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Temperature is much more important for growth than sunlight, so global warming means there'll be more crop growth than ever.

>>11773157
Either rising C02 levels will stabilize the temperature as it competes against lower levels of sunlight, or it will have the inverse effect of further cooling things down, since a thicker atmosphere is harder to warm up just as much as it is hard to cooldown.

>>11773075
Idk about the solar minimum but hydroponics is certainly on the up, aeroponics is just getting started too. Startup urban microgreens and mushroom farming to supply restaurants/small stores is beginning to trend. Yesterday there was also a honey thread where it was pretty much agreed thst the price will continue to increase (10%+ annually so far) thanks to bees dying off, and also that Ambrosus could be useful small investment maybe by end of 2019 thanks to EU regulations. Actually even as a farmer myself, there's not really much I can advise that is 100% solid potential, even our season to season profits is very risky business

>>11773269
If you're a farmer you should definitely looking into the solar minimum. Whether or not global warming is going to heavily impact the environment quickly may be debatable, but it's a fact that solar cycles is a thing, and we may be entering a particular low one.

The end is nigh anons - tipping point was 8 years ago - nothing we can do.

>>11773157
Geoengineering (based on silver iodine) is harmful to soil bacteria, so the only things that will grow in the future are in heavily fertilized fields. That means diminished sources of produce and increased centralization, which will lead to higher prices.

You're also not taking into account the fact that the climate is already in the throes of self-sustaining methane feedback loops, which will increase droughts and again diminish produce output.

The future of food is fucked and hydroponics/aeroponics/aquaponics are the only way forward if we're to survive as a species. Bonus points for the fact that all of the above technologies will be used to feed space colonies

>>11773193
You're not taking runaway climate change due to methane feedback loops into account

So what are some ticker symbols that deal in hydroponics?

>>11773269
Nice fields brah, is this DE? Good point about the bees, hope you aren't using neonicotinoids and glyphosate on your stuff.

I've got a pretty good recipe for mites, pests and tobacco mosaic virii, put 1 shotglass of milk, half a teaspoon of olive oil and 2 drops of ecological dishwater soap per litre of water and spray it on a small patch of plants, it works like a charm.

I base it on the classic indian recipe for neem oil, but olive oil is cheaper. Also, certain milk proteins have been found to deactivate TMV cells. Olive oil has a lot of polyphenols (similar to neem) that make it inedible to insects.

It's a two in one combo and I think the plants are also using some of the nutrients in the milk like a spray on fertilizer. Try it out, it works well and sprays well enough. You just need to clean your equipment with vinegar water afterwards cause it can gunk shit up.

>>11774097
Thanks, I'll try out on some batches and leave a control group to test. Yep to being in DE, I love it here. Nope to the glysophates or any kind of pesticides/herbicides/modern fertilizers (only what we can compost from leftovers and cow shit), fully 100% biodynamic, yeah the yield is fucking bad compared to modern farms but our soil quality is fantastic. Imho the biggest problems with this is cabbage caterpillars, little bastards affect 100% of all the crop, most are ok but we lose a lot of sale weight from peeling off the eaten leaves. Gonna try a whole lot of netting over them next time

>>11774022
Well if what you said here
>>11774010
Is true, then it should still be a good investment. Either we freeze, poison our soil, or can't adapt quick enough to a warming climate to farm properly.

>>11774195
You da man bro, keep fighting the good fight. This fucking weather lately is perfect for the butterflies, we have caterpilar problems too in GR. I knew you were DE from those treelines, seen them once on a trip and I think they're very characteristic of your country.

>>11774232
I was agreeing with you, hydro and aero are a MUST for the future. I'm partial to aquaponics myself, but haven't actually tried them desu. I just use homemade compost desu, but I'm hoping to get into aqua in the future

>>11773075
DYOR your lazy fart!
Buy chanlink

>>11773157
Too bad global warming isn't happening. Look up maunder minimum, we're going through a mini ice age next several decades

ive got extensive insight into this field of study....give me a bit and ill elucidate y'all on what ive concluded. Pro tip: neither hydroponics or aquaonics is the answer..., but I do have the answer to your maunder minimum concerns.

t. OG delphi

>>11775894
Do enlighten.

>>11775894
All ears

>>11775923
>>11776005
give me an hours frens…

long story short, method intensive not till soil based production in passave active solar walipini style greenhouses is the answer. I have specific mods to these systems I will further explain in a bit. Smart design is the key. Ill go on further In an hour when im free.

Hydroponics is lame. Too much input too produce results, so finicky if any equipment malfunctions. If you are going to grow anything use organic no till. Grow a living soil web and your plants will be happier and taste better. After a while you hardly need any work our inputs. I consult in mj and food production and make bank off all the problems hydro causes. It's meme shit, fast growth and looks aren't worth sacrificing taste and reliability. So much water gets water and so many dollars get wasted buying chelated poop. Unless you are trying to grow on a spaceship it is just an overpriced meme garden.

>>11776108
This guy gets it. Hydro is too prone to catastrophe, labor intensive, and unsustainable financially. Permaculture, even if just borrowing some aspects, is important to study if considering plant production as a career.

>>11773075
I've tried nearly every method and growing on deepwater culture is the best.

Gives me the best results with the least amount of work.

>>11776654
It's also called a raft system

>>11776544
>>11776608
How exactly do I invest in that to make money?
>>11776654
>>11776720
Same with you.

>>11776544
>>11776608
That's because you suck at Hydro. No "catastrophes", fast, delicious, lush growth, less work, lower costs.
t. Hydro Master for 14 years

>>11776608
Permaculture is super cool. I highly recommend Mark Sheppard's lectures (well any one on youtube will do because thye're all the same and he's /biz/ tier rather than some liberal faggotry like most permaculture commies)

>>11776981
My buddy had a commerical hydroponic farm in Florida. Like any ag enterprise, marketing is the toughest part.