[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/biz/ - Business & Finance


View post   

File: 542 KB, 1334x750, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12125209 No.12125209 [Reply] [Original]

> fresh caught salmon
> fresh ale
> brown bread
> peas pottage


https://youtu.be/WeVcey0Ng-w


Oh no oh no oh no


Turns out peasants weren’t peasants

>> No.12125253

>>12125209
Love this channel senpai.

>> No.12125273

I hate to be party pooper but peasants rarely ate animal products before green revolution.
Btw, salmon is highly contaminated, you should avoid it: https://youtu.be/RYYf8cLUV5E

>> No.12125284

>>12125209
They also worked less and had much more fulfilling lives because they did fulfilling manual outdoors work, and lived in cohesive communities where everyone knows one another.
They had spiritual fulfilment instead of postmodern nothingness anxiety.
Not to mention the unspoilt nature, top comfy architecture, and peak art.

There’s been a constant bashing of medieval European peasant life because “they” want you to be content with modern wage slavery.

Personally, apart from modern medicine, I’d rather live in those days.

>> No.12125340
File: 225 KB, 1145x717, bird-trap.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12125340

>>12125284
I mean look at this shit.

>no work because it's winter
>no constant car noise background
>top comfy buildings
>all there is to do is come together outside for fun winter activities, and then all huddle around the fire with a hot drink

>> No.12125383

>>12125340
Nowadays it's considered a luxury to have a legit open fire, and people travel halfway across the globe to see medieval-style buildings (e.g. Bruges etc.).

People also pay insane prices to visit actual "wilderness" (i.e. space), while back then even some decently-sized woods (which were EVERYWHERE) held a non-trivial level of mystery waiting to be explored.

>> No.12125403

>>12125340
That pic is from Pieter Bruegel 1565, was painted during the small ice age. During this time they had mass starvation and basically hunted witches / jews and other minorities as a consequence. Was pretty funny since they just came out of the 30 years war and the population in europe doubled. Accordingly they had now food and winter was all year for years nonstop. Sucked dick.

>> No.12125408

>>12125383
open fire does not heat the room, it leaves you chilled on the side facing away and causes cold airflow that almost cancels out the fire. fun for a while as an 'experience', but not actually desirable compared to an insulated room. You are forgetting that as soon as something *can* be avoided, it becomes cool and fun, like muffled record sound and cassette tape warble. When it can't be avoided people aren't laughing it up about how cool the warbling and uneven heat are

>> No.12125419

>>12125209
no
Turns out were the peasants

>> No.12125429

>>12125403
>That pic is from Pieter Bruegel 1565, was painted during the small ice age.
Ice age meaning wintertime fun. Look at any winterscape from that entire period, showing all classes of society.

>During this time they had mass starvation
Here come the propaganda.

The "little ice age" lasted from the 14th century until the 19th century.
This coincides with the late medieval period, the entire Renaissance, and the Enlightenment era, and even the beginnings of the industrial age.
To think this 'ice age' somehow stunted anything at all is laughably dumb since this entire period saw what many consider the peak of human advancement rate.

>basically hunted witches / jews and other minorities as a consequence
That's one dumb inference you're making.

>> No.12125454

>>12125408
>open fire does not heat the room, it leaves you chilled on the side facing away and causes cold airflow that almost cancels out the fire. fun for a while as an 'experience', but not actually desirable compared to an insulated room
All of this is total bullshit.

Go spend some time in any cabin-type dwelling with a fireplace.
I spend new year's eve with friends in a wood cabin in the Ardennes region of Belgium almost every year, and we have to keep windows ajar basically all the time to ventilate and allow some heat to go away.

And there was zero thought given to "muh resources" or "muh heating bill", and certainly not "muh environment". Trees were everywhere and in literally limitless supply.

>> No.12125457
File: 120 KB, 554x400, jny gif dab.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12125457

>>12125403
>During this time they had mass starvation and basically hunted witches / jews and other minorities as a consequence
FUCK WOMEN
FUCK JEWS
FUCK MINORITIES
AND MOST OF ALL
FUCK REDDITORS LIKE YOU

>> No.12125463

>>12125429
Im just telling you that the picture you posted with "I mean look at this shit" is not the beautiful late medieval romance you want. If you lived in pic related (Netherlands) you would have a much more FUN time than investing in FUN this year.

>> No.12125473

>>12125209
I don't ever eat as good as that, only very occasionally

>> No.12125474

>>12125463
>Im just telling you that the picture you posted with "I mean look at this shit" is not the beautiful late medieval romance you want
Except it is exactly that.
Look at them. Look at any winterscape painting from that era.

Bruegel paintings are the ultimate eye-opener when it comes to medieval times: wintertime comfy fun in winter, satisfying outdoor communal labor in spring and fall, and tons of festivals and feasts in between.

>> No.12125494

>>12125340
>No work becuase its winter
Most families would have some sort of side gig like knitting, making clothes, sheets, linnen etc. There was a lot less to do in Winter but they still worked really hard.

>> No.12125495

>>12125463
>If you lived in pic related (Netherlands)
Also that's Flanders you uncultured swine.

>> No.12125503

>>12125494
>Most families would have some sort of side gig like knitting, making clothes, sheets, linnen etc. There was a lot less to do in Winter but they still worked really hard.
That's not hard work.
In paintings from the time you often see men lounging by the fire, with the wench casually embroidering or some shit in the background.
My grandparents did the same. My grandmother couldn't stop knitting shawls and such even into her 80s.

>> No.12125507

>>12125340
Look at those houses though, you'd be paying top dollar for that shit today. But that's how a lot of fashionable trends start. Fashion often begins with the lower classes (Jeans are a good example)

Meanwhile over at King Louis the 16th palace you'd be smelling Piss and crap everywhere and your food is being parfumed because of the horrendous smells.

>> No.12125544

>>12125507
>Look at those houses though, you'd be paying top dollar for that shit today.
And they were built to last, too.

Those walls were solid instead of the modern cavity wall approach, and the roofs were constructed from solid oak beams that will last forever if kept dry.

If you see actual brick buildings from that time today (they exist all around me here in Belgium), you often see the walls have "settled" to some extent, but there's no loss of structural integrity.

>> No.12125547

>>12125503
It is when you're making a living of of it. There is litterly nothing else in Winter to do. Ofcourse the man is chilling by the fire, he's not going to do a woman's work. There's a stark difference but you guys are romancing it up a little as if it was the good 'ol days.

They probably had a lot of holidays and feasts though

>> No.12125570

>>12125547
They didn't knit and embroider for monetary gain, that was for their own family.

>> No.12125707

>>12125570
Perhaps, I don't know that. But what /biz/ is forgetting is that all the land, all the stock is owned by someone higher in the feudal hierarchy. And that they had to pay tremendous taxes on everything. The food might be nice but I would not want to live in that era.

Also, because you're basically property of some duke or king you'd be forced to fight should that duke, king or lord decide to wage war.

>> No.12125717

They also have shown studies that people were happier back then, I mean genuine enjoyed life. These days even millionares off themselves by suicide, suicide was practically non-existant in the middle ages feudal socities.

>> No.12125741

>>12125707
>Perhaps, I don't know that. But what /biz/ is forgetting is that all the land, all the stock is owned by someone higher in the feudal hierarchy. And that they had to pay tremendous taxes on everything.
And how is this different from today?

>> No.12125761

>>12125717
That's because they believed committing suicide was a one-way ticket to hell.

>> No.12125861

>>12125741
The ability to move up and down the social ladders is vastly greater than those days. You also have healthcare and won't die from a measely infection.

>> No.12125898

>>12125861
Didn't say those times were better in every respect.

That said, the social mobility thing isn't true. There were many ways for people to distinguish themselves in the field of art (from peasant to world-celebrated master was a common occurrence), religion (peasants regularly rose through the ecclesiastic ranks), combat (peasants becoming generals etc.), even just work (guilds etc. held great power).

>> No.12125914

>>12125898
>common
Stop lying you retarded faggot.

>> No.12125931

>>12125914
Fuck's your problem.

Bruegel is one of the prime examples. He went from peasant to universally celebrated artist within his lifetime.
Same with tons of renowned painters.

Another example is Da Vinci, whose father was a merchant and his mother a peasant, and he was rised among peasants by his mother's side of the family.

>> No.12125945

>>12125403
>hunted witches / jews and other minorities
BASED
I wish we had jewish pogroms again...

>> No.12126294
File: 1.29 MB, 750x1334, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126294

>>12125284
I think about this from time to time. Sure we have vidya and internet - but I feel we’d all have much more fulfilling and deeper community and happiness in our hearts with a focus on family, social interactions on a community scale, and something to do with manual hard labour that we could all look forward to relaxing by a cozy fire and drink cold ale without worries of any SJW women ruining anything. I feel a bit of guilt because who am I to decide what women should or shouldn’t do. But after becoming jaded by seeing actual women either from hearing it myself in person or from watching videos on the net at how they live such empty lives revolving around themselves and even abusing their kids... it gets you to look back.

>> No.12126325
File: 584 KB, 1168x1000, burger dog.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126325

>>12125209
the average Joe live more comfortably today than the riches kings 200 years ago, and twice as long.

your can keep your fresh salmon, warm ale and germ infested bread and pottage

>> No.12126352
File: 347 KB, 540x810, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126352

>>12126325
I wouldn’t want to go back to that time having experienced things like vidya and technology, plus you’re right if we wanted we could go out and have that menu because of the freedom of vast selections to choose from. I just wonder about how it would affect us all in terms of being fulfilled with closer community and shit.

>> No.12126377

Live was hard but downtime is real. My dad came from a remote village in kazakstan. So last generation still lived like middle ages with no machinery or even fertilizer besides animal shit.

tldr is:
summer : work as long as sun is up taking care of fields.
winter: do repairs you don't have time for in summer. A lot more leisure time is correct though.

The real downsides are food & medicine.
You don't get to eat whole year nice. Especially winter you can forget about a wide variety. You get meat and a few things similar to german sauerkraut that can be stored longterm. And if someone got seriously ill good chance to RIP due to bad connection to next town.

>> No.12126394

>>12126352
>hardcore christian family
>dad beats everyone in the house with his belt
>Lords want you to fight the plebs next door
>Back breaking work day in day out
>Priest wants you to have 12 children
>Priest wants all your resources cause the Pope wants another crusade
>Get a splinter in your toe and you're dead for
>Can't escape the life because of the social hierarchy, can't go into the woods because its filled with wild animals and creeps that will rob you

GOod thing life expectancy was so low, I don't think anyone would last very long.

>> No.12126411
File: 591 KB, 2000x967, Gates of Heaven.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126411

>>12126352
those closer communities was probably shit, everybody was god-fearing and if you stepped out of line you got ostracized way worse than with SJW crap today. you worked all day to grow potatoes and gave most away to your Lord and lived in fear of a bandit randomly killing you over a non-rusty bucket. at age 35 your body was all broken from manual labor from age 8 and if you ever got a small cut you're likely to die from infection because bacteria didn't even exist in those days as far as people were concerned. what is soap? if you were lucky to live to 40 enjoy the next 10 years in agony due to rotting teeth before you finally get released by sweet death around 55. probably all alone because your wife died in child birth and all your sons are off to die in some war and your daughters are someone else's property now

>> No.12126416

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng

>> No.12126435

>>12126416
love that scene, really like the peasant that just randomly clobbers into a creek (not included in the clip).

>> No.12126449

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D5_V72jMtM
it was later than i remembered, at 25:33
surprised to find the whole movie on youtube, nice that it hasn't been taken down


hm connection errors to 4chan

>> No.12126567
File: 276 KB, 1435x597, WALL-E-382.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126567

>>12126325
>more comfortable
Get a load of this faggot.

Pic related live even more "comfortably" than you.

>> No.12126576

>>12126394
>>12126411

All of this is bs.

>> No.12126590

>>12125284
They also had disease, wore wool at all times, slept with rats and fleas, and watched 8/10 of their children die

>> No.12126616

>In the spring of 1315, unusually heavy rain began in much of Europe. Throughout the spring and the summer, it continued to rain, and the temperature remained cool. Under such conditions, grain could not ripen, leading to widespread crop failures. Grain was brought indoors in urns and pots to keep dry. The straw and hay for the animals could not be cured, so there was no fodder for the livestock. The price of food began to rise; prices in England doubled between spring and midsummer. Salt, the only way to cure and preserve meat, was difficult to obtain because brine could not be effectively evaporated in wet weather. In Lorraine, wheat prices grew by 320%, making bread unaffordable to peasants. Stores of grain for long-term emergencies were limited to royalty, lords, nobles, wealthy merchants, and the Church. Because of the general increased population pressures, even lower-than-average harvests meant some people would go hungry; there was little margin for failure. People began to harvest wild edible roots, plants, grasses, nuts, and bark in the forests.

>A number of documented incidents show the extent of the famine. Edward II of England stopped at St Albans on 10 August 1315 and had difficulty finding bread for himself and his entourage; it was a rare occasion in which the King of England was unable to eat.

>In the spring of 1316, it continued to rain on a European population deprived of energy and reserves to sustain itself. All segments of society from nobles to peasants were affected but especially the peasants, who represented 95% of the population and who had no reserve food supplies. To provide some measure of relief, the future was mortgaged by slaughtering the draft animals, eating the seed grain, abandoning children to fend for themselves (see "Hansel and Gretel") and, among old people, voluntarily refusing food for the younger generation to survive.[10] The chroniclers of the time noted many incidents of cannibalism

tl;dr - OP is an ignorant faggot

>> No.12126623

>>12125707
>tremendous taxes
tremendous taxes
peasants had to pay a tenth of whatever they produced. income tax + ss is oabout 50% in my country, if you ad all the indirect taxation its more like 70-80%. it also pays for muslims and niggers and all kinds of degenerates. id love to be a peasant back in the good old days fuck modern civilizatoin it was a huge mistake basically ted kaszcynski was right about everything

>> No.12126688

>>12126590
>watched 8/10 of their children die
Source?
Also, tons of children born today wouldn’t have survived for a reason.

>> No.12126704

>>12126623
>peasants had to pay a tenth of whatever they produced

peasants lived at the mercy of their feudal overlord and were abused and slaughtered en masse whenever lords went to war.

>In the Harrying of the North, William the Conqueror's solution to stop a rebellion in 1069 was the brutal conquest and subjugation of the North of England. William's men burnt whole villages from the Humber to Tees, and slaughtered the inhabitants. Food stores and livestock were destroyed so that anyone surviving the initial massacre would soon succumb to starvation over the winter. The destruction is depicted in the Bayeux Tapestry.[11] The survivors were reduced to cannibalism,[12] with one report stating that the skulls of the dead were cracked open so that the brains could be eaten. Between 100,000 and 150,000 perished and the area took centuries to recover from the damage.

Also - to you and all other ignorant retards who unironically defends feudalism and "based peasant life in the Middle Ages" should read something about The Hundred Years War or learn about Chevauchée tactics.

Fucking ignorant imbeciles. Sitting in comfy chairs in front of a pc surrounded with all modern amenities and glorifying feudalism.
You wouldn't last a year as a peasant in the middle ages, you brainlets.

>> No.12126725

>>12126704
>peasants lived at the mercy of their feudal overlord and were abused and slaughtered en masse whenever lords went to war.
and?
I live at the mercy of my corporate overlords and while we might not have had a real war in decades, my soul is dying every day from living in this hellscape that is modern civilization. since suicides and psychosomatic illnesses are skyrocketing, I cant be the only one.

>> No.12126729

>>12126704
yeah we're much better off now with endemic diabetes, hypertension, kidney disease, female sex hormones in everything we eat and drink and touch and constantly being in debt to a (((central bank))), r-right fellow whites?

>> No.12126732

>>12126567
>>12126576
OK

>> No.12126765

>>12126704
You act as if modern wars were better.
People still burn people alive even today, large sections of land became permanently inhabitable due to minefields&chemical warfare. Especially a soviet conscript in the iron curtain during ww2 shouldn't hate his chances in medieval europe.

>> No.12126805
File: 45 KB, 903x960, 16e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126805

>>12125209
>eat salmon every day
>get mercury poisoning

>> No.12126806

>>12126725
>I live at the mercy of my corporate overlords

Do they kill you and your entire family if you won't show up to work? Don't start with 'muh mortgage' or 'muh car loan'.

>my soul is dying every day from living in this hellscape that is modern civilization
>muh soul is dying

Shut down your PC and fuck off to some 3rd world african dictatorship then, pussy. Everything you love so much will be right there.

But you won't do that because all your moans are nothing in comparison with real hardship.

if you or other pampered morons itt were actually subjected to 'le based peasant life in the middle ages" you would scream and beg to return back to your "corporate slavery".

Problems or modern society is not a reason to defend fucking middle ages and feudalism.
I bet you retards read Hoppe or some other cocksucker and now shill for feudalism/monarchy because of that. There's a reason why that formation went down.

>>12126729
>diabetes, hypertension, kidney disease, female sex hormones
>people literally eating themselves to death / making shit up because of lack of real problems
>OH IT'S SO HORRIBLE LET'S BURN EVERYTHING AND REVERT TO LE BASED FEUDALISM CUZ THERE"S TOO MANY FAT PPL AROUND xD

the fucking state of /biz

>> No.12126814

>>12126729
You are literally living in one of the most prosperous war-free and peaceful times in all of existence. Anyone who wants to live back then is fucking retarded.

>> No.12126816

>>12125209
Kek meanwhile amerimutts eat dfood full of chemicals

>> No.12126831

>>12126704
>drinking the “muh dark ages” Hollywood koolaid this hard

>> No.12126845
File: 75 KB, 638x1000, uTXY2Yi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126845

>>12126831
>hollywood invented dark ages
imagine being THIS dumb

>> No.12126848

>>12125403
Sounds comfy

>> No.12126855

>>12126845
Didn’t say they invented it, brainlet.

>> No.12126865

>>12126814
>You are literally living in one of the most prosperous war-free and peaceful times in all of existence.
Objectively wrong.

>> No.12126866

>>12125761
They were happier back then because they thought suicide was wrong?

>> No.12126868

>>12126855
nah, you just threw the "hollywood" buzzword in there without logic. I am surprised you didn't just blame the "librul jews" or "mainstream media"

>> No.12126873

>>12125914
Your head is chocked full of Jewish programming anon

>> No.12126878

>>12126806
>Do they kill you and your entire family if you won't show up to work?
The fact that you think this is what happened in the middle ages speaks absolute volumes.

>> No.12126893

>>12126868
>Hollywood didn’t greatly help perpetuate the muh dark ages myth
k

>> No.12126898
File: 60 KB, 1280x720, 1ADB0C6A-DBB5-4070-BB26-DA3E09D4B36B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126898

Thanks OP now I want to kill my self even more

>> No.12126906

>>12126893
I learned about dark ages by reading history, but hey if you need to watch movies to learn something you are a dumbass anyway

>> No.12126918

>>12126814
Objectively wrong.

>>12126704
>>12126616
Owning a device doesn't mean that your life is better or the world is better. More people per capita have died of violence in the last 100 years then any time in history. We also work more then any society historically. You also can't move freely.

You are just a happy slave.

>> No.12126921

>>12126765

Warfare is never nice.
Civilian casualties went up in modern times because of more effective weapon systems and increased population. In a 30 years war warring sides have managed to depopulate the entire northern part of Germany with just pikes and swords (+fire and hunger).
They would have killed more - there just weren't that many people left to kill.
Give these fuckers machine guns and B-52s - see how high the kill count goes.

>Especially a soviet conscript in the iron curtain during ww2 shouldn't hate his chances in medieval europe.

are you still living in the USSR in 1940s?
Last time i've checked US casualties in recent wars were minimal and have tendency to decline even further.

>> No.12126930

>>12126805
>mercury poisoned fish in medieval times
That's a modern issue. Industrialization flooded mercury into the sea. Middle ages had nofactories dumping it into the water.

>> No.12126940

>>12126906
>learned about the dark ages from books
>still calls them dark ages
>gets this upset
You watch too many movies.

>> No.12126945
File: 6 KB, 255x198, 323234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126945

>>12126940
yes brainlet, tell me all about how the dark ages were a myth because you saw that youtube video made from a delusional protestant christcuck

>> No.12126978

>>12126806
You're acting like every leader was like that. If every king/leader/feudal Lord was like that we wouldn't even be here today. You bring up very specific examples to counter thousands of years of rule by just kings.

>> No.12126981

>>12126866
No, they were miserable until they died. Can't commit suicide or you can't go to heaven. It's not a hard concept to grasp. They weren't more or less happy. They just didn't commit suicide.

>> No.12126992
File: 28 KB, 480x600, 2B196E20-9E11-44C3-8FA0-228F8898DE08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12126992

>>12126945
>hurfdurf Christcuck
Suddenly your impotent rage makes perfect sense.

>> No.12127002
File: 65 KB, 558x614, 1541719233210.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12127002

>>12126992
>le hat meme
>dark ages were fake!!
yep, classic schizo christcuck

>> No.12127013

>>12126945
Care to explain? You up the ass of muh (((Islamic golden age))) instead? Professor shlomo sure did a number on you.

>> No.12127019

>>12126921
>single country accounting for 4% of world population
Yes you are very enlightened. Good point. The world is better now. Thanks anon. I am happy paying my 88% taxes now. Thank god I have a phone, forget that I have to work 85 hours a week.

>> No.12127021
File: 12 KB, 380x268, King-of-Jews.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12127021

>>12127013
>muh schlomos
says the guy that worships a literal kike

>> No.12127034

>>12127002
Christianity shaped the West, deal with it.

>> No.12127045

>>12127034
dark ages were the peak of christianity, christianity doesn't exist anymore which is why the West is advanced again and not a shithole like back then

your kike religion is dead and never coming back again, I know you are butthurt about this but you have to deal with it eventually

>> No.12127046

>>12127021
>not knowing the story behind that picture

You really are a neckbeard or jew lover aren't you? Also you didn't explain.

>> No.12127063

>>12127046
a group of Israeli archaeologists reconstructed the image of an..Israeli man. Whats wrong with that?

not my fault you worship the King of Israel

>> No.12127082

>>12125457
Based and redpilled

>> No.12127085

>>12126805
>mercury pollution isnt a result of modern industry

>> No.12127088

>>12127045
>Christianity didn’t shape the Renaissance, the Enlightenment age, the Colonial age, the industrial age, the modern west; only muh dark ages
This is how the euphoric cope.

>> No.12127093

>>12127063
You are dense. Going back to my life with wife and three kids while you rage against the Jewish/frankfurt school construction of neo Christianity that rinos and new age faggots follow.

>> No.12127110
File: 71 KB, 634x476, kike.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12127110

>>12127088
Greek and Roman science shaped the Renaissance, the enlightenment, the colonial age, the industrial age and the modern west

your kike religion was a plague that delayed all those things

>>12127093
have fun worshiping your Kike Lord while you are larping buddy

>> No.12127114

>>12126878

>said the guy who unironically shills 'le based peasant life in the middle ages'

>>12126918
>More people per capita have died of violence in the last 100 years then any time in history.
>in the last 100 years

Maybe it has something to do with both world wars, deadly modern weapons and increased population?

>We also work more then any society historically.

Who's "we"? WHO'S FUCKING "WE", YOU TRIPLE NIGGER KEK?!
Do you know how long were working hours for factory workers in Victorian England or in first European manifactures? No?
Then shut the fuck up about "any society historically", you don't know the meaning of the words you're typing. Your ignorance is just staggering.
If you're working three mcjobs jobs because you just cannot stop to buy everything your eyes see and you're constantly in debt - don't type "we".

>>12127019
>>12126978
>>12126918


You fucking brainlets actually should get your wish granted one day - when you wake up one morning in 'le based middle ages' and enjoy 'muh wholesome peasant life". See how long it takes before you scream for your mum to get you back.

It's fucking unbelievable. You people bitch and moan every time when your pizza is delivered slightly cold or when amazon delays your shipment, or when the screen on the newest IphoneXX is not fucking bright enough. You don't have a slightest idea how hard peasant life was back then, nor anything about working the soil with primitive tools and dying a slow death from starvation if there has been too much rain or no rain at all this summer.

But okay, you still really want to be 'le wholesome traditional peasants'?

GO ON AND BE PEASANTS THEN

GO AND JOIN FUCKING AMISH COMMUNITY RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU FAGGETS

GO JOIN THE AMISH OR SHUT THE FUCK UP

Do you know how do I know none of you pampered LARPing fags won't actually do it? Need a hint?

>> No.12127162

>>12125717
probably because death was all around them. infant mortality rates means most people had AT LEAST one sibling die during childhood and many more would die in young adulthood from war, disease or famine. nowadays, we're so comfortable and safe that the only thing which WILL kill you is yourself

>> No.12127180

>>12127162
these retards will also say how back then people didn't get cancers, because they were all dying long before cancer had a chance to develop

>> No.12127402

>>12127110
>Greek and Roman science shaped the Renaissance, the enlightenment, the colonial age, the industrial age and the modern west
Yeah, totally not the Christian religion to which those people strictly adhered lmao.

>Bad things Christianity
>Good things not Christianity
Tipping at the speed of light.

>> No.12127415

>>12127114
>said the guy who unironically shills 'le based peasant life in the middle ages'
Said the guy who said “your family was murdered if you didn’t show up for work”.

>> No.12127420

>>12126918
>More people per capita have died of violence in the last 100 years then any time in history. We also work more then any society historically
Sauce?

>> No.12127427

>>12127402
Well, just after paganism was banned and religious prosecution started, the Roman Empire started its decadence and less than 2 centuries later didn't even exist anymore.

The brief moments in which the ban was lifted and pagans could go back to their temples were prosperous, but unfortunately they didn't last long before the next hippie fanatic emperor banned manly religions again.

>> No.12127429

>>12127402
>hurr worshiping a kike is what made europe advanced
imagine being THIS dumb. fuck off back to middle east if you want to worship semites bucko

>> No.12127435

>>12127114
>GO ON AND BE PEASANTS THEN
>GO AND JOIN FUCKING AMISH COMMUNITY RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU FAGGETS
>GO JOIN THE AMISH OR SHUT THE FUCK UP
Imagine being this upset.

>> No.12127446

>>12127429
Christianity shaped their lives and their thinking, absolutely.
Religion used to be pretty important, you know.

>> No.12127449

>>12126806
>muh starving third worlders
i spent significant time living in the third world (have you?) and I know that these poor brown people are a lot happier than the average western wageslave.

>> No.12127462

>>12127427
Paganism was backwards religion remnant of the past not suitable for the demands of the new era. That’s why it lost to a more advanced monotheistic religion, which just happened to be christianity, deapite all the gov support persecution of christians etc.

>> No.12127475

>>12127114
wow you are absolutely seething anon. why are you so angry dude? if the world we live in is so great shouldnt you be more happy and chill then? youre the perfect example of the neurotic western wageslave, getting taxed to death and then getting all butthurt when you tell him that life in the past was a lot better and less stressful

>> No.12127485

>>12127427
And then the later Christian west boosted humanity into the modern age.

>> No.12127499
File: 57 KB, 699x919, 1544460000795.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12127499

>>12127462
this. europe was really barbarian and dumb and only had some fake greek stuff like philosophy, science and engineering. It wasn't until the highly advanced Israelites came from a desert hole and spread their mesopotamian demon myths of bronze age that europe finally became enlightened and advanced!

>> No.12127504

>>12127162

It was mostly infant mortality, which was magnitudes higher than now. Once you made it past the age of 10, your life expectancy was about the same as a modern person.

>> No.12127521

>>12127180

No, they got cancers, too, and it was a death sentence, but rates were profoundly lower. Often went undiagnosed, though, This myth that 30 was considered “old” back then because of average life expectancy comes from people who don’t know how averages work.

>> No.12127613

>>12126805
salmon doesn't accumulate too much mercury because it's low on the food chain. it's tuna you gotta watch out for

>> No.12127661

>>12127499
>rubs hands
Yes, keep submitting to critical theory good goy. You'll get a comfy spot in the political gulag instead of a wreckers status in the bad goy gulag.

>> No.12127669

>>12127462
>gov persecuted Christianity
who the fuck taught you history?
Christianity was spread by the crown. They used monotheism as legitimization to rule and killed religious competition so nobody could say not my god. In rome they literally made a deal and went straight to destroying temples.

>> No.12127797

>>12126806
>Do they kill you and your entire family if you won't show up to work?
Haha holy shit.

>> No.12127812

>>12127045
>dark ages were the peak of christianity
>christianity doesn't exist anymore which is why the West is advanced again
The West wasn't advanced from the renaissance until maybe a few decades ago?

>> No.12127826

>>12127114
>Who's "we"? WHO'S FUCKING "WE", YOU TRIPLE NIGGER KEK?!
>GO ON AND BE PEASANTS THEN
>GO AND JOIN FUCKING AMISH COMMUNITY RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU FAGGETS
>GO JOIN THE AMISH OR SHUT THE FUCK UP

Boy, being dumb sure makes a person angry.

>> No.12127848

>>12126806
>I bet you retards read Hoppe or some other cocksucker and now shill for feudalism/monarchy because of that. There's a reason why that formation went down.

Yeah Jews and their (((Enlightenment)))

>> No.12127965

>>12127462
Nah, the romans got it right the first time creating an inclusive religious philosophy that absorbed all religions into their own. Christian (and islamic, and others...) monotheism is the backwards philosophy, since it rejects other religions and causes social friction. The belief that your religion is the only true one is what collapsed the roman empire. Internal confrontation caused by differences in religious opinion weakened the empire and made it vulnerable to external threats.

I much prefer the approach that every aspect of nature is a different god. It seems intuitively more natural to me. It also allows me to respect worshipers of other aspects of nature even if I prefer to worship my own. The existence of my god doesn't conflict with the existence of others and that allows for a cohesive society that can unite against an external aggressor.

>> No.12128018

>I actually click on suggested videos on jewtube, the thread
stay pleb, normies

>> No.12128087

>>12125209
They worked less than we do too and their women were not bitchy cows.

>> No.12128210

>>12126806
Imagine taking Jew cock this deeply down your throat and wanting the balls too

>> No.12128222

>>12127965
>monotheism is the backwards philosophy, since it rejects other religions and causes social friction

Being this fucking retarded

>> No.12128235

>>12126805
Back then they didn't have mercury

>> No.12128264

>>12125463
>let me socially and linguistically deconstruct this period piece and tell you why what you are seeing and thinking is actually the opposite
peak jewish "academia"

>> No.12128359

>>12125209
Modern day peasants btfo again. Yes OP modern day peasants have it the worst among all peasants in history.

>> No.12128379

>>12128222
Shut up and go confess to your priest that you said "fuck" in a basket weaving forum. Maybe he'll reward you with a handjob under the skirt.

>> No.12128388

>>12125403
>basically hunted witches / jews and other minorities as a consequence.
i hope i can do that without going to prison some day

>> No.12128432
File: 63 KB, 750x1000, dark.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12128432

10% is better than 0%

>> No.12128475

>>12128379
Lol you're the one who wants a multicultural society faggot. Is that all you got?

>> No.12128646
File: 56 KB, 968x681, christcuck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12128646

>>12128475

>> No.12128703

>>12128475
I used the word assimilation. You might want to grab a dictionary.

Assimilation is impossible when monotheistic religions are involved, but it was perfectly possible in the Roman Empire. In fact it's what made the empire successful and we should learn from it. It's the christcucks that ruined the empire by created internal friction.

>> No.12128812

>>12125340
>constant toothache that slowly spreads through your jaw and sinus over a number of years
>"just pack it in a poultice of red wine and cloves, bro"

>> No.12128939 [DELETED] 

>>12128264
>>12128210
>>12128018
>>12127848

>muh joos

fuck off to >>>/pol/
/biz/rael is anti-antisemitic board

also you stop shitposting on your pc/smartpones and go harvest hay, or His Lordship will be very angry

>>12128812
/this

>literally dying during a famine
>"well, at least i'm not a shitposting neet who's so bored that he spends his time glorifying feudalism on a Japanese tapestry posting board, while stuffing his obese mouth with tendies from a local supermarket! THAT would have been worse than serfdom, i tell you!"

>> No.12128997
File: 128 KB, 344x197, tp78R76.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12128997

>>12128939
pic related is you

>> No.12129019
File: 1.32 MB, 2000x1566, vgpw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12129019

First, I want to say - thank you, OP, for a nice thread. I find that the Internet enables the creation of "digital villages," as you can call them - we know them of course as imageboards and forums - where people can come together and discuss things of interest in our virtual town square, even though we likely live hundreds of miles from each other. It's truly wonderful. I've also always been fascinated with the manorial lifestyle - so this is an especially nice divergence from the usual cryptocurrency threads, as valuable as those can be.

I've been thinking about founding one of those historical reenactment villages. Does anyone know if they tend to be profitable, or at least self-sustainable?

>> No.12129023

>>12128997
>inb4 wtf is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M4VnhVdqsA

>> No.12129042

>>12128646
>>12128703
You all are the ones who cannot read. I spelled it out clearly. You subscribe to critical theory. You are faggot goys thinking you are "helping" because you are against neochristianity. You know no history because you were taught by teachers that were handed teachings by cultural Marxists. Why do you think Vatican 2 focused on ecuminism? Why do you think newer versions of bibles turned key traditions into watered down faggotry? Christianity has been subverted and it's pathetic now. All your gay ass attitude brings is takeover by stronger cultures. If you weren't such a brainlet I'd suggest actually researching things but all you do is post anti Catholic garbage like it somehow refutes me saying Christianity has been subverted? You are beyond retarded and at this point I truly think you are lost so you may want to just off yourself.

>> No.12129082

>>12129042
>Christianity has been subverted and it's pathetic now

kissing nigger feet IS the real Christianity. didn't that jew guy Yeshua tell us that?

>> No.12129634

>>12128812
Actually they just pulled them and that was that.

But medicine in general is definitely better, no doubt about that. I said as early on in the thread.

>> No.12130015

>>12125544
you can still build them that way but nobody will pay for it. Solid tmber and labour is expensive.

>> No.12130032

>>12125340
Yeah sounds cool except that you would not be around to enjoy it since men were constantly being forcibly conscripted for nobles' stupid wars. Men were in short supply during the middle ages.

>> No.12130680

>>12130032
Wars were a summertime activity.

>> No.12130722

>>12125273
good thing i don't live in norway

>> No.12130961
File: 335 KB, 1029x1037, Screenshot_20181215-164326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12130961

>>12129082
You know so much. The Christianity of Constantinople, the Crusades, old Europe, anti usury, anti jewry, and more was recently discovered false! Anon and some new age faggots say God's will is to kiss nigger feet! Oh anon how my eyes have been opened!

>> No.12131774
File: 79 KB, 482x427, 1534217248804.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12131774

>Eat shitty processed food
>Social media has ruined socializing and makes everyone petty and superficial
>Almost impossible to find a decent loyal woman
>tfw we are actually living in the worst time line.