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first for losing all money

>DOW under 24k

Can't wait for the lunch hour dump.

Thinking of buying some $LAND for long term. Thoughts?

So glad my retirement is safe on the ma......

It's over for SPYcels

Reminder this is what those of us in the industry call a buying opportunity.

me as more losses come.

>>12075439

>>12075444
>"in the industry"

Get the fuck out of here tripfag idiot. No one cares about your neet opinion.

>>12075444
check'd, but DB and GE are literally going out of business with no bail

>>12075452
go fuck your self.

>>12075444

Go ahead.

No one in the industry is buying - its literally just morons trying to catch knives at this point.

glad I have someone to buy my contracts though, thanks

>>12075444
>in the industry
You have a nametag on 4chan. Hard to take anything you say serious

>>12075457
>has naked puts on (((Deutsche Bank)))

Feels good man. Why doesn’t literally everyone do this? It’s basically free money.

>>12075457
This is the power of German engineering

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

baby boomers will decide to retire on their lunch breaks

>>12075457

>DB and GE are literally going out of business with no bail

Stop I can only get so erect.

>>12075424
Anyone?

GENERAL MILLS KILLS

can we just flash crash down to 2200 and be done with it?

Guys who sold like I did.. What is your reentry point into the market? I know it might take 6mo-1y to get down to the true bottom but what are you going back in at?

>>12075514
When is the bottom so I can buy?

>>12075522
no, the market will inflict the maximum amount of pain on the maximum amount of people before it completes a move.

>stabilising

How boring.

Guys, I just sold my PUTs :D Whole portfolio +20% :D

Jus rember happy day

>>12075522
>2200
Why not 1800?

>>12075531
>selling
You fucking pussy

fuck china

>>12075551
You misspelled rational.

>>12075531
Not sure at this point but 100% not going back until 2019 is over

>>12075533
Today is the bottom

>>12075531
Next year Feb /Mar
if capitulation happens
But I would pick and choose once the Feds declare a recession

>>12075424
taxes

so no

>>12075558
Do they ever come out and say "We are in a recession" or do they just try to make it seem as good as possible?

I had just gone into the Marine Corps in 2008 so I was in boot camp- SOI and had almost no idea what was going on.

Major support at 2580. Watch that level.

>>12075465
Lel, I was 30% equities at the top with the rest in commodities, gold, short and long term treasuries. I'll be 100% equities when the SP500 is down 70%.

When the next crisis blows over I'll own a shitload of earnings power I bought for pennies on the dollar and my portfolio will skyrocket off the bottom. Might even buy rental property if it gets cheap enough, because I have a safe government job to service the mortgage, great credit score, and almost zero expenses (live with and take care of grandma). Might even have some inheritance to invest if her condition gets worse.

>>12075566
>>12075558


I wonder what they have changed in their protocol since 2008

>>12075555
>selling the bottom is rational
You should have averaged down

G-golden bull.... y-you wont even remember this correction in 24 months

>>12075387
>Id: bog

>>12075551
I'll sell some to lower my stcg. atleast save some on taxes.

Hmm I expected a lot more capitulation at this level. Might close my position.

>>12075584
>the bottom

Oh you sweet sweet summer child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULWjDOvEii4

>>12075590
kek

>wake up
>check broker

>>12075557
not even close

>>12075387
I'm actually getting justed hard AF with my defensive folio wtf

>Bulltards making fun of bearbros last week
Who's laughing now

>>12075555
You rational pussy

>>12075614
>he went to die for Israel
>thinks he can time the market they control
Ironic

I don't know anymore. Anyone think we'll get a holiday bounce or is it dead?

>>12075640
Portfolio structure doesn't matter in 2018. There is only the market. You can blame index funds.

>>12075637
Its down 50% and the fed slowing rates would give food stocks a reversal

>>12075650
And here is the table for the Golden Bulls (TM):

>>12075663
half true half bs, etfs are not 100% yet

>>12075663
Part of the reason the market is rolling over is the illiquidity of ETFs.

>>12075673
I Hate you Kneepad

STOP FUCKING SELLING

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

how much should I sell reluctant kneepad girl's live suicide video for?

>>12075673
RKG don't use guro for OP, you're going to cause trouble

>>12075677
it's something like 20% last time i looked

>>12075679
where are you getting that from?

la la la la la
la la la la la la la

aaaaaand we will NEVER be below 2600 again

important DD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZCWv-aKHcw
>>12075698
my (((bloomberg)))

Can some one tell me why there is so much downward pressure on the market? I've been under a rock.

>>12075724
There's no pressure, just a fight between buyers and sellers. The buyers are currently losing.

>>12075650
Too soon ... IT WAS A SHAKE OUT!

>>12075387
the new robinhood update fuck up my keyboard is not appearing

>>12075724
blue wave

>>12075721

buy then faggot

leverage leverage leverage

Dont forget to buy CAG
they are raising hell after acquiring Pinnacle foods
already firing 500 workers

Now cag we big a decent part of the potato chip marketshare thanks to hawwian chips, as well as the near full syrup marketshare

I had went long after around 25mins of market opening with all in options and no day trades left. This push back up gives me hope. Please.
God help me ):

OH MY GOD IT'S ALL OVER
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SELL SELL SELL

Just bought my Calls.

>>12075780
I fucking hope you get bogged.
You think this is fucking joke?

OH MY GOD IT'S ALL OVER
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SELL SELL SELL

>>12075755
What do you think of LW for potatoes?
>>12075780
You're being really annoying

>>12075724
People need money to buy Christmas presents
It is only natural for them to sell some pf their portfolio to raise cash

>>12075786
>>12075787
posted the wrong pic, my bad
also, :^)

>>12075792
I find pink wojaks and AHHH STOP SELLING REEEE posts annoying
It's a matter of personal preference

>>12075787
>>12075780
Kill yourself, fag boy

>>12075796
this and chinese new year

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M LOSING EVERYTHING PLEASE STOP

I'm going to disappear for a while. I am now focusing solely on both making and saving as much money as possible outside of investments. When I have a green portfolio I will return to shitpost, but until then its time to get autistic about success. This isn't goodbye, its see ya later.

>>12075724
Soros withrew on oct 5th
continuous fud all around casue of it
then yield curve fud
Trump canceled our bullrun after G20 by shutting down the markets

>>12075792
LW is one of the few foods I dont follow, I keep hearing it lately

Also KDP and MKC are on a literal golden bull run, should have held REEE

nice red day. Just bought some CGA on NYSE

>>12075812
Godspeed CG.

>>12075812
thanks for playing, calc

SPY is going down to 130 as I said last week. This is the end of the everything bubble. I would go all cash. Usd will be very valuable in coming months.

>>12075812
>quitting at the bottom

>>12075812

Imagine thinking you have to say goodbye on an anonymous 4chan board.

Oh wait its a tripfag. How do they manage to be such faggots all the time?

>>12075812
don't come back. dumb tripfag attentionwhore

>>12075799
Fuck you too.

>>12075812
See you after lunch, son.

Mark my words: "no bear market"

>>12075812
Goodbye

>>12075812
Fuck yourself tripfag.

>thinking that DB and GE won't get massive bailouts
>not buying them while the price is low

anyone like my new nigname?

I'm scared brehs

>>12075878
>Interest rates are at 2%
Do we even have any fucking room to buy off everything without just causing a massive spike in inflation? It would be hilarious if the US was all like "lol Venezuela", only to be stuck in the same situation as they are.

Volatility good. Trading good.

>>12075884
Noice!

If RKG could have lived just a little longer we could have had a prosperous new year, now we're all fucked and going to retest the Feb lows.

Buy SPXL now and end of day
Enjoy your free money machine

>>12075895
thx for hodlin up the morale

>>12075903
we just need a few more Small specs to capitulate and we're golden bull

>>12075888
The US is doing a Venezuela too but it just takes longer because we have more wealth.

>>12075566
>>12075583
When they can't hide behind the data, they have to come up front, usually around Aug/Octo.
Given how things accelerated, (>60%) risk of a recession hitting early in June/July

>>12075802
yes
This is what seasoned operators in the financial markets call "seasonality" :^)

It's time for the Lunchtime Checkup!

What're you eating how're you doing?

I'm just having a basic salad today. I've been beat to shit the past two weeks, just going to ride this out, it's not actually that bad but eh.

Apologies for not posting, been meeting with HR a lot and it was my birthday this weekend so I had some time off to decompress. I think I'll be retraining to pharmacy tech and get tuition reimbursement to go into radiology. Got another meeting Thursday.

>>12075957
>What're you eating
DIRT
>how're you doing?
JUST

>>12075957
We're all mourning the death of RKG and watching the market's journey to the center of the earth.

>>12075957
Down 1.5%
I have the sneaking suspicion Im going to lose all my money on Food stocks

>>12075984
Well that's what America gets for electing a bunch of commies. Now we get to starve.

Pretty heavy BAC and C bags but if history repeats this 3/5 yield curve thing isnt the real catalyst for total bank rout, especially now that they are actually profitable

>>12075957
happy late birthday.. mine was on the 29th.. looks like we're both Sagittarius.. the best zodiac of all the zodiacs

>>12075999
checked. that's why i invested in CGA, it's a little less hunger in the world.

>>12076003
Hell yeah, agreed

>>12076003
>>12075957
Happy belated to ya both boi's.

wisdom

>>12075999
I guess Trump was a Soviet plant after all.

What if instead of a violent crash we just get a slow grind bear market? That's what this is starting to look like anyway.

>>12076111

>>12076116
the only real long term bear market was mid 60s-70s, it was a 50% slow bleed over 15 years

I wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy

>>12076111
Thank you for this outstanding technical analysis, Peter.

Reminder that holding to the end of time has proven to be more successful than trying to time the market, aka buying high *drops spaghettio* selling low

>>12076137
PLEASE NO

>>12076116
Unlikely, considering the current heat in the economy and the amount of leverage that's increasing. In order to get that kind of performance, we'd probably have to see some austerity from corporations, and deleveraging to prevent a recession and big defaults. I simply don't see how that's going to happen in the next couple years, let alone months.

>>12075957
>Eating
Nothing

>Doing
Sitting around in a lab doing nothing in a group with my lab mates

>>12076137
Wasn't that when the rice farmers and Ruskies kicked the asses of the rice farmers and Americans?

>>12076178
Its the last part of the spx I really need to study but basically there was a lot of problems like WAR Too much inflation, some oil problems ect

>I like to get my macroeconomic predictions from a literal communist.

OOO PUMP IT

>>12076137
This was the period of the largest drop in the rate of profit in industrial capitalism and was the consequence of the social democratic post war period. To the extent this might happen again it would be the result of decreasing exploitation and increasing organic capital composition in China. While they're now up to middle income status, I don't think they're quite at the level of development required.

>>12075812
Oh no

>>12075724
Started when Drumpf called out Soros on Twitter. Literally been wojacks and reee posts since then.

Goodbye Ford holders, down below 8 you go

Hedge funds like george soros Have new buys on food stocks
https://www.gurufocus.com/guru/george+soros/stock-picks

Soros is buying KHC CAG (pinnacle)) Micron and Alibaba

TQQQ is green right now.

it is now safe to reenter the market, with leverage

>>12076273
FNGU LABU TQQQ the dream team all green

>it's the #5237th pump event since two months, everyone rejoices, and yet we'll close red, and tomorrow will be red as well
Won't fool me

>>12076247
I feel like Mufasa just pushed me off a cliff

I wanted to see the VIX go to 100... D:

>>12075682
<3

>>12075691
why would RKG kill herself when all she has to do is not take medicine for a few weeks

>>12075695
this was momentous occasionally

>>12076247
I want to start loading under 7.. while I load i'm going to be selling weekly covered calls. should be a nice stock to scale into for years once it gets below 7

>>12076206
By this time next year we will be enduring a crash that leads to a massive contagion of defaults and bankruptcies in small regional banks and perhaps one or two large ones, leading to massive consolidation of finance without some kind of policy intervention.

For the first time in history the FDIC's Deposit Insurance fund will be blown the fuck out and they'll have to resort to government revenue streams such as borrowing or taxation to preserve the federal guarantee on deposits.

Small banks have been sold complicated CLOs from larger banks who cannot hold them, including CLOs of repackaged small bank debt. All of which counts towards their reserve requirements. This will explode big time.

This time the rate of profit will decline permanently as we see higher class conflict preventing higher levels of exploitation in developed countries, as well as in China. As the recovery begins, we will see massive capital investment in places like Vietnam, India, and Ethiopia, in search of better profits with cheaper wages and lower levels of organic capital composition.

Screencap this.

>>12076309
>why would RKG kill herself when all she has to do
>all she has to do
>she
>she
>she

when will you guys wake up and realize RKG was just some dude LARPing as a sick girl?

>>12076276
It rejected resistance pretty hard.

>>12076309
>gopro under 5
kek
3rd place soon

why do all tripfags hang out here

>>12076374
Why would anyone who is trying to make money stop accumulation on a down day to pump the stock? That's pure manipulation.

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short sell bitcoin group se

>>12076409
I like to talk about one stock so i made a trip about it... for the rest of the tripfags.. well they're just faggots

>>12076409
Got no trip homie, jus a name..
If you mus know the names jake....Jake the muss.

>>12076430
>>12076409
I like to talk about how capitalism economically necessitates its destruction, so I made a trip about it. Also, I'm a faggot

>>12076421
Report this guy

>>12076443
shut up Eric

Would Huawei really be more of a risk for government snooping than any american company

>>12076461
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>>12076430
I trip because I feel like it. Sell your FVE we're going to 0.

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reblyed :DD do everyone
shord sell bidgoin groub sdogg

It's beginning to feel a lot like two thousand e-eight

Everywhere you go

Take a look at the red candles again, they're dumping my friend

It's time to get out you know

Merry Christmas /smg!/

>>12076497
>Sell your FVE
I will on the next bounce.. thanks a bunch faggot... Buy some LCI

>>12076496
Would be way better branding for bond trading

>>12076456
your analysis is surprisingly Schumpeterian for a communist
pretty good, possibly the wokest tripfag I've ever encountered

bulls lets go

>>12076502
kek byt seriously it hasn't really felt like Christmas for me yet. I have the tree up but no snow and busy work... fuck I need to buy presents.

>>12076534
ehhh its kinda cold out and i been at work all day can we jus stay in?

before you buy you should ask yourself "will stocks ever go lower" if the answer is yes don't buy

>>12076358
Bro, can I get a che guevara t-shirt in men's M size? k thx

>>12076549
>just predict the future bro, like just time the market retard

DIAMOND SUPPORT @ 2600 GOLDEN BULL HERE WE COME

MSFT is my smallest position and of course it's the only green one.

>>12076560
SPX will NEVER go below 2600 ever again

>>12076549

THREADLYREMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Another week, another opportunity to cost average and get a better yield on cost

>>12076523
I'm not very familiar with Schumpter's work, do you have any reading recommendations?

Also, ty anon.

>>12076487
>Facebook tracks the whereabouts and personal lives of everybody with a security clearance
>everybody relying on Google Authenticate to log in to shit
>AWS stores a buttload of classified info
What could go wrong, lol?
What could go wrong, lol?

>>12076591
start with "capitalism, socialism and democracy"
he had also written some interesting articles on tariffs and inflation which you can find online. I think they are listed on his wikipedia page

> FED raises rates to 2%
> US economy hemorrhages

'Strong economy' guise.

>>12076631
I'll check it out, might get some reading done during christmas vacation.

>>12076635
a-at least we have positive rates :(

honestly imo the fed should just rip the band aid and go to 5% fuck the consequences

>>12076638
>is a communist
>is in high school
YIKES

Trade wars are easy to win

ECONOMIC WAR

>>12076667
>honestly imo the fed should just rip the band aid and go to 5% fuck the consequences

8-11% is healthy range, but U.S. or economies pegged to it are too weak to handle it.

>>12076678
>only high schoolers take christmas vacations
Are you ok anon?

>>12076638
Are you unironically a commie?

>>12076687
what economy has the highest intrest rate?

>never sell
>die with hoards of money never having spent any out of fear
>this is what winning feels like

OH GOD ITS REBOUNDING. MY SPY PUTS. Jesus no.

Check the QQQ now ;)

>>12076695
>doesn't deny it
oof

RED TO GREEN
RED TO GREEN

>>12076706
Shit holes. EMs would crash and burn if U.S. had higher interest rates than 2%.

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/interest-rate

>>12076540
lets go out and bar hop tonight with our bullish gains

Guys I went all in on SPY short term high risk spy 262 calls at like 25 mins after market open with no day trades left. I almost capitulated at the very bottom and said fuck it I will (le hodl meme). Look at me now. I prayed to God to forgive me and I have been delivered.

So robinhood just randomly marked me as a day trader when haven't even bought or sold anything today?

Who the fuck is manipulating this shit. RIGHT AFTER I get my spy puts the market reverses 2% for no reason? Fuck this rigged trash.

>>12076702
what self respecting communist would own stock. its a larp

>>12076358
Marxist analysis is wasted on /biz/ my dude, I don't know why you bother. I only come here to watch the pink wojaks on bad days.

>>12076523

>Schumpeter

Literally the most chad economist in history:

>Schumpeter claimed that he had set himself three goals in life: to be the greatest economist in the world, to be the best horseman in all of Austria, and the greatest lover in all of Vienna. He said he had reached two of his goals, but he never said which two,[5][6] although **he is reported to have said that there were too many fine horsemen in Austria for him to succeed in all his aspirations.**[7]

>>12076743
most western commies are trust funders

>>12076734
Do you sell calls friend? If you bought some stock and someone exercises their call options on you and it just so happens to be on the same stock you just bought, it counts as a day trade since it sells the stock to them. Good luck to you my fren.

>>12076739
idk but my company should be putting 2.4 million into it after hours today

>>12076739
The market fell this morning because they had to price in Trump's impeachment. Everybody saw what they said on the Sunday morning talk shows. So now that the impeachment has been priced in the market can rise because there's no more FUD to price in.

>>12076739
God did it

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/cmc-np120418.php

>>12076760
Yeah, now that they see how bad both the fed and special counsel want to come up with anything to remove trump.

Just remember when 2 months before 2020 election that Jerome comes out wiht "I want to hike 10 times in 2021" and the market crashes what was up.

The whole thing is fucking rigged and Trump should be catching bods of traitors.

>>12076358
would be better if you had actual citations, i dont care if youre a dumbass materialists or not

>>12076794
his use of big words shows he is correct

that's how it works

YEAH! I'm thinking we're back.

>>12076714
I'm graduating from college in May, anon, and I'm already in the workforce. this is pretty desperate.

>>12076702
Yeah. I subscribe to a certain materialist analytical framework put forward by Marx and developed by Althusser, and I believe socialism of one kind or another is a necessity.

Ethically, however, I am an Egoist most days, or a Franciscan Catholic on the others.

>>12076743
I own stock because we live in capitalism, and most people, even ordinary workers, need to invest to get a decent standard of living. I'd like to buy a house for me and my sweetheart to live in one day, and I don't expect full communism in the next ten years, though it'd be nice.

>>12076811

you shouldn't have made this post

So the market is just going to go flat for the next 2 months, bouncing up or down based on rumors of how well/poorly negotiations with China are going, before finally mooning or crashing on the actual announcement.

Is the entire twitter anti-tesla brigade just funded by chanos or is there something else at play?

Is it all drummed up by zerohedge alone?

there was one that was rolling $50 puts that had been 1 month out constantly. Probably completely out of money now.

>QQQ already green
>SPY going to turn green by eod

Is there anything more pathetic than bears? They are literally hoping for everyone to get poorer. The worst thing is the bears here probably aren't even loaded up on shorts, they are just sitting on the sides with their fiat deluding themselves into thinking they are smart, not realising that if the market crashes their fiat is also going down.

>>12076825
yes. just day trade the huge movements bro :) we can make it! made over x6 in the past 27 days so far. good luck fren!

>he checks QQQ again ;)

>>12076818
>subscribe to a certain materialist analytical framework
>own stock because

You are just another trust fund white hipster with nothing exciting going on. You won't be anything special or all that different. Plenty of your peers are doing the same thing. Make sure your vacations to south america don't get you killed.

>>12076834
bears are horrible people inside and out. You can tell by their posts how deranged and spiteful they are

Apple broke resistance on the third attempt and then defended it. Very bullish!

Why are stocks so correlated? Is it because of index funds?

>>12076746
Schumpeter really is one of the greats, you only need to read him once to understand how broken modern finance is
it's also a damn shame that Keynes got a school of thought to his name and Schumpeter didn't

>>12076853
Just read the past 8 years of bears

They probably expect more huge drops lel and somehow think this will be california housing crisis over again.

*still tipsy from earlier*
Hey there Bull o' buddy, don't you think that's enough now? I've got cubs to feed you know.

>>12076818
>i don't expect full communism in the next ten years, though it would be nice

why do commies think that communism is a good idea when it have destroyed the economy of every single country that has ever dabbled in it? the only way to think communism is good is to ignore actual reality...and that would just be retarded

>>12076859
yes, index funds are literally destroying society

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-08-24/are-index-funds-communist

>>12076859
yes, also because we lack the cognitive ability to discern as a species

If you bumped human IQ up enough it wouldn't happen. Also Algos are terrible at picking individual stocks in terms of what they actually do.

So the IQ at work in picking individual stocks is terrible.

>>12076873
real communism has never been tried because its literally impossible to implement, no one can even set it up

>>12076874
by the way this post is a joke and like most journalism the article disagrees with the headline, but the article is still a worthwhile read

>>12076874
In the future, index funds may only be allowed to be less than 30% of a man's portfolio. Even Bogle knows they might be too good.

>>12076859
it's mostly the arb guys, but im sure index funds have some imact as they're 17% of the total market

>>12076873
It's not a real view. It's a cloak he wears to be different because he can't stand that he's not special.

Imagine being raised since you are 0 by wealthy white parents who doted on you and told you how special you are 24/7. Yet they already have all wealth needed so they search for something else since that didn't make them "happy enough". Even though they will keep the wealth via trust fund and other hand me downs quite happily.

It's just a normal trend. Totally expected. Mainly because he doesn't understand 1. He was spoiled. 2. He would never give up his own wealth. 3. While all the time fighting against the idea of people having wealth

His own existence is one of pitiful hypocritical thinking this is why they love irony. If they become 100% ironic their shitty mind can ignore all the hypocrite behavior since it's them fleetingly living in an awful capitalistic system with no meaning..

At some point he will have kids and mostly drop the behavior don't worry

WE HIT THE BOTTOM PUMP IT

@SPY $263.88 the upward momentum will stop and selling will commence again.

>>12076874
thi sis a stupid article because companies die and rise through mcap rankings all the time

make it go UP

>>12076907
not all people want communism for the same reasons, your post is overgeneralising a bit too much
did you share your gf with a communist during college or something?

Burger weed pretty bullish today. All three of my south o' the border stocks doing fab today; MPX, Curaleaf, and Cresco Labs. Stopped out of TerrAscend this morning as it failed to rally off nominal support break. Dipped below, rebounded a bit, dipped back below again = i'm out.

Gingerly stuck a pinky toe in to Canopy Growth just now. It's in a doji at the tip of my meme triangle. Low risk trade for this, stop loss is set so break below lower trend is an instant stop out for nominal loss. I'll average up if it goes bullish.

>>12076794
>>12076800
Here's a piece on CLO's and small banks
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-20/cdo-revival-led-by-hedge-funds-pinning-hopes-on-smallest-banks

As for the rest, half of it's based on my conversations with people who work in banking regulation, half of it is my study of the falling rate of profit and it's effects on globalization, which I got from Fred Mosley's work like "the rate of profit in the Post-War US", examining congressional testimony from the period of financial deregulation, and looking at how the global FDI environment helped countries with strong industrial policy like china, so I guess that'd be world bank data.

>>12076907
On a tangent the use of big words is mostly an ego thing. Again most of his mind is used to ignore his own hypocritism. Say that somehow his liberal arts degree is better for society than a researcher trying to cure something or an engineer actually working on something productive.

It's a sad state of existence and only the fantasy of communism keeps it all together. He is too stupid and unoriginal to come up with something himself so gloms on to a shit idea like communism and comes up with some tweaks (that would still result in hell on earth) to say he has some fantastical system that would make everything better.

It's a sign of relatively mediocre mind and low IQ.

is jew man gonna raise interest rates more or not??

>>12076936
capitalist chads don't share girls, they bang them for a greater purpose

communist cucks share girlfriends with minorities because of their white guilt

power hour will officially confirm the spy double bottom

>>12076947
Thoughts on ACRZF?

Also why didnt you buy Canopy at $28?

>>12076853
Perma bears are pessimistic fuddy duddies and 100% no fun allowed.

Quarterly reminder to SHUT UP AND BUY IT NYAAAAAAAAAAA

Guys, i have an irrational fear that this neg leg down is going to be even harder than anything we've seen since FEB. You've all been warned...

>>12076873
>not filtering trips
shiggy diggy. If you want to know why communism will fail simply ask a communist what their role or position will be after the revolution. They all think they'll be some party bureaucrat rather than the poor fuck that has to toil in the fields or the factories. They use the "real communism has never been tried" argument as a measure to deflect any criticism of there oh so perfect ideology. Communism is not obtainable nor desired for anyone especially not the working class so I wouldn't worry about it ever coming to power.

>>12076999
check, but wrong

>>12076971
TSLA is going to smoke up shorts soon

>>12076960
Akshually sometimes using big words makes thing easier to explain, or the person is used to that vocabulary for work or school and it is easier for them to express themselves.
I didn't read any of what you guys are talking about, but I just read your first sentence and I disagree sir >:(

>>12076984
>capitalist chads
he doesn't sound like a chad, that's what I'm saying

>>12076984
>bang them for a greater purpose
To be in peak form when they meet their wife.

is this guy fuckin retarded???
am I fucking retarded?!?

why do i read this crap

>>12077025
He says what they want him to say.

>>12076850
I'm Mestizo, anon, and I'm not trying to be any different. I'm just trying to look out for number 1.

>>12076873
Historically, "communism" did actually industrialize many countries. Economically, the reintroduction of capitalism to the communist bloc did more damage than Stalin, even if his human cost was larger. Soviet economic growth was quite high in the 30s, even despite the famines. But, we should also keep in mind these countries were originally semi-feudal backwaters, they were trying to emulate capitalism's development, and it's no wonder that socialism wouldn't be as good at that as capitalism. What I am interested is the future of capitalism's development.

Taylor riggs has such pretty eyes

>>12076999
at this point i really dont even fucking care, either it goes up or it can fuck right off.

>>12077025
Cheapies confirmed, rate kike or not cheapies confirmed.

is there anything like /biz/s big drys adventure this upcoming christmas season where i can make money off a simple pebble, or are quick rich schemes over. I feel like throwing over 200 simple bucks in but i dont want to throw in and get nothing.

what a lovely day today was

Alright, time to cash out

>>12077033
stocks rose for 100 years on strong ameriga

stocks rose for the next 100 years

ameriga strong

eternal bullrun

>>12077014
Faggot

From Utopian One-worldism to Geopolitical Intergovernmentalism

The reason 99% of big words are used in intellectual circles is ego and to disguise boring thoughts. It's just a manipulation trick to hide that the points are rather stupid. By using a big word they can hide meaning behind vagueness so the reader can insert a complex meaning.

It has almost nothing to do with expressing something and more to do with a hack to hide meaningless statements.

If you didn't use big words the study and field would look stupid to everyone else. By using big words you can impress outsiders and hide the fact entire swathes of social sciences and other studies are in fact childish.

>>12076995
Acreage could be good. They have a lot of licenses in several states. Not too many dispensaries actually open yet, which is why i'm a little hesitant. Also they trade in USD which means i take a hit on forex if i want to buy them.

I didn't buy Canopy at the low pivot because i didn't have free cash at the time.

>>12077063
when will we know?

>>12077033
Where's the part about the people who preached the Golden Bull Run?

>>12077071
haha I ain't reading that shit you keyboard warrior

>>12077024
>>12076984
Am i correct?

>>12077071
is that how orange man supporters defend his lack of vocabulary? lmao

Buffet buying back hes $1 Billion of hes own stock

the bottom is here friends we made it bullrun NOW

>>12077025
He's exactly right. I agree.

>>12077067
anyone? Anything quick that gains lotsa money and a quick pull out.

Lets take a field based on evidence, science, and that is in extremely high demand.


Our goal is to train a policy for autonomous driving via imitation learning that is robust enough to drive a real vehicle. We find that standard behavior cloning is insufficient for handling complex driving scenarios, even when we leverage a perception system for preprocessing the input and a controller for executing the output on the car: 30 million examples are still not enough. We propose exposing the learner to synthesized data in the form of perturbations to the expert's driving, which creates interesting situations such as collisions and/or going off the road. Rather than purely imitating all data, we augment the imitation loss with additional losses that penalize undesirable events and encourage progress -- the perturbations then provide an important signal for these losses and lead to robustness of the learned model. We show that the ChauffeurNet model can handle complex situations in simulation, and present ablation experiments that emphasize the importance of each of our proposed changes and show that the model is responding to the appropriate causal factors. Finally, we demonstrate the model driving a car in the real world.

Versus social science

In this article I summarize some main points from a larger study which I am doing on theoretical conceptualization of the formal/equal patriarchy of today. Although I see myself as a socialist feminist, applying historical materialist method to feminist questions, I am critical of contemporary socialist feminist theory for not taking the issues raised by radical feminists seriously enough; for clinging too closely to the specific Marxian problematique of political economy and class; and for not stating the basic problem as one of power transactions in the relationship between women and men as socio-sexual beings.

>>12077103
When the fed talks on dec 18-19, hope for a big move and buy high risk options

>>12077100
seems to me that stocks will take a hit if the fed decides to continue with the rate hikes as well tho??

>>12077103
accumulate TQQQ

>>12076392

>>12077107
You will see that "big wordism" is used to mask a childish field and thoughts. Basically just having random "Feelings" about a subject but writing it in big words is sufficient to trick or at least allow a charade field to go on.

Whereas actual fields only use the DSL when necessary and for their actual audience. The use of vague big wordism in charade fields is to hide meaning and to leave things up to interpretation due to lack of substance.

>>12077096

t. NPC

>>12077096
We are going to have a space force and we will build a big dome to keep the aliens out and the aliens are going to pay for it!

>>12077115
>>12077132
what can i make a shitload of cash off like 240 bucks. Thats some spare cash i have right now.

why do interest rates from the fed affect equities

that rate is what banks are able to loan money from the gov at right? so then banks have to loan money to companies and individuals at that rate+more?

>>12077164
I'll manage your $240 for a $12 fee

>>12077096
Imagine being this retarded. No wonder your side is full of shitskins and women.

>>12077138
a large vocabulary allows thought-forms to have alacrity

>>12077164
options are your best bet. I made $100 to $1000 once. Just gotta wait for the right oppurtunity

>>12077164
options or highly leveraged futures

>>12077174
when you have big dick money 3% "risk-free" bonds might be good enough instead of taking on higher risks in the stock market. of course there are inflation risks, but when you get to a certain level you start caring about wealth preservation vs. wealth growtrh

>>12077179
imagine not being able to take a joke

>>12077164
horse racing

>>12077174
the cost of borrowing money

When you borrow money at a low enough rate, say 2% APR, you could make a lot of money before your interest payments are due. Imagine if I loaned you $100,000 and only expected $102,000 back at the end of the year. You keep all the rest of your spoils

>>12077188
>>12077182
any good ones you have in mind? Please.

>>12077180
not really, not if the vocabulary is vague ideas that are non-unique from other words in your vocabulary.

Most of the social science vocab is non-unique or actually insane concepts like "intersectionalism" or vague undefined notions like patriarchy.

>>12077209
You could have literally bought spy puts on market open or spy calls near the bottom and you probs would be at least double your moneys right now

>>12077174
two reasons one it costs more to get a loan so people take out less loans that they'd use to buy stocks on leverage or finance investments and business opportunities that can grow the economy
two why buy stocks and get a risky 7% yearly return when you can buy bonds and get 7% risk free?

>>12077118
I think the most likely scenario in both cases will be the first move gets it wrong and then strong in the other direction. So if they raise rates, there may be that initial selloff, but the fed is telling the market that everything is strong enough to absorb a slight rate increase and buyers would step in. I don't think the market is heavily positioned enough on one side for a straight move in one direction. The other factor is there is a press conference, so statements from that may carry more weight this time than the actual hike or not.

>>12077228
i think youre giving alot of credit to NPC boomer investors, who are mostly reactionary

>>12077209
If QQQ gains like 3% + ATH hour today open up with a call tommrow, otherwise u might want to place a put for a dead cat.

>>12077209
just wait for >>12077228 to happen and buy a shitload of TQQQ as soon as it starts going DOWN

>>12077227
because golden bull is about to start and all the single digit % numbers are going to look retarded

Just go into tech and forget about your investments for 10 years

>>12076960
>>12076907
Am I using big words? I'm not trying to.

I've spoken about my class status in other threads, but basically I'm not poor nor very well off. That I have any money to invest at all right now is only a function of being lucky enough to avoid student loans.

>>12077107
Also, this is a pretty dumb strawman, there is good social science work being done, in both economics, psychology and political theory. I've been doing study in civil military relationships this past summer and there's some very good literature written on that, including empirical and case studies.

>>12077228
Hey you seem to know about the fed meeting and stuff. I tried to half ass search about it and just know it takes place Dec 18-19.
I don't even know what time it starts and in what time zone. What exactly is the full schedule of this meeting and when is the final decision going to be announced?
I am hoping to trade volatility during this meeting if it comes.

>>12077222
you sound like a pseud, social sciences and other fields of study that have been appropriated by left-wing ideology is used purely for abstracting political ideas. all of this is made to appear justified by fully loaded fart pilled statements like "Lets take a field based on evidence, science, and that is in extremely high demand." which you are also guilty of

>>12076917

green day boys :)

>>12077267
subscribe to a news wire like reuters you tard

>>12077267
uncle powel takes the mic at 2pm on next wednesday and the market will drop continuously until he puts it down.

>>12077293
>7 shares in TQQQ
Youll make it but heck itll be slow.

>>12077228
The market is betting rates will go down in the mid to long term, hence the verge on inversion. If the fed keeps raising rates, it'll probably tell the market this will only happen due to a recession, so it will probably go down hard as a result.

>>12077267
The actual announcement is 2pm EST 12/18. The press conference is 2:30pm. You can usually find a youtuve live meeting link that day. Probably posted here. And if you're trading during this time, you want to be watching the conference.

>>12077293
GREEN
GOLDEN BULL

>>12077222
your really missing out, vocabulary isn't something that confines, its something that creates
the word is sacred, there is an ideaspace that can only be unlocked with higher tiered thoughts that literally require "big words" to fully define

>>12077302
im scared of big crash idk

>>12077307
Reuters usually streams it as well.

>>12077315
there was a big crash, You missed it lol TQQQ was at 73$

>>12077315
have you seen how much stake takes when you withdraw?

>>12077307
maybe it will tank the market because my mutual fund company distributes dividends and capital gains on december 20 and 21 (which are auto reinvested). gib me cheapies pls

>>12077327
na i mean like a bigger crash from fuckin powell i just cant eat more risk than i already have

>>12077330
no I assume its the same as when you put cash in?

I don't know if there is a link in the copy paste, but these sites both list extensive upcoming events:
https://www.forexfactory.com/
https://www.fxstreet.com/economic-calendar

>>12077342
You are gonna miss out on Money if you think like that, people been saying the big ones coming since the begining of the market

>>12077330
I just checked and its about 11 dollers (AUD) per 1000USD. pretty good seemings the non commision trading thing they got going

Why is my SQQQ red.

Reeeee

>>12077366
leave me alone I have a less strong stomach than you stop bullying me you fucking bully

>>12077375
fucking bear die

Who else made $$ on these retarded wanna be bears today?

I am unironically thinking of learning Chinese

>>12077400
For what purpose anon? Are you looking for a job?

>>12077366
what would you sell in my portfolio to buy more TQQQ? I have no more spare money to commit right now

making new ...

the comeback is here!

The market needs to stop swinging intraday. I just want to buy/sell at the start and end of the day.

>>12077431
>>12077431
>>12077431

NEW

>>12077431
>>12077431
>>12077431

>>12077406
They seem to be the future. They are huge in new technology. And also look at stuff like how they are building high speed trains all across their country to make transportation fast, easy, and cheap while we burgers have to depend on cars with all of our traffic, slower speeds, more accidents, higher costs, and space take up of roads. I honestly think they are the future.

>>12077450
Well China will almost certainly be the largest economy for quite some time in the future, so it couldn't hurt. Knowing foreign languages is always a good skill to have, I'm unfortunately not very good good with the kind of learning involved, but good luck! I think you should go for it!

>>12077450
i would invest in chinese auto industry, the one here has a huge debt bubble too