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I think we were the last generation that knew about data and government surveillance and were born before it become normal, everyone that was born after 2008 will grow thinking its normal to give every kind of data of your life to a 3rd party or to government. Childrens doesnt get a toy, they get an tablet/cellphone even if they are below 10 years old. They grow up thinking that is trully safe to use GPS and give all your personal information and even confidential information (naked photos, secrets, confessions) in the hands of 3rd partys such as g00gle, faceb00k, instagr4m and many others. They already see as normal, they dont care to use a device that saves every place they go, that send every possible data to a unknown server with unknown interests and that they could live with that technology.

This "Thots reports to IRS" show that society is colapsing, people clearly prefer to side with state, that were built to assure the interests and majority safety but clearly dont do that, than to side with their own community. I mean, nothing change my mind that this could be a plan of another group that used the imageboards plataform to spread the idea, they already put the blame on us at the same time that will just enforce divisions and fight amongst each other that is something that "they" profit from. They did a great strike that created paranoia, adversity and at the same time gave a bad view of imageboards users to outsiders that think that everyone here is a "nazi, incel, school shooter".
We are the last ones that can try some social mobility as the 4th industrial revolution already happened, all the "arithmetic professions" will be obsolete leading to more poverty and less chances of social mobility, people will need to submit themselves to tasks that will be below automatization tier as the only reason to let people do that tasks its if they cost less than machines purchase/repair.
Its worse than feudalism, we are living in a slavery that brainwash people.

>> No.11908117

>>11908068
i liked your post anon but you fucked up here

>This "Thots reports to IRS" show that society is colapsing

thots are not "people". if people can actually make 30% reporting them, im all for it. who do they think they are spreading degeneracy and not paying tax on top of it. fucking low life parasite whores. fuck em

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People say crypto is a ponzi scheme, but what about society?

We live in a ponzi scheme where they sell the idea that we are free, that there is justice, that the opportunities are fair at the same time what happens is the opposite.
We are fooled to think we can trust the financial system, how can we trust something when the ones that rule it can print cash just because they can and we have to kill and die for it? How can we support a system that is so fucking degenerate that people can earn more with usury than with really creating final goods to society?

The real ponzi scheme is what they sell to us as "society", they pretend its everything fair, that justice exists and that there is meritocracy.

>>11908117
Ok, thots have to pay taxes because everyone else pays, I agree with that and this is a solid argument. But think for a second...
It's really safe to live in a society that they can really get all your life data and use it against you at any time? I mean, if we lived in a fair society that would make sense, but nowadays it's like: if you are with us then its all fine, if you arent then you are fucked.

Some anon researched, its not like what you say, there is a lot of requirements to receive the 30%, the majority of reports with just basic information wont give you acess to that 30%, this is another lie to use people greedy against each other.
Imagine if the rest of society start to think:
-Those guys did a lot of transactions through crypto, they need to pay tax!
Then every kind of transaction you already did get audited than taxed, even if you lost cash already, its a ponzi scheme where the only one that win is the "Big State" that is same as "They".

I mean, are we doing that because we want or are we doing that because we are being fooled and induced to?

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>> No.11908418

>>11908068
nope, there will always be smart people that know better than posting all their data on the internet. Dumb people on the other hand will always do dumb shit

>> No.11908428

>>11908418
based and kekd

>> No.11908456

>>11908418
There is no such thing as "smart people" know. People will use it on their teen/child years, that means they can already have their confidential data in 3rd party hands, even if they learn when they are new adults that wont change the fact that pre puberty years they already had some confidential info leaked and on their hands.

Tell me, what teenager doesnt have f4ceb00k, IG and e-mail nowadays.

You are talking like to be one of us was normal, even on our atmosphere it wasnt, we are less than 3% of normal population.

>> No.11908492

>>11908456
i used a fake name for my facebook from when i was a teenager and also my email has no true personal information except for my burner cellphone incase of emergencies (lost password for example)
because im not a fucking retard and i foresaw this future

>> No.11908508

>>11908492
You aint the new generation that was born with a cellphone on their hands.

>> No.11908519

>>11908508
Vai tomar no cu, favelado do caralho.

>> No.11908526

>>11908068
Why aren't you recording yourself fucking Brazillian sluts and then putting it on xvideos/xhamster private channel? Easiest money a guy like you could make

>> No.11908538

>>11908068
>Its worse than feudalism, we are living in a slavery that brainwash people.

My guess is there will be backlash against these industries that are harvesting our data and making money off of us.

It already started in Europe with the GDPR. Google and Facebook are having to completely revamp their platforms due to regulations over there. The United States at some point may follow suit.

If you believe that there will/should be backlash against these companies/government taking are personal data and using it for their own use, invest in privacy, like Monero or Basic Attention Token. The fact that we're all using 4chan rather than Reddit shows we all care to some extent about anonymity and privacy.

>> No.11908545

>>11908418
this, I never made a social media account on the ealy suspicion they'd abuse my privacy and data, some 8 years later and it turns out I was right.

Favelanon, you're making the assumption that people CAN BE PROTECTED from their own sutpidity and many in history have perceived this to be able, but time and time again are proven wrong. On top of this, most people simply don't care. It isn't just this orwellian state thats to blame. Its the people who react to and act in this orwellian state that also counts. This is the age of information, everything you want to know is within grasps. If people cared, they'd have an appetite to research and learn. But they don't. In this time, its so easy to voice an opinion but the problem is that most people don't have an opinion but they do have a desire to be heard, to be seen and given attention. So they have backwards logic defying over 2000 years of western philosophy and as a culture we then decide to give these people attention.

My advice, just tend to yourself and anyone who takes initiative out of his/her own curiosity. All others are hopless cases that you can only pray for will some day look back, reflect and decide to change things.

>> No.11908555

Society is fucked and it always has been, it will always remain so.

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>>11908068
Fuck you, thots must pay.

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>>11908555
checked

>> No.11908762

>>11908519
Vai te foder, filho da puta!
>>11908526
Easy money.. lol
Then I never get a good job or reputation because I'll be seen as a porn actor.

>> No.11908774

>>11908538
My point is simple, we are already seen as incel autists that are outsiders from society and Nazi, that means nobody that have a normal mind will even hear what we say.

>> No.11908777

>>11908545
this. you cannot help those that do not want to be helped/refuse to accept that they need it.

>> No.11908795

>>11908545
>>11908777
Lol
Your ID means OP Choser or OP Loser, we will never know.

Childrens have to be protected, such as any animal puppie that doesnt understand anything. People like us that have the intent to gather, search and discover new thing need to protect those that wasnt blessed with that skill/talent.

>> No.11908937

>>11908795
Sorry but that doesn't happen in the laws of nature. Look at your shithole favelas and the behaviors in them. I don't see any well off citizens in brazil coming and handing you niggers food or building houses. OP LOSER

>> No.11908971

>>11908937
Bro, I'm a volunteer in a NGO, its the biggest one in São Paulo and probably the biggest on Brazil.
They are associated with the "Salesians", I dont care to the people that doesnt help.. I do.

Its all I care: I do.

There is no such thing as nature law, we go against it.

>> No.11908981

>>11908068
I think most people don't give a fuck about privacy but smart people always will. There is definately a global counterculture to surveliance. Normies will always be normies and not care, but people like us will always try to jam up the surveliance machine with things like NoScript, VPNs, etc.

>> No.11909003

>>11908981
My point is that people will see it as normal, as a daily trusted part of their lifes, they will grow up using all tech and all plataforms and will never see it as shady.

It's like the ponzi scheme of graduations that people do thinking they will get a job for sure.

>> No.11909011

>>11908937
Also, if to be different is to be a Loser and I choose to be one.

>> No.11909014

>>11908068
>trully safe to use GPS

Fun fact: getting GPS position data is actually safe. "Receive only".

It's apps using that data (GoogleMaps, Facebook, whatever) that collects, processes, sells.

>> No.11909022

>>11908068
I thought you were leaving....

>> No.11909034

>>11908795
>Childrens have to be protected
Thats the parents job, not mine or yours.
you can‘t protect stupid people from themselves, they will always find a way to get fucked up, you can try and teach them but in the end its their decision.

>Tell me, what teenager doesnt have f4ceb00k, IG and e-mail nowadays.
and whats the problem with that? It all depends on the content and the content will decide over the consequences.

>> No.11909065

>>11909022
I got a new task to do, stay on the net doing it.

>>11909034
>Thats the parents job, not mine or yours.
you can‘t protect stupid people from themselves, they will always find a way to get fucked up, you can try and teach them but in the end its their decision.

Every child needs to be protected, the reason of that is because every child is a potential messiah, they have all the potential to become anything possible, this is the reason to protect children, they are all the possible hope to a better reality.

>cant protect stupid people
For sure we cant, but we can put a protection on the Knife so people wont get cut with it on the first touch.

>> No.11909091

>>11909065
>I got a new task to do, stay on the net doing it.
Was not aware the internet was necessary for dick sucking...

>> No.11909119

>>11909091
For sure it is, what you think your momma do to pay your medications?

>> No.11909161

>>11909065
>the reason of that is because every child is a potential messiah
no not really, most of their success already decides in the womb because of genetics, the kid of two sub 70IQ somalis is likely gonna be a dumbass and completely useless.

>but we can put a protection on the Knife so people wont get cut with it on the first touch
and here is where the real problems come in, in order to protect the retards you have to invent new laws, laws that will limit the rights of the rest and which can be exploited to destroy freedom.

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>>11908068

Yeah man, I've been shouting about the 1984 has been all over /biz/. And because of 4chan reporting thots to the taxman became a thing in Finland also.

War is peace
Ignorance is bliss
Freedom is slavery

>> No.11909201

>>11909119
>your medications
"Here your medications sirs."

>> No.11909221

>>11909161
The kid of 2 70IQ can still be a messiah, it doesnt change, there is always some chance.

>> No.11909242

>>11908762
Are you dumb? Your face is not in the shoot

>> No.11909249

>>11909221
nope

>> No.11909298

>>11909242
Bro, I have some specific body traits that can easily be spotted if someone know me.
>>11909249
Yup.
Even Hitler was nothing until his 30,

>> No.11909604

>>11908603

These two are not virgins.

>> No.11909607

everyone on this board hates you because you're a begging faggot who can never be told anything. You've been told the same thing over and over and still you tout your retarded perspective. fuck off nigger.

>> No.11909626

>>11909604
How can you expect something different..
>>11909607
There are guys who doesnt hate me.

>> No.11909651

>>11909298
>Even Hitler was nothing until his 30
What a shit comparsion, good luck expecting the next hitler to come from double digit IQ retards that shit in the street, better do everything to protect those precious nigger children because one day they all gonna be lawyers, doctors and scientists.

Better give up more of your rights so the nigger children are safe.

>> No.11909672

This board is all but anonymous nor private
The only difference is you don't have a name here. All your data and posts are archived mined and processed. What did you think captcha is?

>> No.11909690

>>11909651
The only one doing shit comparison its you. Good luck into pretending the only ones that can do something in this cursed world are "muh arians".
>>11909672
The real question is
When ourselves are the product who get paid?

>> No.11909732

>>11909690
Then why are you brazil niggers living in a shithole?
Where is all the messiah niggers?

Of course a nigger like you would deny the logic of eugenics, because if that would be enforced you would be one of the first to go.

>> No.11909778

>>11909732
We are living because the usury faggots like you ripped our country, all our rich resources are into europe nowadays, everything here was expoliated to send funds to the crown mother aka Europe.
We are living in a shithole because you fucked sickos came here and put all your puppets to enslave us all through usury and money enslavement, we dont even have acess to our country resources because you faggots took control of it and faked we are free.

We are being fucked by hundred of years you sicko usury faggots that enslave others and put the blame on us, brazilian gold its on europe, brazilian richness is into europe.

Give us that back, your antecessors expoliated us and now you think you are a saint.

Fuck off usury faggot

>> No.11909821

>>11909778
Typical nigger blaming everyone else but truth is your country is full of mixed race niggers who thought it would be a good idea to breed with the tribal niggers in the jungle.
Now you sit here with your sub 80 IQ and can‘t figure out how the world works.
Many such cases, sad!

But I heard you guys got a new monkey at the top, he will whip you into shape to be more productive and feed the IMF some more.

>> No.11909937

>>11909821
For sure!

He will sell everything to foreigners and we stay with the shit that is left :)

>> No.11910029

>>11909937
>:)
you sound butthurt, but you should be glad that you don‘t have a communist or socialist faggot at the top.

>> No.11910125

Most people just don't care, even literal boomers that are all highly educated fall into the "lol I have nothing to hide" mantra, it's not like they're oblivious to it. They'd lose their minds if the government decided to bug their house directly, but put an amazon logo on it and make it tell jokes on demand and no one is even fazed by it. In time I think the only way to maintain privacy will be to separate from screens entirely, if it's not here already, and a lot of future wealth will go towards blanking yourself from surveillance systems.

>> No.11910423

>>11909651
lmao, hitler *was* a double digit retard, he was such an incopetent cunt thatr towards the end of the war the allies were blocking assassination attempts because literally anyone else off the street would have done a better job.

>> No.11910461

>>11910423
If you unironically believe that you are the double digit man.

>> No.11910498

>>11910461
This is a new cope I had never seen.

Thanks!

>> No.11910598

>>11908068

Separate and divide anon.

>> No.11910601

>>11908068
society collapsing because
people clearly prefer to side with state rather than thots
No one reports cute virgin puritan women
State created thots in the first place, it should clean up it's mess.

>> No.11910681

I've read every post in this thread and have learned only that Favelanon is a huge fucking pseudointellectual. Fucking tripfags.

>> No.11910797

>>11908538
That's not what's happened here with GDPR favelanon. All we get is an accept button on each website we click on or the option to sift through a mire of shit (pages of jargon and warnings) to deselect our data being mined. I do it but I know for a fact that normies will just click accept. It is heavily weighted to favour the data miner in terms of one click acceptance.

>> No.11910823

>>11910681
Wut?
>>11910601
If you prefer to side with state and with "they" this is already a proof you dont care to society but just yourself.
>>11910797
My point is that the surveillance is too big. Games like PokemonGo can get data from many places that usually would never be acessed. People think its right and that all this surveillance is a good thing.

Have you seen the "Chinese social system"? You have a score like credit one, but with your social past...
Use 4 chan get negative
Dont follow their agenda get negative
Try to get outsider knowledge get negative
Talk to non normies get negative

See what is happening on China.

>> No.11910954

>>11910823
I was not disagreeing with you. I just don't want you to idolise us for getting it right. It is complete lip service the current GDPR rules but ((they)) sit round wanking each other off saying they are doing the right thing by the consumer by "giving them the opportunity to opt out of mass surveillance". Maybe all Europe/GB has is better spindoctors and a weaker populace.
>UK waiting lists for GP (doctor) now under 24 hours.
>no one waits more than 24 hours fr an appointment.
>all they did was change booking system.
>now you have to ring on the day to get an appointment and so does everyone else.
>"thanks for calling you are 56 in queue" all vying for an appointment that day.
>if none are left then you don't see doctor that day.
>waiting time stats stay down as you are technically not on a waiting list and have to try again tomorrow.
>people waiting literally months to get an appointment get recorded statistically as waiting under 24hrs as when they finally make the waiting list the appointment is that day.
All is not well in UK.

>> No.11911070

>>11910954
U know that just one brazilian state is the same size as UK, right?

>> No.11911103

>>11908538
Google is designing China's social credit system tho

>> No.11911110

>>11910954
Well it's because you shitheads let gubment cut docs salaries into oblivion.
I'm a doc in a Eastern Europe and UK salaries are not even attractive for me to consider.
Now you can choose between Dr.nigger and Dr.Pajeet, with pajeets not being inherently stupid, but they do not give a flying fuck about some white person to treat.

>> No.11911121

>>11911103
Shit will become like the futuristic movies.
>>11911110
Have you loss any patient because their healthcare won't afford the costs?

>> No.11911189

>>11911121
Where I'm from we topped the European rankings in healthcare accessibility along with Switzerland.
Doc has to do everything, big pharma doesn't.
Everyone trying to see, is good and will get the exam and any necessary diagnostic imaging studies ...well treatment, that's another thing. Insurance won;t cover you and cost in comparison to income is slowly becoming more and more devastating, reaching the US tier.

>> No.11911214

>>11911110
Come on, for fucks sake. We didn't let them do anything. Same way you shitheads in the east didn't let your governments keep you full blown shit for dinner poor. It already happened.

>> No.11911249

>>11911189
I was going to study to be a doctor here in Brazil, its a elite class, even so I had grades to do it.

Then I saw the public healthcare, people die because no resources and I changed my mind.

Its good to know atleast you can really be a doctor there.

>> No.11911340

>>11911249
Fav if you weren't inspired by this realisation then you would have hated being a doctor tbqhfam.

>> No.11911547

>>11911340
Bro, I have lost my best friend, my cousin and a lot of loved ones because of corruption and lack of healthcare, I can assure you I changed my mind so maybe I can help more people than if I were a doctor.

>> No.11911698

Teaching a bunch of kids to bend to the will of a corporation or the state will create a lot of bad people. Spying on your neighbor leads to a cutthroat environment.

Maybe that girl needed the money and now the state is taking it. If you prefer the state over the individual then you are buying into a system. Systems are completely devoid of emotion and sometmes responsibility. You could be supporting eachother as humans. The need for privacy is a human need. Getting into a flame war online is completely retarded, so is using personal information to target people. It should be illegal.

>> No.11911933

>>11911698
The sad part is that people prey people when the real enemy get the profit.

>> No.11912701

Bump test

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>>11908068
Is our generation the greatest generation?

Yes. /thread

>> No.11913683

It doesn't matter how much you protect your own anonymity when the vast, vast majority of society just rolls with it. We will eventually be cast from that very society which caters to the majority. For example look at Sweden, where everybody and their mom uses only credit/debit. Many stores there apparently don't even accept cash. Seriously unless you want to go live innawoods like some Robinson Crusoe, you're screwed too. Society is the ultimate cuckening

>> No.11913733

>>11913683
That is my point
First is the thots because its funny
Then its tax evasors because its funny
Then it anyone else because its funny
Now it was me, but as there was no one else to laugh the only smile was from "they".

>> No.11913760

>>11909778
Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger. Brazil would not exist AT ALL except for the Europeans who created it in the first place.

Thank your god that they were nice enough to cut your shithole loose. Brazil has an enormous amount of natural resources to tap, and it is only the corruption inherent to shitskins like you that prevents it from doing well.

>> No.11913820

>>11908068
Just dont post all your personal info online or have online profiles and people wont harass you. The thots like post screenshots of the money they make, show off their vacations, all their donations are like publicly viewed on their streams. If bored people online want to report them, then they will.

I think this should show people just how dangerous a bored society is. Fuck, I wish I could remember what book allegedly predicted the random extreme acts of violence by bored youths just doing things to do them.

For real though, the majority of people will side with the state against you if they can get some money or take something away from you. Not sure why, most people are just bitter failures.

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>>11908117
>im a beta faggot and hotties wouldnt suck my peepee

>> No.11913860

>>11908117
I can tell you're a frustrated virgin, anon. There is nothing wrong with what they're doing. They're providing a service and there are people who are willing to pay for it.

So you're saying that

>porn shouldn't be a thing
>we should pay more taxes to corrupt governments

What are you, some kind of muslim commie?

>> No.11913862

>>11908068
this generation is lost anon - learn assembler, go underground to survive upcoming great purge.

>> No.11914022

>>11913760
MOMMY HE POSTED AGAIN!
I PREPPIE BOY MY ASS PINKIE!
THE FAVELANON MADE MY ASS STINKY!
I"M GONNA PUT THE DILDO IN MY TINKIE WINKIE
MOMMA COME FAST BRING MY MILKKY
I WANT IT NOW AND WANT SOME PEE PEE

>> No.11914036

>>11913860
>>11913839
He is just crazy, another anon already posted that just some specific criteria can earn that 30%, but the anons want to get greedy and blind because "muh 30%".

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>>11908068
All saved. You hit the nail on the head OP, the sad depressing nail burying itself in the coffin of civilization.

>> No.11914797

>>11914737
You gave me a different feeling with that photo.
I dont know if is the atmosphere or just the moment.

A really strange feeling

>> No.11914988

>>11914737
why is this picture not mentioning anything about the 13 families?