaper for third time giving every hour per page. It shows he is genuinely interested in Chainlink and oracle.
5. He follows chainlink shills on Twitter and replys to their comments.

6. What can benefit Chainlink and smart contracts at this point ? TEE ? Off chain computation?

Think hard anons. Lets solve this mystery together. It will be good for all of us. This guy is fucking founder of Hyperledger and IBM Blockchain and knows shit what he is talking about. So we should pay attention to what he is saying.

>>12137245
LINK cryptocurrency token being 1000 US dollars end of year 2018

>>12137245
First though, we need to help pajeets overcome their fear of elephants. Only then can we move on to bigger mysteries.

>>12137195
Brainlet here...is this bad for link

>>12137245
>What can benefit Chainlink and smart contracts at this point ? TEE ? Off chain computation?
He referred to TEEs as one part of an overall environment.

Perhaps the answer is Ekiden?

“Ekiden—A Hardware Approach to Privacy-Maintaining Smart Contracts”
https://medium.com/zkcapital/ekiden-a-hardware-approach-to-privacy-maintaining-smart-contracts-c75ba67915b2

PDF file about Ekiden
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.05141.pdf

>>12137300
I dont think so. It will be good for chainlink. Chainlink can incorporate this feature easily if that elephant is open source. And chainlink will have first mover advantage plus network effect.

>>12137300
yes. sell now pajeet

>>12137314
Thanks anon for sharing. I will take a look at Ekiden.

>>12137369
it's over

Guys, this boomer is just shilling his own bag. Most twitter shills have disappeared and he likes the attention LINK brings him.

rhombus will launch their mainnet

>>12133698
I remember this thread but didn’t finish reading it at the time. Very interesting stuff. Seems a little too “in your face” though...i’m Inclined to think it’s some kind of scam but why so much work to create this elaborate scam? Don’t buy the whole “btc whales will dump for new protocol”. There are a lot of whales, someone would leak the info sooner or later.

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>>12137388
lel please tell us all about why that's the case.

>>12137369
Assuming his stance hasn’t changed significantly in the past 4 months, he believes there will be a primary protocol that plays umpire in whatever web3 becomes. This will probably be Something like Ethereum, as it is a global open state machine. He does, however, believe in a web3 multiverse with a bag of standards and protocols converging on the most useful tools. I don’t think he’s advocating against a core public blockchain, just that it’s role in the space will change as other tools are implemented to make it work better

>>12137245
After reading his tweets and really digging the internet for information I have come to the conclusion that what he is referring to is the singularity when LINK hits 1000 EOY and my dubs confirm it.

>>12135533
Checked & kekd, I remember this

>>12138030
What are your thoughts regarding the Chainlink/Pokadot parachain? Is the white paper available?

>>12135611

He is leveraging the autism of LINK to shill his own shitcoin bags

Kike tactic as fuck

>>12133698
wait what in the fuck is this?

>>12137245
>4. He is reading Chainlink whitepaper for third time giving every hour per page. It shows he is genuinely interested in Chainlink and oracle.
to me it sounds like he's reading the whitepaper of the thing that's Coming, not chainlink. anyone else?

>>12139788
no, it's very clear he's talking about the Chainlink whitepaper

>>12133698
Bump WTF is this project called even?

>>12140174
Municipal Marmalade.

>>12136018
Holy fucking kek

>>12132288
>Checked

That's fucking hilarious. Linkies on suicide watch.

>>12135799

How is that an honest question?

>>12138030

And he's right too - obviously storing data in IPFS > storing it on-chain for example.

>>12137369
LOL
another fucking pageet boomer shilling his dumbshit startip. He probably doesnt even understand link he just likes the autist attention.

>>12136588
Fucking based pee pee poo poo poster.

>>12140188
Fuck you

How many shadowLINK for a schlopper like this?

>>12133258
real frens drop info spit it out

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>>12132537
Kike

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based