/biz/ - Business & Finance

Bears are consolidating for the sour hour

INB4 DIVIDENDS ARE MY FRIEND

HOSANNA

FOREVER

HOSANNA FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER

>>11992144
Imagine being some lower-level nobleman and your wife keeps blowing yuge sums of money buying decorative fake eggs.

Is now the right time to sell AMD or is it going to keep going up?

Bull Loot

>>11992171
no one knows anon, that's what makes this so fun

>>11992169
I assume one of them would contain a genie, and thefore would be worth it.

Well since the old thread died as a 28 yo boomer who owns 0 stocks but has some money to play with, should I start an account on vanguard and start putting 1k a month ito an index fund like VOO for comfy long term gains? Is all it takes to buy stocks from there your bank routing number and such? No broker?

>Make 5% in a day
>My brain somehow rationalizes this to "Dude you made some money go buy that gun"
>I go buy a gun that is worth twice as much as i made in gains
why do i do this to myself

>>11992065
real talk: weedstocks and crypto have a lot of the same investor base so when one has low volume the other has high

but right now they're both getting beat on pretty hard; I'd stay away

>>11992190
You're not buying stocks when you buy index fund. Vanguard does it on your behalf. No broker involved

>>11992190
yes you should do exactly that. you'll need to use a broker. https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

personally i like etrade since it's full featured and there are no transaction fees on vanguard ETFs

>>11992190
vanguard IS the broker, yeah. you just transfer money and buy. they don't have commissions for non-leveraged ETFs. smart, boring play is to put money into VOO or VT or whatever every month and then don't fuck with it.

Salut, les /biz/raeliens! Es-ce qu'il y a un forum comme 4chins mais en français ou on peut suivez des grenuiolles shitpostant en direct sur les gilets jaunes et tous ça ?

>>11992200
>real talk: weedstocks and crypto have a lot of the same investor base so when one has low volume the other has high

One thing I've noticed is that weed stockes often move anti-cyclical to the rest. If everything else is red, the might go green and vice versa.

Just like today.

>>11992253
Je n'en connais pas mais il y a beaucoup de français sur /pol/ tu peux faire un thread sur le sujet et parler en français avec les autres sur le thread mais tu vas aussi avoir d'autres personnes qui vont venir discuter en anglais

Told you not to trust this market.

>>11992281
you faggot said everything and the contrary at the same time

I once saw a bunch of high dividends kill my uncle's cousin's best friend's former room mate. Dividends not even once.

red day incoming. this is no bull market

>>11992207
>>11992212
>>11992218
Thanks Frens

Is it worth it to make a Robinhood account exclusively to trade options, or is this retarded?

>>11992290
Welcome to /smg/

>>11992262
>stupid people invest in stupid things
Who would have thunk.

>>11992335
Not at all? How else are you gonna buy Lambo?

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>11992335
in the past year I have lost about $10K gambling on options

so yeah do it faget

>>11992293
if dividends did it, he deserved it.

Trust me anons....

>>11992340
Dude weed...

>>11992361
jews everywhere in the industry, obviously. something you need to get over if you want to play the game and become the jew.

>>11992351

Lots of frens on sale today because people expect powell to change back from his recent dovish tune
GIS and Kelloggs good price. Bullish on poptarts

>>11992171
https://youtu.be/i0DUb7TO1dk
TL;DW taiwan semiconductor TSM

>>11992368
>jews everywhere in the industry

kek. The funny part, he even does the hand wrenching in the commercial. Doesn't even try to hide it. I laugh every time it comes on.

>>11992373
i've been avoiding KHC for the longest time but it looks too good to not pick up some shares soon. i might be catching a falling knife but buffet-sama is still holding his stake in the company

Today's rally fading

>mfw keep falling for meme stocks like AMRN instead of investing in a real company

>>11992422
KHC is buffets third (possibly second) largest holding
They just acquired a paleo company too which could help attract the nu-generation

Everything is green as fuck, holy shit.

GIVE ME THE GAINS

>>11992422
Its a good buy but you have to be patient and be ready to average down.

>FB Twitter Netflix Tesla Amazon
FAANG GAANG

>>11992428
a delay in the tariffs war just bring uncertainty, which is poison to the markets; people want stability, not uncertainty; write down those dam tariffs already (higher or lower, it doesn't matter) and say they're valid for 10 years or something,

>>11992520
i'm ok with averaging down. my end goal is to never sell any of my dividend portfolio, so unless the company completely falls apart, I'm fine with volatility in the share price

>>11992538
this guy gets it

>wake up
>coughing up blood
>flem in my lungs
>want to die
>check UDOW
>makes life worth living

>>11992144
>>11992175
>boss had an antique store upstairs
>made me do work for it during down times
>used to have to research authenticity and prices because “I’m good at computers” which just means I knew how to google shit
>used to get prices for all her shit in a few minutes and spend the next week playing games and shitposting while pretending to work
>learned fuckloads about antiques
>women fucking love that I’ll go antique shopping with them and can spot deals
>gotten me laid numerous times
Guess it was worth it.

Trying to think of all the company's that it'd be perfect to pick up after a crash.

Alphabet, Yum Brands, are my go to. Maybe IBM, AT&T, Disney, Comcast, Intel, Caterpillar, Costco, Intel, and Kellog.

What do ya'll think

>>11992560
You either have tuberculosis, or lung cancer. Either way it's not good, enjoy life while you have it.

>>11992269
>>11992262
Its habbening boys, we're being BOGGED

>>11992460
its lower now because he bought a shitload of apple and banks recently. ill start a new position KHC, add to my position in JPM and pick up a new position in WFC this month. Might as well begin to emulate the GOAT

SPY is fucked.

>>11992565
alphabet and yum are gud.

no to ibm T comcast intel cat

buy kellog before the crash not after

yes disney cosco

>>11992565
lets be honest, you're never going to enter the market

>>11992564
I sure hope you own Antiques anon
My Gollywog/black Americana collection has outperformed the markets for years

>>11992623
I'm already in the market, I'm holding Dollar General and Verisk Analytics rn.

>KO
>PG
>JNJ
nooo my value

>>11992565
no point in timing the market. just get in but don't throw all your money in it at once. add in a set amount every week/two weeks/month or whatever your schedule is, add in about the same each time you invest, and do it over the long term.

if you think a bear market is imminent (i.e. inverse in the long and short term treasury rates happen) you can always hold some extra money in savings that can be deployed.

>>11992565
Also looking into this. What metrics or whatever are you using to pick these companies? I’m pretty new to the stock market.
Also if your looking for stocks to buy before the crash so far I have P&G and KO

Hello again, boomers. Your favorite zoomer is back with an important message:
Buy Chainlink

>>11992645
How is dollar general been doing? When did you buy. I just watched a documentary about how they are expanding really fast.

so if i put in 235 a week i can buy one of each of my stock wowzers man investing is soooooooo cooool man

This fucking day is untradeable

>>11992692
P/E ratio should be near the top of your list in determining what stocks to buy at any certain point. It helps let you know what stocks are overvalued and which are undervalued (other factors need to be considered). also compare by sector, not just by stocks. Some sectors have really low p/e (telecoms) and some have higher p/e (tech)

Hey all,

guy who has made 70k+ on AMRS the last 4 years.

after the huge drop, we got some positive stability now, going to buy 30k or so worth here and ride up to 9ish or longer.

>>11992628
>>11992628
I sold most of it when I was unemployed. Part cause I needed the money but mostly cause I wanted to downsize. Gained about $3k total which paid the bills a couple of months.
I did keep a large part of my photography equipment, some dating back to the 1800s, a small collection of tools, and some sports memorabilia from when I was a kid.
I do have a very large original painting that was given to me by a dear friend and mentor who was a somewhat well known artists. I doubt I’ll ever sell it though.

>>11992698
Zoomer get the bat

Rn I have small shares in Appl and VZ. And large holding of the s&p500 and KO. What do you think biz?

Just bought $DIS calls

How justed am I

>>11992779
Sell appl

>>11992779
Not the worst picks I have seen today

where is stop selling guy we need him right now

DRUMPFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>11992815
Berkshire Hathaway still holds a lot of appl. I might double down if it gets near 160.
Don’t ask why 160 I have no idea.

>>11992815
Friendship ended with APPL now APLE is my best friend

MAGNESIUM SUPPORT AT 2770

>>11992843
A fuckton of Berkshire employees are about to become former employees.

>>11992857
Good old Buffet just bought back almost $1B worth of Berkshire shares. A-are you doubting the 3% CAGR KING?!?!?

>>11992857
Lol they only have like 5. They also have THE best track record when it come led to long term stock picking.

>>11992857
wait is Buffet Senpai going to going to shit can a bunch of people before Christmas during a "bull market"?

Gains of Tqq and Lite
Cashed out
Purchasing oil etfs now

Toronto is red

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EGSPTSE?p=%5EGSPTSE

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Fuck deans food Im never going to win RKG competition

>>11992923
Why are you buying oil etfs? Should I?

Dude weed To the moon!

>>11992923
I'll buy oil at 42 ;)

>green day but it hurts
is this hell?

IT WAS A TRAP!!!!!’

WERE GOIN DOWN LADS

CRON JUST GOT BOUGHT OUT!!!!

>>11992923
You're buying oil too soon.

Let's go CRON

WHY DIDN'T I SELL AT OPEN

CRON just jumped 20% in less than 10 min

SPY already down 1% since open. We will finish red for today. We are going into a recession. Nothing can save the economy. There is literally no more good news for bulls. G20 is over, tariffs are on hold, and rate hikes are neutral. What are bulls looking forward to? I would urge you guys to sell immediately and wait on sidelines during bear market.

Can anybody explain to me why the market is capitulating on the news of the Great Trade War of 2018 halting to cease fire?

>>11992169
>lower level nobleman could afford a faberge egg

>>11993010
Uncertainty

>>11993010
Golden bulls are cashing out 5% of their holding to buy Faberge eggs

Bought CRON at 9.75!

NICE

>>11993021
this.

>>11993010
Newstrading is retarded

Well not quite a green day now, but still up $100+ since Friday afternoon, so can't complain too much

>>11993010
It's not a deal, it's kicking the can down the road for 90 days?

>>11993085
>he isnt green today
Biblebro what the fuck?

>>11993010
market is still overvalued and a real correction is still coming and temporary good news isn't enough

Fund managers are panicking as they are no longer able to forecast the direction of the stock market and price inpredictable gains
due to this sudden unexpected change.
So they offload any short-term holds they can while they wait for the market to adjust or correct itself.
This has the effect of bringing the last and greatest US stock market rally to a premature end.

>>11992717
Their ice machine doesnt have any ice for sale last I went

GE can break these cuffs

just put in $2000 into aphria, am i retarded or is there a good chance it will bounce up immediately tomorrow.

$2000 is a month's pay to me, im scared

>>11993156

>>11993108
you know what happens during a bear market if you've invested in good dividend stocks? You get to cost average down, increasing your yield, and still getting paid.

share price fluctuation just creates buying opportunities.

>>11993162
what does that mean, stop scaring me

Thanks to whoever told me happy birthday the other day

>>11993096
Like I said, huge pump over the weekend, so in my mind I'm still green
But according to Robinhood im not today

These bags are feeling heavy. Especially looking at Cron jump up at nothing but rumour.

>>11993156
kek, start loading up on rice and beans

you should only be investing in what you can afford after considering all necessities.

>>11993170
I hope for you it will go up again but I have my doubts.

Who bought out CRON

>>11993207
That’s just capitulation talking

AW YEAH AMD LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's it, bulls?

>>11993193
That feel when you can no longer afford rice and beans...

>>11993212
Some cigarette company.

I think we're getting close to retail pot in convenient stores.

>>11993096
It's probably a mix of LMT and my hedges I got Friday ( SQQQ, TVIX, VIIX)
My reverse ETF's are only down about $12 today, so throw in LMT's -$12 since 9am, and that's probably the main reason it's red day

My meme holdings are mixed red and green, as usual

>>11993219
Well it's holiday season, I'm just polite

>>11993193

Thanks for confirming my contrarian, bullish case. I expect another December rally like last year's.

>>11993226
of course not suck my big golden Bull COCK
we're rallying straight to 3000 in a perfect straight line

>>11992717
I bought around the end of july and then doubled down last week. It's been doing pretty well, I've got about 10% unrealized gains. I chose it since it's a company that would do well in a recession and has very limited exposure to china, especially compared to its immediate competitors like dollar tree.

>>11993229
Do you own Boeing? im literally going to kill myself for not buying LMT and Boeing dip

>>11993229
this is the most memefolio ever

>>11992692
this
>>11992750
plus, also just look at their debt ratios and retained earnings over time.

>>11993253
Yes, one of my favorite holds, pic related is the main reason I've never averaged in more BA shares

If I'm having a bad day, I can just look at BA and remember that holding is better than trading
(My profit off of it is higher thanks to juicy dividends)

>>11993268
Oh it gets worse
And AMZN has been good to me, considering my original buy in was $980 for one AMZN share

Just made $5,000 on CRON


thanks weedfags

>>11993303
Lost 1500 on Aphria. Thanks weedfags. Or I would have if I capitulated

Someone wanna shill a good penny stock I can dump 300 on

>>11993303
How tf do you pick that stock? Dumb luck?

>>11993346
Watching it on my TradeView platform. Saw it shot up and immediately bought.

The power of real time stock data baby.

>>11993346
Wait until Cron corrects down, buy and wait a month

>>11993368
Meant for
>>11993341

>>11993332
This brings back memories. I was on Aphria pre-election (Trudeau), it was entirely a bet that liberals would win and push the weed legalization through. Shit was less than a dollar back then. You gotta look on things that are uncertain now and will succeed in the future, and thats the hard work of investing.

>>11993395
Cron has its own rumour mill months ago. Now the rumours are in its favour. Aphria is far from over

I think the Cron thing is bs... Altria is a US based company... Cron is Canada based... Until Federal government legalizes it, I wouldn't touch a US company doing it...
Would make more sense if they said PM

would it be a bad idea to switch my 12/7 QQQ calls to slightly OTM 12/21 QQQ calls? Or should I just take profit and stay out

>>11993484
ok big5guy

>>11992198
Buy once cry once
Bam, purchase justified

>>11993346

MEME MAGIC

Saw the news on here, got in on the dip after the halt then sold on the second spike

Daily Reminder you all need to just give me your money so I can make actual money for you.

is it not safe to assume that reddit will make aphria bounce back up 5% tomorrow on hype alone?

Did you just win Eternal Bear's contest?

>All major U.S. markets will be closed for a national day of mourning on Wednesday December 5, 2018, to honor the passing of George H.W. Bush, the 41st president of the United States.


REEEEEEEEEE

>>11993598
ITS LIKE THEY WANT IT TO PLUMMET

>>11993609
Just a slight pause in the plummeting... was not the truce enough.... some people are never happy

>>11993598

It’s real

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

the yield curve inverted

>>11993598
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/01/business/markets-closed-george-h-w-bush/index.html

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>11993635
Why are you so retarded?

>>11993652
WTF I hate George Bush now.

>>11993683
>now

>>11993694
underrated

neat little yield curve tool

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/yieldcurve.php

SSO and QLD bros, rise up.

Nice 4.5% gain already on my QLD purchase from last week, ty for the free profits

>>11993658
what site lets you see the comparisons? once the yield curve inverts I'll just push half of what I would invest into savings until it either snaps back or a bear market triggers

>>11993763
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/Pages/TextView.aspx?data=yield

I was told there would be a rally

>>11993763
Literally the first result for treasury yields you fucking moron. God forbid you don't immediately protect your $4000 savings once the inversion happens.

>>11993763
you literally get a free 1-2 year bigass rally after the inversion as the fed slows rates...

>>11993807
>$4000 savings
kek, invest around that much per month

>>11993634
of course its real
do you think anonymous would lie to you, anon?

>>11993824
>babby can't even find yields

Hope your kids weren't planning on going to college

>>11993744
>QLD bros, rise up.

I want more healthcare exposure but don't understand burger medicare. Can you explain if UNH and CVS are good buys? I never heard of those companies here.

>aphria

>>11993837
>kids
hahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahhahaha

only a moron would bring kids into this world right now. not until Trump wins in 2020 and RBG dies and he gets to replace her can I feel comfortable with bringing children into a world where fucktards want socialism in the US

>>11993852
CVS, JNJ, UNH are all good buys

>>11992198
Kek. Just bought myself a gun too and I'm down 11% on the year. Whatd you get?

Stay down DOW, just stay down, I dont want to hurt you DOW, just don't get up

Shout out to the S&P Committee or whoever replaced GE with Walgreens on the DOW
that was an amazing call

F
CRON
IQ
See you on the moon guys!!!!!!

>>11993891
shut your whore mouth

>>11993860
You're extremely ignorant. Socialism is the future. Capitalism breaks down once technology solves the scarcity problem. All governments in Star Trek are socialist. We are almost there. Solar and fusion will make energy near $0.

>>11993836

Of course not, that never happens

>>11993959
capitalism breaks down far before technology deals with scarcity. As profit rates get lower and lower it starts to break down as an engine for growth, and at the same time that infusions of debt through monetary and fiscal policy do less and less to put growth back on track during recessions. Eventually, people will need to look to other ways to have consistent growth, and I doubt capitalism would be able to survive as it begins to fail to deliver the goods.

>>11994006
>>11993959
pls move to venezuela and enjoy your utopia

>>11993959
>>11994006
This is the wrong board you are looking for >>>/lgbt/

>>11993341
CEI hurry up man

Will Facebook go over two fiddy? Down 12 percent atm and thinking about leaving the sinking ship

>>11993959
>All governments in Star Trek are socialist

>>11993852
>but don't understand burger medicare
The medicare program is administered by 12 Medicare Administrator Contractors. Just look up the companies, and google who their parent company is. Alternatively you can check the Medicaid contractors for each state and look at their parent companies. It would be better to focus on providers of managed care plans than hospitals since managed care operates like a subscription service.

>>11993341
WFT

See you on the MOON!

>>11994114
>What is the Ferengi Alliance?

>>11993359
what do you use? robinhood?

>>11994135
I bet he doesn't even know the first rule of acquisition

>>11994231
>first rule of acquisition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYtAmrQUt_s

>>11994181
Yeah with Tradeview.

Reminder that the guy who runs CRON name is Michael (((Gorenstein))).

CRON $30 is a sure thing.

>all these stock gains but no no Star Fleet to join and explore the mysteries of the universe with

>>11994135
Thanks for proving my point? The Ferengi are a perfect example of why Capitalism is inferior in the future. The Federation is vastly superior in all respects compared to the Ferengi. The Federation could annihilate the Ferengi easily if they wanted to.

I guess this is what I needed to realize I don't know the first fucking thing about options trading kek. At least it was only $40

>>11994284
and the borg is the perfect example of why socialism is evil and must be resisted

>>11994323
The borg are socialist? For me the borg always represented a typical consumerist society with interchangeable drones + the queen willing to sacrifice as many as she needs to achieve her goals.

>>11994320

lmao

>>11994359
>literally called the Borg Collective
sorry anon

this is the final showdown for GIS
It double bottoms, or crashes to 30s, company dies, biggest crash in 1 million years

>>11993884
i bought the pic
357/38spc winchester

>>11994380
I hate the design of those fucking cups, they are death traps for smol animals
I'll buy out GIS to demand change

>>11994029

>>11994044
I may be a faggot but even I've got standards, anon.

When do companies pay dividends? I can't find a date for Nintendo so I have no idea if they are yearly or quaterly

>>11994006
>your system isn't perfect
>here's my full retard system that always fails and should replace it because I never learned what soldiering was
I can't tell if these people are trolls or what anymore.

>>11994284
>He doesn't want to derive sexual pleasure from an ear love rub
Maybe you just don't understand the nuances of ferangi society

>>11994367
We're still good!

>>11994006
>begins to fail to deliver the goods
this coming from a commie
oh nonononono

>>11994398
venezuela is still socialist and is still a piece of shit. as every other country that has tried socialism/communism

face it, its fucking stupid and only faux intellectuals like it. people smart enough to know what it is but not smart enough to know it will INVARIABLY fail as it always has and as it always will.

>>11994398
Commie please, you're indirectly making the "not real communism" argument
You're better than this

>>11994400
Depends. Most declare them quarterly and not all companies have a fiscal year that follows the calendar year. Some companies pay monthly, but this is rare. Every 3 months about, but the month depends on what month the company starts their calendar on.

>>11994432

sheeeeeeeeeet. thanks anon

ESTC is the futures boys

>>11994432
>>11994400
Looks like they pay July/December, which is weird as fuck with declarations in March/September
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nintendo+dividend+declaration

>>11992779
Be ready to buy more apple if it goes <175. Sell SP500, Sell KO. Look for more value elsewhere otherwise dont be afraid to hold cash.

>>11994480
You leave KO alone anon. KO is one of my deathgrip forever holds.

What do I do I have no idea what to do. I should have just bought more brainlet proof low volatility dividend paying stocks

>>11994517
If I hold on can I maybe make some money back? Help

>>11994284
I bet you let your mother wear clothes.

>>11994517
>VYM
I mean really?

Mixed day today for me. TerrAscend hit circuit breaker on heavy buy pressure this morning. There was a news release about their restructuring to enter the US market earlier but i'm not sure i understand why that was enough to rocket so hard. Anyway, it has settled down now. Circuit breaker price only lasted a few minutes so i wasn't able to grab profit on that. I believe it will trend upwards in coming days regardless. Hovering around +15% now.

OGI down some but still in continuation range for bullish trend.

Entered position in Curaleaf on the low earlier.

>>11994517
Literally me 1 year ago lmao

>>11994413

Uhhhh

>>11994517
Let it ride. You knew you were throwing your money away when you bought the option.

i have 400 bucks
what stock do i buy

>>11994407
It's idealistic to think of systems as thing that can just be replaced according to whatever principles you like. I don't claim to know what will emerge from capitalism, besides the broadest of strokes. All I know is that it can't continue forever.

>>11994416
Venezuela's public sector is smaller than the US's and there's still plenty of private ownership. If Venezuela's troubles were due to socialism, then why is cuba doing so much better than them atm? Cuba which has far less markets and private ownership, and has been embargoed by the US for decades, and yet in spite of that is the only country to meet the WWF's sustainable development standard.

It's almost like Venezuela has its own distinct economic problems or something. Almost like they were a country with a large population entirely dependent on a corrupt and inefficient oil sector for their standard of living.

>>11994431
"muh venezeula" is literally the most feeble and tired talking point any time anyone brings up socialism. It deserves to be ridiculed at every opportunity.

>>11994559
O

>>11994559
buy a suit for a job interview

>>11994510
Well no problem, but its a bit more than fairly valued imo. I only buy undervalued stocks, and theyre hard to find these days. Right now my only large stock positions are Apple, Gamestop, Bank of America, Alliance Data Systems, Liberty Broadband. Not much else out there worth buying IMO. I will probably start looking at foreign stocks next. Maybe South Korea, Argentina, Brazil, Russia or something.

>>11994585
>gamestop

why buy that?

>>11994535
Abuse me more, it might motivate me to read a fucking book

>>11994554
Ok..

>>11994559
Buy just about anything you want Q1 2019 is just gonna be a non stop bullrun anyway

Make your Ether MOVE......

https://10finiti.com/

>>11994607
10finitiCONNECTTTTTTTT

>>11994544
Oh, about CRON, i might dip a toe in. It depends how power hour looks today. So far news spike, profit grab, higher low not convincingly established just yet.

>>11994006
I'll admit that Marx did an excellent job of diagnosing the issues with capitalism, but with a doctor like Marx, the cure is much worse than the disease. And unlike other snake oil doctors, he'll actively go out of his way to make sure you get even sicker until you're begging him for the cure.

Either way, I'm not terribly afraid of communism, in that it's too busy making sure all the niggers and spics are happy to accomplish anything, but corporate rule with a commie flag is just as terrible, and I'm very sick of the West's liberals using Stalin as an inspiration.

What the fuck happened to TTWO?

>>11994631
RDR2:Online is boring as cowshit

>>11994631
They should have made another GTA and not this cowboy crap

>>11994627
Marx spoke very little about what to replace capitalism with, and much of his "prescriptions" which premised on his analysis of how capitalism itself would develop.

All I know is that unless the working class expropriates the capitalists at some point in the future, we are heading on a one-way bullet train towards ecological collapse and economic catastrophe.

>>11994631
People want a WW2 game where you can kill all the jews, and win as germany. Until they stop trying to cater to SJWs who don't even purchase their products they're not going to succeed.

>>11994654
so marx was a sci fi futurist in the same vein as asimov?

>>11994648
I haven't played it but i heard the opposite
>>11994652
Why? They're milking the fuck out of gta online

>>11994566
Fair, but I'm saying there isn't a realistic alternative. Shit sucks, but so do people and that's the problem.

>>11994661
bagie no
no one wants that

>>11994664
I don't know about the sci fi part, he certainly believed socialism could have occurred within his lifetime or close enough. But I think asimov was certainly inspired by marx in many ways. Psycho-history was a blatant rip off of historical materialism, for example.

I shorted...jesus christ fucking SQQQ fucked me. Got until 12/21 to come back. Pray for rebirth.

>>11993346
I bought a call for CRON about a month ago because I knew Weed was on the rise, but god damn I didn't expect this.
I picked 4/19 as the expiration date too. Top meme magic.

>>11994654
you do realize that free markets have always taken care of things like ecology much more quickly and efficiently than the government, right?

i can't take commiefags seriously. they're the most brainlet tier of brainlets

>>11994664
Marx fucking loved capitalism. He thought it would destroy scarcity and let us all become NEETs because robawts.

I'm paraphrasing heavily but that's the gist from what I gathered.

>>11994682
marx wrote about how technology would progress and that technology would shape society
its literally science fiction futurism

>>11994670
>They're milking the fuck out of gta online
Yeah because it's easy to sell cool cars and planes to kids, normies and basedboys.. Nobody gonna spend 20$ on a slightly different looking horse

>>11994677
Are you serious? People would go ape shit over a game like that, think of all the free publicity you'd get from all the stores that refuse to stock the product, then you just end up selling 4 times as many copies on Amazon anyway.

>>11994654
based Marxist poster

>>11994686
how the fuck does this even happen?
im relatively new to this and i've managed to avoid calls/puts ever putting me below my break even.

>>11994698
based marx

>>11994597
Picked it up for ~$12.40 a share after earnings. They recently sold off their Spring Mobile division for $700M that means their entire debt balance could theoretically be erased. The stock is trading at 3X EV/EBITDA, of course the years ahead will be more difficult but the division they sold off was what was destroying their earnings (impairment of goodwill for mostly for tax reasons the cash losses werent much). In the future their balance sheet will be healthier and they basically sold off 10% of their revenues (with thin margins) for >50% of the stock price.

>>11994686
I lost 900 on sbux and have a similar amount

>>11994696
>this is what capitalists actually believe
It took the government to clean up superfund sites, and all the fucking green products and businesses haven't put any fucking dent in climate change.

>>11994707
>see that stock is at all time high
>assume it will go back down
>buy a shitload of puts
>it continues to go up anyway

>>11994733
just buy strangles

>>11994733
buy high sell higher as my grandfather used to say

>>11994719
Let me just mention its trading at almost 2X EV/EBITDA after the acquisition goes through.

>>11994677
>no one wants that
You'd be surprised by how many do.

>>11994677
>no one wants that
/pol/ would buy it

>>11994698
Marx was impressed by Capitalism's ability to constantly revolutionize itself and to make production more efficient. However, in doing this, it simultaneously prevents normal people from enjoying these productivity gains.

Let's say automation makes a bunch of work obsolete, the capitalist solution is not to have every body work less, but to make a bunch of people unemployed while the rest work just as hard as before.

>>11994731
fascists were way better at protecting the environment than commies ever were.
China's forests will probably never be the same after those bug people ravaged their countryside.

Also Cuba has some really garbage animal rights. But yeah yeah not real gommunism.

>>11994761
I don't get why a bunch of people being made obsolete is any concern of mine.

>>11994707
$16 calls on SQQQ. Basically its like a put but its a call. Fuck around with 3x ETFs and you gone get burned. Had I gone $55 TQQQ calls I'd be having one hell of a lunch today. Instead I'm drinking black coffee.

I can still most likely scratch out a pump and rebuild if there's a big down day before the 21st but I wasn't expecting so many big green dicks.

The white target was my purchase date. I was expecting it to follow the blue line. If we dropped down the path of the white dotted line we would've been back in true bull territory.

As it stands now, I'd be happy with 14.5 by the end of the week but thats a fucking big dip to gain on.

Lesson learned, dont short after the fucking short. I was fearful when I should've been greedy.

>>11994686
never hold leveraged ETFs for more than a day

>>11994692

Well done anyway, lucky or no. Cron was not one of the companies i considered a buy out target. Certainly not from big tobacco. I figured Altria would make a heavy investment in one of the larger LPs in similar way Constellation did with Canopy. Pretty exciting.

>>11994731
>muh climate change
you do realize that we can literally rip CO2 out of the air, turn the byproduct into carbon and use that carbon in other products. there is always a free market change.

go fuck a tree

>>11994775
Eventually it will be
See Paris...

>>11994761
>the capitalist solution is not to have every body work less
The capitalist solution is for everybody to do something else that produces value.
>>11994775
>I don't get why a bunch of people being made obsolete is any concern of mine.
You will when the hordes overwhelm and consume all your stuff like man sized locusts.

>Everything green
>Except coke, which falls 2%
JUST

>>11994809
That's what we have face-recognizing explosive drones for. And hiring the capable for security duty.

>>11994770
Bolsonaro is literally about to burn down the amazon rain forest.

China was attempting to copy industrial development of capitalist countries, and lately has become cucked by allowing in capitalists to the communist party. They need a new revolution to kick out all these revisionists. And indeed, wildcat strikes and covert marxist organizing has been increasing in recent years.

>>11994775
If you work, I'd imagine you'd prefer to work less for more or the same money, no?

>>11994810
Haven't you heard? We're risk-on again; everything is going to be fine.

The fucking commies are at it again

>Germany, France Try to Jump-Start EU Financial-Transaction Tax

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-03/germany-france-try-to-jump-start-eu-financial-transaction-tax

>>11994809
>The capitalist solution is for everybody to do something else that produces value.
Unemployment does not create value.

>>11994789
The proposals to create carbon neutral gas are all well and good, but frankly does nothing about fossil fuel extraction already occurring, which certainly isn't about to be put out of business by that technology.

You can't price in the cost of climate change into a commodity, and when you try, you get france rn. The only reasonable solution atm is a green new deal, and similar mass mobilization campaigns.

>>11994841
>why is our economy struggling so hard, I cant figure it out

>>11994841
day traders on suicide watch.

>>11994777
good luck anon. I hope you get your gains back.
>>11994780
thanks senpai. I consider it kinda lucky but I was making a very conscious move into dudeweed after seeing weed candidate win in my state. I should've got more but CRON wasn't my first pick, more of an afterthought.
>>11994731
I just remembered I forgot to mention how China gasses the planet with their smog.
>>11994775
gas is expensive in France and look what's happening. What do you think will happen once the bogs activate automated unemployment.
>>11994830
>If you work, I'd imagine you'd prefer to work less for more or the same money, no?
This is extremely short sighted thinking. Your pay should ideally be based on how much you work. Why should someone who works 10 hours be paid the same as someone who works 40?
Do you even know how incentives work?
How is it fair for one worker to put in all the effort, and other less effective workers get the same effort? Why would the better worker be motivated to work as well as he can?

Yes I'd love to take the free candy pass, but big brain adults should think about the world as if what can be applied to them, can be applied to everybody.
>>11994866
explain to me how communism would create employment of value when said employment has no value in a universal income society?
If I can get the same money without employment, employment means literally nothing more than a hobby.

she's back anons

Buy the SPY.

>>11994566
People are floating on doors to escape cuba.

being a piece of shit may be better than being a giant piece of shit, but it's still a piece of shit.

Venezuela's problems came with collective farming taking over the energy production from private to government run, and just being overall inefficient like EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT IN THE WORLD. Which is why free markets are ALWAYS better than the government in picking winners and losers.

I'm done trying to argue with a moron who thinks communism is the future. its retarded and so is anyone who thinks its good

Why aren't the US futures up like 10%? Isn't the trade war over??

>>11994920

>Tumblr Ban

Another victim to succumb to /pol/ and /b/. First was Habbo Hotel. Then the Tumblr/4chan war.

SELL

ABSOLUTELY

EVERYTHING

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/treasury-yield-curve-just-inverted-sounding-alarm-recession-194921816.html

>>11994915
reward for less effort*
whatever you get what I meant.

>>11994947
priced in + uncertainty = people have no idea what to do.

>>11994948
Wait why did Tumblr ban adult content anyways? That was like the only thing people still gave a shit about Tumblr for.

Did Retarded Kneepad Girl die for real this time?

>>11994971

Child predators using the site.

>>11994957
Looks like you boys have been misbehaving...

>>11994957
finally.
>>11994974
hope so. anybody retarded enough to shill FUN deserves to be left in the gutter

>>11994957
meh, these are the inversions you need to watch for

>>11994957
>IT'S REAL

AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11994924
I haven't had CNBC in a while.
Where'd she go?

>>11994915
> Your pay should ideally be based on how much you work. Why should someone who works 10 hours be paid the same as someone who works 40?
...anon, that has literally nothing to do with what we're talking about. The communist demand when people are laid off due to automation is to decrease the hours in the work week. I don't see any reason why that would change pay ratios between people.

As for universal income, people who have enough money to know they are going to have their bare minimum needs met generally still work because there are other things they want in life.

>>11994974
yes
kind of the elephant in the room

Hey guys this will be my first recession, is it better to just hold dividend stocks, or bailout completely

>>11995002
maternity leave, she had a healthy black baby

>>11995000
>>11994999
checked

time to start putting half my investment money into high yield savings just in case the market tanks and I can get all the cheapies

>>11994999
what am I looking at sir?

Pack it in folks, Christmas is canceled.

>>11994957
This isnt even the real yield curve LMAO
BUY BUY BUY

>>11994957
Butthurt ass bears. gtfo

>>11995026
where we're going, savings wont help you

Only gold and silver can save you for whats coming

>>11995026
it's amazing the psychological win of sitting on some cash will bring during market troughs

>>11995042
fear

>>11995025
Please be joking with me on the internet.

>>11995003
Your intentions seem good. But revolutions always end with a few rich elites coming out on top, under the guise of representing the "people".

I don't expect the megacorps in control of the automation will be willing to give up wealth that easily. They don't even like to pay their taxes.

PUMP IT

>>11994999
>>11995054
Its not the real curve, but its a warning sign

>The yield on the 5-year Treasury note fell below the yield on the 3-year note, meaning that investors were being paid more to hold U.S. government debt maturing in three years than comparable bonds maturing in five years. It’s not the major curve inversion that investors watch for — the 2-year note holding a higher yield than the 10-year note, which has preceded every U.S. recession since World War II — but it portends that the market is headed in that direction, analysts told Yahoo Finance.
>It’s not the major curve inversion
>but it portends that the market is headed in that direction, analysts told Yahoo Finance.

>>11995059

>>11994957
AHAHAHAAHAHAH

>>11994957
shit, what should I invest in during a recession? bonds? gold? dividend aristocrats?

>>11995083
>be gommunist faggot
>laugh when the market crashes due to GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION-CAUSED BOOM AND BUST CYCLES

pic related is you

>>11994957
Lmao, so much for the Golden Bull Run.
Guess it's time to bailout of the market completely.

>>11995065
elites have existed since the dawn of civilization, I don't think that's really something that can be changed. rather, it's simply best that whoever the elites are, that they fear for their lives.

>>11995093
i might throw some money at DG just in case this happens.

>>11995077
yeah it's certainly not good.... unless it is good, since the fed will see this and may stop hiking altogether. tough to know, especially as the market sees it happening so there are no surprises.

>>11995080
That's sweet.

>>11995083
you know for every %1 increase in unemployment, roughly 40,000 people die?
Of course a commie wouldn't care about a bunch of workers dying though.

>>11995093
Waste management, Walmart, consumer staples. Physical gold and silver. Vices such as cigarettes, alcohol, and marijuana companies. Bitcoin

Start selling all Tech/finance stocks over the next 6 months

>>11995093
a "recession" was coming, last year, the year before that, last month, The month before that. last week a recession was coming too.

Fucking stupid ass scrubs

>>11995093
the greenback

>>11995115
Or you could be not autistic and actually make a grab for power yourselves.
But instead somehow the more socialist and communist a country gets the more unreachable the real elites get and you have redefine the upper-middle and middle-class as the elites and direct mobs to kill them.

Reminder You moon hardcore after the official 10 year 30 year inversion
Lmao do you niggers even SPY

>>11995136
>being this overconfident in the economy

Your ripe for the JUSTing

>>11995115
Because as we all know, in Communist countries the elites live in fear and not the common people.

>>11995136
>people's gut feelings vs. actual evidence recession is happening

>>11995134
physical gold or silver have historically been terrible hedges against recessions and inflation.

bonds fare better. might as well just throw it into a dividend aristocrat/king and at least get some cash while you wait for the recession/bear market to turn back into a bull

>>11995149
Yeah, and then it crashes -50% 6 months later

>>11995156
i remember when i was new too i fell for some of that recession fearmongering bullshit and placed a ton of puts.. was a bullrun that day, the first day i ever lost money

>>11995115
>elites in communism are the ones with guns and the power of military behind them
>elites in communism fear for their lives

are you this retarded every day or is today getting to you?

and here's your last (you), mentally filtering you out since 4chan x doesn't work yet on 4channel

>>11995149
The market has come down after every time it mooned though.

>>11995176
gold/silver were rising untill the stimulus plan got announced.

but the next crash there wont be a stimulus plan, when the dollars that will be printed to stimulate the economy become worthless

bonds are worthless too. you really think everyone will get their money back at the end of the bond terms? Its one big hot potato/musical chairs game

>>11995178
Nice selfie, see you in 2 years when that becomes relevant and the SPY is 400 XD

>>11995115
>elites have existed since the dawn of civilization
A single individual had never held more wealth than an entire nation. Until the late 1800s. I think it was Rockefeller, maybe Rothschild. The elites of today are more powerful than any King in history. But anyway, I'd rather live under the elites in Burgerland than the elites in Venezuela.
You need to read up on everything that happened AFTER Karl Marx. The invention of electricity was pretty damn neat.

I also find it funny a commie would end up using a tripcode. Instead of being an anonymous voice amung the masses :^).

>>11995201
Remember what the yields did to the SPY in october, or do you have a short memory?

>>11995189
same. the bearish take is so much more alluring when you're new to markets. i bought $FAZ in 2010.

the reality is that there's always a million reason not to be involved in the market, and yet it continues to be the best way to build wealth over the long term.

>>11995208
I do have a short memory, but I already know LArge specs sold off october from Railroad fears

>>11995201
Ratsy I just got here, how did nobody ask you about your egg? I thought you were joking, what the fuck is that and is it a practical purchase for neetdom?

>>11995189
>>11995216
The problem is that the markets been on a bullrun for 10 years now. In 2008, the S&P was 770. Today it is 2784. You are a brainlet if you are not at least re-evaluating your portfolio. Times like these its good to be 25% cash. Personally I'm ganna go 25% silver

>>11995232
Its an official Fabrege Egg toothpick holder

Migrate legally

>>11995256
>>11995256
>>11995256
>>11995256
>>11995256
>>11995256

>>11995240
i keep my book conservative enough that i can sleep peacefully at night, no matter the outcome. i've got bonds, cash, gold, convertible bonds, etc.

I made money on my first option trade today guys. Kinda worried/lost on what to do next since I'm new to this. Put in 38$ came out with 101$ in a week have no clue how I got lucky for being a full tard at this. I feel like options is just gambling... But the only real fast passive income strat..

>>11995240
>>11995216
>>11995189
>The average Bull Market period lasted 9.1 years with an average cumulative total return of 480%. The average Bear Market period lasted 1.4 years with an average cumulative loss of -41%.

This bullrun has been precisely 9.1 years now and the return is 350%. there is little upside at this point and much more downside

>>11995240
Its good to be cautious with every investment you make, But you just said its been in a bullrun for 10 years so you really wana take those 10:1 odds?

>>11995279
Here is what Robinhood told me I made.

>>11995282
>there is little upside at this point and much more downside
people said the same in the 80s/90s

>>11995282
We're on a parabola bro.

>>11995144
Last I checked Americans are still ruled by political dynasties, which, even being uncharitable, largely did not occur in communist countries.

>>11995168
Was referring to the revolutions. Although, if you're looking for a system that does that, the closest that's come since the industrial revolution is the paris commune.

>>11995198
see above.

>>11995205
Americans have the added benefits of just exploiting other countries if need be, Venezuelans, elite or not, have no such luxury.

As for the tripcode, I just use it to identify myself as a commie
>The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims.
t. Marx

>>11995102
>GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION-CAUSED BOOM AND BUST CYCLES
lmao, pic related

>>11995132
thousands dead at the hands of capital. the laughing from schadenfreude over what awaits the capitalists is all we can do not to cry over the tragedy that surrounds us every single day.

>>11995543
> pic related
How can you be a communist when know stuff like that? The competition in capitalism causes corporations to invest more and more, while earning less and less, untill we reach peak effiency and it is no longer profitable to invest. By then the corporations will be literal charity organisations.

How can you think it is preferable to have an inefficient monopoly (communism)?

>>11995684
lol, you honestly think corporations will just /willingly/ become charities? All they'll do is just pull increasingly desperate stuff to turn a profit. They are legally obligated to create shareholder value. You want them to act as "charities" or have production coordinated by something other than profit, then you want socialism.

>>11995543
>commie decides to post on stock market general on /biz/

>>11995841
I'm quite comfy right where I am, anon

>>11995438
No, you just miss the elites completely, create NEW political dynasties, and then direct the angry mob to kill kulaks, or middle-class white people if we want to be modern about it, in order to hopefully get them off your backs.

I will give Stalin some credit though. At least he wasn't a faglover.

>>11995827
>or have production coordinated by something other than profit
production has to be coordinated by profit to be efficient

>you honestly think corporations will just /willingly/ become charities
It will be done through the very nature of capitalism, their charity will consist in prices being as low as they can possibly be - thereby benefiting the general population. Scarcity problem has its solution in capitalism.

The only thing they might do outside of that is use the government (or become the government) in order to have monopolies/cartells.

brainlet here

For long term investing (NOT options, scalping, margin, etc.), why do people buy ETF shares instead of just buying the companies in it manually and skipping the management fee? Is it laziness? it literally takes 20 minutes.

>>11995956
Because the incredibly smart managers of the ETF changes its contents over time to maximize profit, and you would have to do that yourself if it wasn't for them. What is more important? you time or your money?

>>11995945
>the communists ganging up on middle class white ppl
L O L.

Also, last I checked, Stalin's kiddies didn't become leaders of the USSR.

>>11995946
>production has to be coordinated by profit to be efficient
That coordination is becoming increasingly irrational as the rate of profit falls. Investors seek out riskier and riskier investments as they try to find keep their returns stable. This means bigger and bigger bubbles, more cut corners in production, and greater pressure for exploitation.

Cost based pricing is nothing new, anon. But so long as profits exist, there will always be an extra percent tacked on to the actual cost.

>>11994974
Yes she has now died 4 times this year