/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>1191025

Do you think its that bad?

At best I can see the market maintain.

Not worth the risk of the significant potential for 10-20% losses in the next 6-12 months.

It could possibly go down hard, but we're going to need some specific piece of news to send it flying downwards.

We've had oil, we've had china, so now what? Europe doing something insanely stupid?

I try to stay clear of the old man guy gold crowd...

This is just overwhelming though. At best very little upside.

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/simple-janet-jabbering-on-the-edge-of-a-live-volcano/

Even if the FED turns the faucet back on... will it work anymore?

>>1191072
Like migrants.

People have been saying this on /biz/ for over two years now

Kept mine in stable value back at my other job. Saved me from the 2008 fuckstorm.

>>1191025
I feel like it will either break through 2100 or bounce down off it. Especially considering earnings are so bad now.

If it hits 2100 I'll jump in, stoploss on 2075, to the moon otherwise.

>stock market averages +11% every year for 100 years.
>what reason would a company become publicly traded? Well, to generate shareholder value and receive more funding
>the primary goal of a publicly traded company is to increase its value and get better
>how a business becomes better is by generating more profit

>With all this information I've decided to SHORT THE ENTIRE STOCK MARKET

GUYS IT WENT DOWN like 30% once or twice in a hundred years think a bout the gains and no risk!

IT HAS TO FAIL RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS ON THE BULL SIDE.

GUYS LETS ALL SHORT THE MARKET WOOPIE!

>>1191298
I'm not a predictive trader, I am purely reactive and do not conclude bullishly nor bearishly based on analyses. However, based on your analysis, what I can conclude that you are an idiot.

>>1191029
I think it will be, we are due for a huge collapse.

>>1191117
No, the monetary policy faucet is empty. They can cut interest rates to negative like Japan did, but ultimately it won't make much difference. They've been inflating the QE bubble for 6 years and it's hard to undo that

>>1191142

(OP HERE)

I've been listening to guys say it for years too.
(Broken clock is right twice a day...)

All I'm saying is that the outlook is at very best bleak. I'm not retiring for 30 years anyway. It's not going to hurt me one bit to sit it out for 6 months. On the other hand it may take 6 years to make back an 08' size dent in my stash.

-Student debt bubble
-Auto loans bubble
-Never really fixed housing
-Actual unemployment
-Election

This is much different than 08'. The FED had some tools back then (lower interest rates, print)

Interest rates are already effectively zero.
Already tried the QE trick 1,2,3, 4 how many times?

They have no tools left to "fix" with.

>>1191545
This
you can only borrow money into existence for so long before the whole system comes crashing down.

>>1191557
Yeah and every QE trick is exponentially bigger than the previous one so eventually you hit a point where it has zero effect

>>1191025
smart move I think.

>>1191639
(op here)

I had some money back in 08' to invest but I didn't understand how markets worked. Too scared when things crashed, just kept in bank.

Honestly I have a few dumb luck moves with crypto to thank for getting me interested in how markets actually work.

If we get even half way to an 08' style crash I'm jumping back in with both feet.

>>1191072
Exactly. Italian banks are failing as we speak and it may end up in a Greece type situation. Greece was the 44th largest economy in the world and almost sank the EU. Italy is the 8th largest

>>1191025
so short and buy a couple 2100 calls and sell for cheap

>>1191743
yeah I honestly believe the next collapse will be world wide

>>1191072

>>1191849

Gents,
Put a chatroom together..

Got almost 100 guys..
We're working together on picking stocks.

If you're an intermediate, we'd like to have you.
Just add your email and I'll invite you

>>1191383
I'd say you reactive conclusion of that anon is quite accurate.

>>1191072
dude, look at the volume!
it's retail investors holding this thing up.
the big boys already got out in January. I wouldn't be surprised if they are already positioned for the next drop.
>those sneaky guyssssss!

>>1191858
add plz. i have 2 yrs of experience trading futures, options, and stocks. been following the markets since 2003
stockpicker@sharklasers.com

sigh I could write a whole paper on this subject but I do think OP is right. It's going down and it's going down hard.

Just make sure you have some cash because if it crashes and we buy the right stocks we can buy ourselves houses in 5 years

>>1191545

Don't forget how negative interest rates lead to a huge run on banks with people pulling there money out.

That's a big epidemic right now in Japan.

Isn't there a discord channel somewhere?