/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12005976
He is a psychopath who doesn't care about other people at all and is only interested in himself.
Watched some RSD back then, got interested in game and read "The Game". Later I realized, that RSDTyler is the very psychopath Tyler Durden from the book.

>>12005976
>implying that he can even compete once i have $15 mill +

thats the great thing about makingit. once you makeit you dont have to play these retarded poorfag games

>>12005976
smart.

>>12006045
Enjoy being a rich betabux-er

>>12006222
its not betabux if you have enough money to not care about it.

>>12006233
Sure it isn't. Enjoy your misery

>>12005976
Guys like this compensate for the fact they are talentless dickheads with the ego boost of picking up women for casual sex. There's a reason they can't maintain relationships.
Glad I'm married and no longer go out to bars unless I'm with the wife. Playing these stupid games is such a waste of time.

>>12005976
an absolute fucking legend

Seems reasonable in what he says. Of course it's a niece ideology, but it hardly ever seems wrong with a capital W. He's also aware that his more mystic stuff is wacky.

>>12006380
once you've gotten laid you've accomplished your biological goal in life... maintaining relationships is meaningless. monogamy is just a social construct deal made between betas and alphas to ensure civilization exists

>>12006380
He is in a committed relationship with a woman. He has two children with her. The woman is ok with him fucking other women and doesn't need the stamp of the government to keep her commitment to him.

>>12006649
>t. Nigger

>>12006276
if you have to get women by pretending to be someone else and putting on a constant facade, you are the one living in misery fren.

>>12006674
Yeah dude just b yourself

>>12006044
Kek this, look at some pics of him during that time, he looks like the most virgin beta fag ever. Most of them did though desu.
I think Tyler's newer ideas and videos have some useful information though, like 1 or 2 years ago it was much more about finding to oneself than about upping your lay numbers. The latest video I have seen features quite a lot of that "infield" clickbait clips tho, so maybe he didn't make as much money with that spiritual attitude lol

>>12006698
if you have enough money, you can" just b urself" and still get the same amount of pussy. obviously not if you are poor tho.

just think for a moment - how did you go by being yourself? are you satisfied with your results by being yourself? no? THEN CHANGE YOURSELF

>>12005976
I've actually known Owen for several years, and he definitely means everything he says and has built a number of businesses that are sound. Philosophically, as far as attracting women, he's generally correct and gives good advice. As far as someone to model unconditionally? No, but you shouldn't do that with anyone.

RSD is great for its purpose, gives gold tier advice in a sea of shit advice. It's a step along the way, and not a place to get caught forever.

>neet turned 'plaiboi' who banged 120ish girls from his boy's advices

>>12006044
lol, I love how you did the journey completely ass backwards, and confused your stupid ass into thinking Tyler is the wrong one out of that scene. He's the only one who came out with a good head on his shoulders, since that book FORCED everyone to either get more creative with their weeb bullshit, or actual develop natural game.

It's like you didn't try to understand what was going on and just reacted like a bitch.

>>12006649
Whole society is a social construct. Wtf is your point?
>Let's go back to the stone age
Meanwhile he is posting on an anonymous mongolian horse trading card board

>>12006380
>glad im shackled to a woman

He is poor lel

>>12006920
It’s hard to know what society is like when you never leave your basement

>>12006927
desu I think going through a self-discovery/dating journal is a good thing for any closeted neet, and will give you tremendous value and insight into women, yourself, and social dynamics in general. At the end of your journey, getting married or having a LTR comes from a completely different paradigm - and you'll have much more enjoyable relationships.

>>12005976
From a business perspective, this guy is absolutely a Machiavellian snake. His strategy is without a doubt orbiting around min/maxing his company's profits and the revenue brought in from his coaches.

Now for the practice: RSD as a whole is a very effective company. Tyler is meh and alright at best, but his coaches are FUCKING GODS at slaying chicks. Julien being the biggest monster and Max being a very close second in terms of raw capabilities, as well as training men how to improve at game. You can get a lot of value from their free YouTube content, but the content is evidently focused on bottle necking you towards their paid programs and bootcamps. I pirated their programs because they're fucking 800$ each and they're honestly GOAT. They with out a doubt have transformed my behavior and results. When I make it with wealth one day I'll be sure to pay back what I borrowed from them.

>>12007049
>confirmed for based

Honestly though, Max and Owen are both gross little short boys, and should give a lot of the genetically inferior autists someone to look up to while they try to not dribble out of their mouths while conversing with wamen.

Julien is a boss motherfucker, but also clinically insane. Buyer beware, his methods and results are insane and he will fuck you up mentally for a good long while.

>>12006380
A man should know how to fuck tons of women before locking himself in dude. You get to actually learn the various types of women through experience and get better at screening which are desirable for a LTR. Good job if you have a good woman, but you were simply pissing in the wind and rolling dice if you knew nothing about women before you got married

These days my Newbie Guide would be this:

– Mystery Method. I prefer the seminar where he teaches it over the PDF eBook of it because I like Mystery’s passion for what he’s teaching, all the vids were on YouTube at some point but now there’s just scraps, here’s one of them to get you started:

https://youtu.be/TcO5ULfyKDM

I believe that’s from the Mystery Method 5 DVD set which you should be able to torrent easy.

Magic Bullets is an eBook that’s a more brief streamlined explanation of MM if you’re tight for time

– “The Tyler Digest”, google it and read it all

– watch Liam Mcrae’s Rapid Escalation video on YouTube

– watch Richard LaRuina Formula For Night Game on YouTube (specifically 27:00 to 50:00)

– RSDJulien’s SHIFT (internal game/mindsets/beliefs about women, yourself and getting this area handled, torrent it)

– and RSDJulien’s PIMP (external game aka actual technical shit to execute infield, torrent it)

– and if you just want overall social skills building rapport/comfort with people in general (which you can apply with girls or just socializing with everyone you meet and becoming that guy that people immediately feel like they’ve known for years) then check out the Juggler Method PDF

– and at some point give Practical Female Psychology a read, and the free PDF over at Manhood 101 as well, they cover just general over-arching male/female psychology stuff that you’ll want to know for life in general, VS just getting your dick wet ASAP lol

>>12007126
As someone who's read/watched all these, literally, you can skip most of these.

Both Julien's programs are actual gold, and are revised and updated methods/mindsets that combine most of these dudes into coherent advice.

Juggler, Mystery, Style - all that crap is outdated nonsense. There's like 4-5 mechanical tips that you can pull, but you'll literally move backwards from naturalization if you get bogged down in that bullshit. Juggler's book has interesting methods on how to get noticed in a club, but Julien's shit just overrides the usefulness by 10x easy.

If you need anything else, read Paul Janka like a grown up.

>>12006980
>MOMMY LOOK. I posted again

>>12007150
Funny you say that. I read 20 pages of Paul's Attraction formula book last night. It's gold too.
Also, you're wrong. Juggler method give you the formula to keep conversations going and how to build comfort and report -- invaluable to me.

Maybe you should stick to Tucker Max?

>>12007072
Very redpilled my friend.

Yeah Max is a geeky looking short guy with a self confessed small penis, nobody has an excuse to be a failure with guys like him and Owen walking around.

And yes, Julien as a maximum level monster. A literal walking example of the "dark triad". I remember one of the earliest videos I've seen of him was some 10/10 blonde in a bar flirting with him super interested, and HE rejected HER playfully when she leaned into kiss him. I've never been that midfucked in my life. That woman must have been completely drenched, and that's when I got redpilled that your behavior has tangible effects on seduction, and that the LOOKS/MONEY/STATUS outlook is heavily flawed. But I'm sure his outlook will turn you into a complete psycho in the long run as you said lmfao

>>12007170
>tucker max

lol ew, what am I a girl in 2008 trying to be edgy?

I remember reading Juggler's book, but I mostly recall my friends turning it into a meme because of his name. I do like the dude though, he's got some good technical skills. If the conversation stuff helps, I'm all for it. Tbh Julien in Pimp or Shift has some good conversation stuff that's literally all you need, but I understand drawing from all sources.

>DON'T EVER TALK TO ME OR MY SON TUCKER EVER AGAIN

>>12007198
I appreciate you agreeing on Julien's products. They are the current pinnacle of game -- invaluable and when I make more money I'll take a boot camp out of respect for all they've taught me and give back something for all I've consumed. Drawing from all sources is important because just how people resonated hard with Tucker Max -- his books were absolutely fucking-ridiculously-useless.

>25k link holder here

>>12007238
Interesting how we biztards are alike. I've watched all of Juliens shit and yeah. I'ts that good. Also 25k link holder

>>12007126
>Mystery
Man hearing people talk of the Mystery method gives me some nostalgia. I felt like such a boss having all these "secret" lines nobody heard of. It actually really got me out of my shell and worked for the most part. It's obviously very outdated material, but much the core concepts actually survived. Many modern PUAs actually indirectly use ACS (attraction, comfort, seduction) model without even realizing it, while simultaneously shitting on Mystery.

>RSD Julien
Based and redpilled.

>LaRuina
Also based, a lot of people didn't take him seriously because of how good looking he is unfortunately.

>Liam Mcrae
These "natural lifestyles" guys are very good at inner game and confidence building with their material. I don't like some of the feminist apologism and new-agey spiritual stuff they talk about, but overall a very good company. Their content is extremely genuine and believable, as they'll approach hot ass women in the middle of a 3 hour video lmao.

All around good tastes FREN

>>12007462
Dude have you seen Karisma King on youtube? Small channel but a legit PUA

It's the same as any person, doesn't matter how much of a snake they are you can learn from them. I followed RSD for a few years but moved on after getting that part of my life back on track as well as just not having time for this shit anymore. Be aware that Tyler in particular is one of those disinformation artists - most of what he says is true but he likes to sprinkle a bit of bullshit here and there. Not when it comes to women, that topic is more or less his specialty and he pretty much a master in it, however, do not under any circumstance follow his advice on spirituality, politics and history. He brainwashes his listeners, his own company and ex-colleagues admit they are cultish, and he lives in "secrecy" in holl*wood. Not going to go into that, but he is very much keen on denying the state of the world, secret societies, etc, even though he is VERY knowledgeable and well read in occult books (most likely part of them unironically at this point due to the people that he knows).
Tldr - if you need help with women his advice works (rsd jeffy is better for me personally), everything else take it with a massive grain of salt.

>>12007598
OMG HOW DIDN'T WE BRING UP JEFFY AT ALL DURING THIS THREAD????

CUT THE SHIT, TIME TO FUCK

>literally got in trouble in college for coming home drunk screaming this in our dorm hall

>>12005976
It's mostly a scam.

If there is any 'secret' to chatting up women, it's that there is no 'secret'.

Interacting with women is just a subset of general social interaction and should be seen as such. It's easy to wish it wasn't, that it's a different game entirely and this game has cheat codes. Sadly, this isn't really the case.

There is no real 'shortcut'. The problem with following 'simple tricks' like you see in those kind of pickup videos is that you are basically acting like a trained dog with no real understanding of why you're doing what you're doing (if you did, you wouldn't be doing it).

>start from scratch, disregard what you think you know
>interact socially with as many people as possible
>gradually put yourself out of your comfort zone - this could start with just smalltalk to coworkers to organising or presenting to a small group and working up
>eat the pain of rejection and use it as a data point to improve
>not all the data points will make sense until months, sometimes years later when you have enough
>think critically and be honest with yourself. comforting lies often block unpleasant truths you need to improve

If you try to take a shortcut and you have no idea what you're doing, you will probably just end up lost.

Oh and this way means you also improve on a lot of other areas too like your professional life.

Also there is more to life than sticking it into girls' moist holes as much as possible. It does start to become mundane and routine, not to mention potentially bad for your health. As you get laid more reliably it's worth filtering for more interesting women.

As an somewhat introverted engineer, I prefer RSD Todd's more structural approach actually. Max's and Juliens approach don't work for me because maintaining that energy level is impossible for more than 30min for me lol. Still pulled a fair number of women, including threesomes directly from clubs.

>>12007462
>Many modern PUAs actually indirectly use ACS (attraction, comfort, seduction) model without even realizing it, while simultaneously shitting on Mystery.

Nail on the head my fren. MYSTER *IS* THE GOD FATHER OF ALL THIS

>>12007738
you're literally fucking retarded lmfao. detached from reality at its finest

kys

>>12007748
used to hate todd, now i love his analytic style

>>12007760
LOL I interned for Todd in 2012. The guy barely knows his ass from his elbow, and Tyler had to send the guy to Asia for near 2 years to get his game/confidence up. Honestly, when he rejoined Tyler, it was embarassing. He was barely getting laid, and a complete neet.

Now, he's still a neet, he can just talk the talk. Honestly, least favorite RSD guy in the bunch and a complete tool to boot.

>>12007867
fren, just like us, he's on a journey. Todd and Jeffy have THE BIGGEST rotating circle of hoes out of all of RSD. Todd spits good advice it's just in a monotone robot voice so it doesn't penetrate certain people -- it's why Julien used to always make fun of him in his videos at the beginning with a voice like Todd

BUT I am with you, I never liked him origionally and didn't give him a chance until recently. He has decent content but definitely not my go-to

>>12007637
I love that guy, his book Nine Ball was so much fun to read.
First page:
>Standing at the corner waiting for the light to change, I belched, loudly and unapologetically. The bum, standing in my immediate vicinity, took umbrage. Towering next to me, he barked, "Ey mayeng... don' be belchin' in mah face like dat!"
>"Shut the fuck up, bitch." My unthinking and immediate response.
>WHAM.
>When he hit me, I was actually surprised. I laughed and mocked him as I went for my brass knuckles. You think a homeless BITCH can hurt me?!"
>"Pull dat shit out and see what happen," he crowed, ... walking off quickly as a crowd began to form.
400 pages of this.

>>12007049
This summarizes everything perfectly. Tyler is a machiavellian fubdamentally beta and esteogenized fag but he's built a great business around the incel epidemic and recruiting real slayers.

>>12007760
Looks like I struck a nerve there. Good. Nice projection about reality.

"Mystery" is the guy who had to settle for a Russian nobody and couldn't even keep her around. Shouldn't he have been banging supermodels from Paris?

>metioning Todd
Jesus fucking Christ. If you're taking a guy like that seriously you deserve to get scammed. Be sure to ask to use girls bathrooms like a little bitch, it's the surest way to get pussy.

>>12007867
DESU Todd is actually a giant cunt who wanted to ride Owen's coattails, after initially rejecting the offer after the LA House shut down. He tried to be a poker player on his own, and failed horribly, then came to Owen/Tyler and begged to be back in RSD. That's why I got assigned to his bitch ass, and he got laid maybe 10-15 times in his first year instructing at RSD.

He's honestly a gross hack with a shit personality, and even more shit motives.

>>12007977
Btw if you think getting laid ONCE A MONTH AS A PICKUP INSTRUCTOR is a good thing, you're hopeless. He literally had to go to Asian for YEARS because he was so bad.

>>12007962
Yes, basically this.

He's always seemed like some kind of creep to me. Not to mention a balding faggit who appears to be encouraging a very vacuous lifestyle with no obvious goal in the end. That golden guy would probably say that it wasn't glorious.

Hardly based, and certainly not partaking of the red man's pill.

I've seen some of his videos and I think his priorities in life are fucked up. I don't think rearranging your life for purpose of fucking bar whores is a truly fulfilling existence.

>>12009077
You are clearly looking for excuses to dislike him. Balding? lel
He doesn't sell you a way of life. He sells a skillset you can utilize however you want bitchboy. Not his problem that you need your life goals be given to you by someone else.

>>12009121
>You are clearly looking for excuses to dislike him. Balding? lel
I know, but ffs the man is an annoyance 8]

>>12009077
for whatever reason, a lot of perfectly normal high functioning men have a great deal of difficulty getting over that first bump in the road when it comes to women.
tyler and his ilk help those other guys get over that bump.
and once youre over it, life becomes a whole lot easier, for both the men themselves and the society in which they function.
but yes, the message they spread is nihilistic and nietzchean in all the worst ways- cue butt hurt nietzchean autistic screeching.
but they provide a fairly worthwhile fucntion for a lot of people imo

>>12005976
i can tell hes a manlet just from the thumbnail

>>12005976
HAHAHAHA.
Have you seen the video of him talking about his cuckold fetish? This ginger faggot is the biggest cuck I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWuREjuLAE

>>12009276
>for whatever reason, a lot of perfectly normal high functioning men have a great deal of difficulty getting over that first bump in the road when it comes to women.
I guess it's just how disingenuous it all seems. Or rather, is by design.

So they can pipe low-value sloots they themselves see as low-value... is that really worthwhile? Oidunnolol

>>12009281
>his cuckold fetish
Now while I don't necessarily want to criticize someone's fetishes... it's hardly surprising somehow either ¬_¬

>>12009281
Example of a comment from that vid:
>Lol, this guy is a lap dog.
>His girlfriend probably thinks of him as a doormat that pays the bills.
>I wonder if he majored in gender studies.
>Which uni did he goto to get this level of brain washed?

I do swear he comes off as some kind of nihilist faggit trying to justify his own faggotry on some level.

I mean, he basically makes a strong argument for not getting involved with these sorts of women at all (though of course, to justify his own positions, all women must be like the most extreme sloots from his stories because then you'd have to ironically be some sort of gay to disagree with him) then promotes his ideology/lifestyle of getting mixed up with them anyway. Coming off as... yeah, almost like some kind of cuck fetish.

Not glorious at all. Ghey and blackpilled.

>>12009406
I mean his philosophy, like his game, is basically a gaslighting technique.

Man, those faggots are still at it? I thought the PUA shit died alongside the aughts. The Game was pretty interesting, but c'mon, aren't those guys in their 40's now?

>>12009513
It's very much alive, but took a "natural" approach. The companies that are alive all teach principles rather than specific canned lines, well, for the most part. Emulating the lines of other men are good "training wheels" but useless the moment you become intermediate at game.

>>12007867
Damn, I was wondering what happened with that whole Todd fiasco, never looked too much into it. Everyone in comments were saying they went full 1984 on his ass for a while but I imagine there was some sort of major falling out.

>>12007738

I agree with you, but for some guys, the only way they can really push themselves socially is to take queues from other people - whether that be their father, friends, or random YouTubers.

Also I think it's worth noting that it's entirely possible to "forget" how to act or interact with women/men. Some guys are naturally charismatic and go their whole lives without experiencing loneliness, but for someone like me who was always surrounded by friends/people up until I graduated from undergrad, and then all of a sudden was thrusted into lonely city life, I could always use a primer or reminder about how to act, interact, or talk to other people. Not saying PUA is the best way to learn/relearn this stuff, but I think they can offer useful information for sure.

>>12007738
>Interacting with women is just a subset of general social interaction and should be seen as such.
>There's no difference in talking to women than how you'd talk to a guy bro trust me
>Just bee yourself xD don't worry about human psychology

You're a literal fucking meme here

Lol all of these "PUA" guys are fucking beta males. Everything they do is forced and they think because it works on some fat random heffer that they're """chads""", lmao.

Every single one of them is retarded. The guy in OP in particular but mainly ones like "RooshV", (who is a beta male who calls others beta males), and all the rest of them.

They all come off robotic and everything is forced and just fucking embarrassing
No doubt guy in OP has more success now because he's probably seeing money from his business, but on raw game? He's a fucking bum. I've literally met actual fucking homeless people who can pull more women, and higher quality women than this clown.

>Dude activate the neg bro you gotta actiave the neg swtich pump and dump go to method #60 frame up bro stand contraposto and stare her down raise armpit and release test stench on target

I've literally fucked the birds of men like this unironically. If you need a "lesson" in how to pick up women, or you need a "redpill" you're a beta male to use their own terminology and nothing will change that

Fuckoff

>>12010447
confirmed for autistic virgin

kys

>>12010447
I can smell the curry you're emitting from here you dirty disgusting dweeb. I bet you never had the ballsack to walk up to a single woman in your life.

Your entire outlook is from literal self confessed incels online. Actually neck yourself

>>12007760
You're the one detached from reality you pathetic little manchild

>>12010600
>>12010764
triggered "pua" experts lol woah don't "mog" me

>>12010803
nice try non-fren

>>12010807
u sure do know a lot of terminology for being a h8ter lmfao. kys

>>12010863
yeah because i've looked at what they're selling lmao hot air

>>12010764
he's correct, phaggot

PUA is beta male bait scam shit

if you don't realize this, sorry: you're a beta bitch

>>12005976
I took a boot camp with Tyler and will confirm his skills are legit. He walked right up to a girl without speaking and started dancing with her and she lost her shit giggling and acting like she was drunk. Her boyfriend was sitting there watching the whole thing happen and one of the chodes on the program tried talking within because he was most likely autistic

>>12005976
Reminds me of when I’m buzzed or on a phenibut high and unhinged in a club and suddenly get successful at picking up girls because I can’t comprehend the consequences like when I’m sober. That’s why oftentimes some dangerous losers are so successful with women, because they have nothing to lose.

>>12005976
Also

TOM TORERO YOU DUMB FUCKS. His book “Street Hustle” is the best written book on game I’ve ever read. It has incredibly well done illustrations as a bonus

>>12006894
This desu. Most people on 4chan hate him because he is proof that looks don't matter as much as people say.

Youre all fucking bluepilled.
Face height frame
Money
Status
>b-but i know this ugly guy
fuck off

>>12010975
He hired actresses to fake his infield videos you dumb fuck.

>>12010975
tom stages shit

>>12011207
money doesn't make women want to fuck you. being as physically and mentally attractive is all that matters if you want to get laid.

>>12011299
thats not true there have been psychology experiments where the same picture of a 5/10 get rated higher when they show in the picture he makes 100k a year

>>12011299
lmao whoever made that shit... just no words

>>12011274
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little beta? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Mystery's PUA seminars, and I’ve been involved in numerous panty raids on sororities, and I have fucked over 300 confirmed HB10s. I am trained in gorilla intercourse and I’m the top negger in the entire PUA community. You are nothing to me but just another beta. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, beta. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of PUAs across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can fuck your 4/10 girlfriend in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unprotected sex, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Redpill community and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

PUA has some good points, but their ideology encourages you to act in dysfunctional and sociopathic ways, like literally doing shit with girls just for the sake of "reference experience." Literally acting like you're interested in a girl just so you can get practice. I don't know if this is actually helpful, or if it just makes you better at pretending like you're interested.

Are RSD shills going to be a thing now? Is biz the only place people can afford the 800 dollar program?

>>12009352
Back to /r/eddit bitch

>>12006736

The funniest thing about his “infield” videos is that he’s never actually picking up women. He’s just talking to them or maybe even making them laugh. Then he’ll make some bullshit excuse like “yeah, I totally could have pulled her if I wanted to.”

Meanwhile, autistic incels watch that shit and are amazed. “OMG he just talked to a girl and she didn’t scream! Take my $10k for a boot camp and make me a Chad like that, RSD!”

PUA is unironically a great ideology when it comes to mindsets and human interaction. RSD on the other hand comes off as a major scumbag scam that preys on low self esteem dudes with more money than brains. Any PUA who "teaches" by getting women in places that are touristy such as Vegas at night are shady at best. A total retard can get laid in those places, you aren't actually learning anything. They're just charging you some asinine price for it. If you want to learn game, daygame is a more honest test.

>>12005976
man the chicks he is talking to are absolutely trashed. would be easy af to pick up

>>12011344
>be you
>chatting with grill
>not interested because you're a 5/10
>let her know you make 100k a year
>she now interested
congrats you found a gold digger

>>12012153
dope cyber neg bro xD

it's good information for self development and socializing in general but I don't like the whole shotgun numbers game approach.

They unironically advise you to go out like 2-5 nights a week to up your game. Like yea, if you go out and hit on girls 5 nights a week then you'll be good at it, but what's the end game? Shouldn't we be looking for a compatible life partner rather than spending all of our energy and human potential competing for used up bar sluts?

ok this only matters for attracting mindless bar whores and low iq pigs. Just being confident and nice is enough without being a fake faggot

>>12011261
>>12011274

Just look at the book for 10 seconds and thank me later

Only a matter of time until one of these drunken sluts accuses him of sexual assault

>>12012420

hes literally been going out every night for like 15 years dude

there was a big media shitstorm about RSD Julien but they got over it

>>12012221
From what I've watched the idea is that when guys typically chose their long term partners it isn't from a position if choosing from many woman, it's usually choosing from just a few and then compromising and post-rationalising why they are good for them.
If you have the ability to meet many woman, you can now choose from a bigger pool and find one that is more suited towards you.

>>12006894
How do you actually feel knowing you banged all those girls? Like did you actually feel happier or was it just thrill seeking?

>>12012420
He literally makes them beg for sex. He talks about it all the time. The amount of retards in this thread that have no idea what their talking about is making me worried.

>PUA is an ideology
it's a skillset you tards

>>12009280
This bitch is a HB 3/10 max. An easy bang for me. Simple case of Bait, Hook, Reel, Release then Hit her with the flipped positive Neg and slowly work my way in and oscillate into being AMOG (Alpha male of group), maximise chances of #Close by using the Compliance Test and slipping into the C&F routine (Cocky & Funny). Next slap her with a Bitch Shield while I analyse her BL and try to avoid falling into any traps her BBF (beta boyfriend) might fall into himself since I want to BMOG him while he's not there. If she gives me any trouble I'll pull out the Don Juan special Grand Master style and force EC (emotional connection) before pushing for the Fuck Close.

If she has AWD then I simply know she's JAW and ditch, she probably doesn't have Survival and Reproduction Value anyway but if it's an SDL (same day lay, for the layman) then I'd SUAL and Check the Buying Temperature and Buy at the spike for a quick turn around. Bang!

>>12011344
once again, money does not make women want to fuck you. it does make women want to settle down with you, aka be their provider. that's not a good thing if you want to get laid.

>>12014569
>that's not a good thing if you want to get laid.
That's not a good thing if you want women to like you at all. They'll tolerate you at most.

>>12006044

Game is a con to take incels money. It leads to scizophrenia. All the gurus including Mystery have since went insane.

Looking at the videos now, and they keep talking about losing your ego.
But what it looks like, what they really say is that you need to create your ego. Put yourself at the center of your actions, with minimalizing what other people need or want to the point that it allows you to achieve your goals.

It's similar with Buddhists. They seem to be incredibly self-centered people most of the time, yet they speak about losing your ego frequently.

>>12014639
Nice verifibly false projection there. Return to your Sky thread now.

>don't be shy

that's all you need

Instead of getting schizophrenia from PUA, giving them all your money and ritually murdering your parents why dont you just go to a whore?

>>12014683
You've chosen the former one assume and speak from experience.

>be me, the normal me
>never get laid
>be me, the drunk me that doesn't shut the fuck up
>get laid

I swear the secret for me is to just keep blabbing

He's a snake. He stole the secret sauce from Mystery and started his own company where he tells incels to spam approach without looking for indication of interest.

To those guys saying Owen is some kind of god...just look at the sub 6 women he picks up. You don't see him pick up anything 7 or higher. He hires good looking tall Chad's to be boot camp instructors.

Times have changed. Pua shit is much less effective thanks to smart phones and women have much more options than 10 years ago. This is why you see Owen and RSD recentluy start teaching self actualization and other hippie shit to compensate for how bad their sales are with actual pick up that the internet is saturated with. Instead of admitting it like Rooshv, Owen will just tell you "no bro, you can still get hot girls if you buy my DVDs and come to my boot camps and pay 3k".

Yes pua tactics (mystery method) works but is much less effective today thanks to women's options. Just download or buy Rooshv's latest book for $10 instead of paying thousands to soon-to-be bankrupt RSD nation.

Literally the only PUA worth reading is Roissy, particularly the 16 Commandments.

>>12014833
Gay bars don't count

>>12014985
Did you pull that out of your ass? He spoke of the exact reason for his shift to 'self-actualization' extensively. He, and others, had to shift and in the end thankful about that - the self-actualization is what the whole thing was supposed to be all about form the start.

>>12005976
Pretty cool guy. Alot to learn and he gave me necessary wisdom I couldn't get when I was younger. Now I moved on to different things.

>>12005976
Lmao you just have to read the buttblasted replies to see how biz is being pozzed by bluepilled redditors.

Most of the PUA thing is extravagant in its form but relies on very real evo psycho concepts.
Only people who get mad at it are either roasties, soÿmales idolising women and who are too afraid of accepting a harsh reality or incels who possess such shitty social skills that they can't even entertain a woman for 3 minutes without being creepy.

>>12006045
Assets don't compensate for lack of game and look, even the prostitute won't do their job well if you have no game.

>>12006674
>incapable of getting women being yourself

If this accurately describes someone, then yes, they absolutely should pretend to be someone else.

>>12012221
>They unironically advise you to go out like 2-5 nights a week to up your game. Like yea, if you go out and hit on girls 5 nights a week then you'll be good at it, but what's the end game? Shouldn't we be looking for a compatible life partner rather than spending all of our energy and human potential competing for used up bar sluts?

All women are bar sluts given the right conditions, even the puritan christian mother of 5.
The whole thing is about getting over the fear of rejection and adopting a mindset of abundance instead of aching over one girl like so many beta males are. I fucked girls I would never ever have a LTR with but they were precious to me in the way they served as a springboard to deal with much better women. There is literally not a single con to have experiences with women as a male.

>>12014683
This would be a logical decision if these guys only wanted sex. They want validation.

>>12007126
>Richard LaRuina Formula For Night Game
jesus fuck if this dude can get girls, i'm going to literally drown in them if i ever get good at this

>>12005976
Betas, incels, nolifes masturbating to porn must realize one thing: if this guys is a scammer, what are the owners of the porn websites you watch daily?
PUA might not be the best way to have hot and nice women, but what are the alternatives for autistic nerds?
I think for nerds who are behind a computer 95% of the time, PUA might be, along with online dating, which is shit by the way, the only way to meet and have women.
What are the alternatives, have a social circle of normies? Fuck that.

>>12007072
>>12007049

>not knowing since 2014 julien has been exposed as a cheater with his results
hes been duping girls into getting a modeling job and sleeping with them Harvey Winestein style

>>12007049
link to torrents? i remember this guy back in the day but lost interest.

>>12005976
he's a bipolar cuck

>>12010916
Oh yeah sorry alpha, athletic, charismatic chad. We know you don't even have to talk to women to get them: they are all drooling over you.
>>12011846
Yeah you're right. Picking up women in public places doesn't work at all. The dozen women i picked up like that recently were also all actresses. They were paid by RSD to make me believe PUA works.
>>12015179
You get it. If you have 0 experience with women, how can you even hope to find a good one? It's like going in a MMA cage with 0 experience in fighting, you could possibly win, but your chances are small.
Pick up is like bodybuilding. It takes works and perseverance to get at an intermediary level.

>>12006650
I don't want this though. It's meaningless to me. I want certain things to be a certain way because that way gives it meaning to me. Like not wanting a new, better pet when your pet dies but just wanting your old pet back. I want a woman who desperately doesn't want me to fuck other women. I'm now married with a kid by the way.

Tyler was always great because his work can be applied outside of just picking up women. He has always been about enabling freedom of choice and being your "best self."

>>12015790
I don't like Tyler, but better be a bipolar cuck who fucks women than a bipolar cuck masterbating to porn.

>>12005976
When will this man just admit hes a fag?

jesus christ listen to how camp his voice is and how feminine his mannerisms are.

I've never done/read/studied any of this PUA stuff, but I'm in my mid 20's and I've easily slept with 50+ women (I don't count anymore), and while that number isn't THAT high, I am already absolutely exhausted of the whole song and dance surrounding picking girls up.

Here's the thing: most of you would be disgusted with a girl that has slept with 50+ men. It's like she loses a little bit of her soul for every partner that dicks her down. You probably look at men and we say, "It's only natural that a male sleeps with more women!" Natural selection! Evolution! It biologically makes sense! etc. etc.

I still think that men lose a little bit of themselves for every partner they have. There are a lot of broken men out there trying to define their life by how much sex they have. There might be some instant gratification in fucking a big booty girl every other night, but I much more admire the guy who had solid relationships with a few girls and then settled down with a quality wife, than the lost guy who has slept with 50+ broken women with a gem thrown in here and there. I understand the "you need to sleep with 100's before you know what you're looking for!" viewpoint though, and it always does make me feel more relieved when I'm confident my number is higher than my partners.

Thoughts on Juliens transformation mastery?

There are only 3 things in life I believe in:

ChainLink, TheRedPill and Julienhimself

>>12016014
what do you do to sleep with a girl

>>12016014

still bluepilled after all these lays.

i slept with quite a few women and i am shocked about the nature of most of them.

Guys,what am i if i find women utterly disgusting but im not gay either. Like i still wanna put my dick in them buy after i cum i just get this disgusted feeling. Like im just disgusted by their biology. I get sick thinking about how their pussy works and the different discharge that come from their gash. It makes my dick shrink immateriality after i nut

>>12016271
leave your room pajeet

>sead

>>12016333
wtf are you talking about?

>>12010963
Kek that instagram is gold

>>12013647
Well skilled, preying on drunk people dressing like a ginger Travolta isn't a skill

>>12014985

Tinder made 80/20 iron law and destroyed dating.

>>12005976
80% of what he says is 100% true
The other 20% is marketing. If you can filter his marketing and accidental ego trips, his videos are probably one of the most informative peaces of information you can get on the internet (of course depending on whether you're a full blown incel or a natural who already knows some of those things)

Looks are Everything.

>>12017076
If you are good looking and don't feel comfortable talking with women, they will not be able to process it and will actively try to destroy you.
I know that from experience.

>>12016140
i consider selling all my Linkies after reading this reddit tier post, fuckin hell

>>12016140
>Julienhimself
Watched a bunch of his more current videos. He is world-class, but he seems incredibly fake now. Like he isn't taking well to the pressure of success.

I liked ideas such as cold reading, preparing stories, psychological tricks and social mindset, but I slowly became insane. Now I am mostly christian and think there is something incredibly satanic, jewish and destructive about this.
Ross Jeffries
Robert Greene
Sneaky etc.

>>12006380
lol, you sound like the overcompensating one. not a fan of his, however he has had multiple long-term relationships lasting over 3 years. clueless boomer

>>12017411
what the fuck is 'Sneaky'? Is that a person? Send link i wanna scope

he owns a house on a hilltop in hollywood hills. anyone has details on his house or net worth?

>>12007126
>be watching laruina
>breathing and heartbeat rate go up just from watching the example with the girl
send help. i'm not gonna make it

>>12017737
idk if he's just saying they're "sneaky, etc"

>>12005976
for someone who's made a career out of picking up women, he has a pretty gay affect and way of talking