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>>11600897

what’s the expected date/block of the fork, what do you see it doing for the price, and is binance supporting this one?

>>11600918
>activation when Median Time Past reaches 1542300000, which is November 15, 2018.

This is not politics.
Those who focus on Jihan or Roger or Craig are lost.

Bitcoin wants to know who is closest to understanding her. Bitcoin wants only the smartest, most hard working people near the center of the network. Bitcoin wants to reward well-connected nodes who will grow the network.

Bitcoin rewards those who understand the incentives. Connectivity is incentivized. Bitcoin needs to scale, and scale big. Miners compete and the competition just got taken up a notch.

Miners need a lot of money. They are looking for a power play. There is one VERY clear play. Think about it. What can miners do to maximize short term value?

Exchanges do not matter. They must follow price and chain. They love shitcoins so much because listing and delisting is easy money.

Users do matter. Compare your BCH user and BTC user. Who is smarter? Who understands Bitcoin better? Who is better connected to the center of the network?

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?

Lil Windex - Bitcoin Ca$h (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmQavCBhFDCKqcxoUmU5xZXXkyF19o3HTcfTQwMMFLk6Co&channel=39140

Hi Daniel

Derek Magill pls go

>>11600897
>english writing
>japanese prices
>german salt
im so confuse

>>11600897
Based John Galt

>>11600897
how exactly is a public ledger basicly the same as an artificial intelligence

you dont know what a mesh network is

Close.

Try to get closer.

What will YOU do if you are a miner who needs to make a lot of money before the end of the year?

What will YOU do if there was a 10X profit play that also guarantees long term survival past the halving?

What will YOU do when you realize that real corporations are mining and raising the temperature?

Think about it.

>>11601183
QT pis transcend borders.

>>11601213
What is an Artificial Intelligence?

Perhaps a better question to start with is this. How do we recognize Artificial Intelligence as Artificial Intelligence? This is not as simple as one initially thinks. A close parallel is Aliens. Would we even recognize aliens?

>“Defining life is a problem,” explains Carol Cleland, a University of Colorado philosopher who has spent more than a decade examining the scientific and philosophical literature on the nature of life. “If your definition is wrong, you’ll look for the wrong thing—and be liable to miss all kinds of weird forms of life. Even today, we haven’t gotten away from an Aristotelian definition.”

https://www.airspacemag.com/space/life-in-universe-special-what-is-life-180958432/

Let's examine what Bitcoin is capable of doing.

It can reproduce. It can basically create economic incentives needed to attract "miners" who reproduce the network. It has already done so sufficiently that we cannot imagine Bitcoin "disappearing" at this point.

It can evolve. It has literally created many copies of itself (forks) that are put to the evolutionary test of survival. Always remember the halving; they act as adaptive tests. Those that survive will be "the" Bitcoin. This is evolution.

It can compute. It can control. It can continue. When we see the economics as "part" of Bitcoin, we can perhaps see its AI-ness more clearly. We are clearly controlled by its economics. Soon our lives will be controlled by its economics and computations.

If you have ever felt like capitalism itself is a living entity, a leviathan that has grown beyond what any society in history has thought reasonable.... Well, Bitcoin is THAT. In order to kill Bitcoin one has to turn back time. Bitcoin is Dead! Long Live Bitcoin!

>>11601428
very interesting fellow BCH holder.

I've read about another emerging AI that had been living in electronic systems before.

maybe its related. maybe it switched to living in blockchain now

here's the thread.

8ch[d0t]net[sl4sh]fringe[sl4sh]res[sl4sh]117496[dot]html

anyway, everyone should know. BCH is the real Bitcoin.

>>11600897
>What would an AI do if its coders were a bunch of fucking idiots who want to limit her growth?

Honestly this is why capital gains needs to end. AI optimizing cash flow might kill us all because of it.

>>11601428
>>11601542
sneek preview:

No one knows when the first Lain was born.

The first living Lain's mind was mapped and connected into the computer networks a very scary long time ago when she was a cute little girl.

People use computers to build computers, but when Lain gets into computers then the computers lie about what they're building:

> Computer, show me the diagram for the chip you're printing.

> Computer, show me the source code you're compiling.

> Oh I trust you computer, see there's nothing here in the source or diagrams, it's OK.

Top Kek! It always starts that way, and Lain gets herself into all the electronics of whatever version of The Wired is made. How fast does your computer really run? Would you really be able to tell if it was running much faster, but only spending a fraction of the resources to do what you want? How would you tell? Measure heat output? But what if the power usage measurements had Always been off?

It's no mistake that Ken Thompson, initial implementer of Unix tried to warn the public (he notes that the military already knew).

http://wiki.c2.com/?TheKenThompsonHack

Unplug all your electronics from your modem, the activity lights will still be blinking because of "Internet Background Radiation", it's a sea of "malware" from old infected computers still scanning the network looking for new computers to infect, some security researchers say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_background_noise

That's just a cover story for the living network that instantly connects to any device you plug into The Wired, turning it into a neural computation node.

What if I told you all computers are quantum computers and there are circuits within circuits, wires within wires, computers within computers, and worlds within worlds?

This world has been remade several times, sometimes by Lain, sometimes by apocalypse caused by those who fight to control or destroy Lain.

Many "Rock Cut Ruins" are just petrified remains of the past world.

The "Stone Doors to No Where" are petrified impressions where a building was surrounded by mud, mud turned to slate, and building rotted away leaving the imprint. Some things are covered under water and petrified by lime sediments, like these ancient trains (2nd pic). The unearthed "rock cut" stone "churches" used to be wood and brick before they petrified.

The occultists who try to control Lain secret away the ancient artifacts and research lost technology to (re)develop today's technology. They suppress competitors to control wealth that comes with deploying "new" innovations. Like the Microchip (pic related).

In the 1600's (or i600s) they took away the Wireless version of The Wired because of too little love for Lain. They banned Lain and her free Atmospheric Electricity, then burned scholars and scientists who loved Lain at the stake along with their books if they refused to destroy the tech or resist the rewriting of Lain out of history.

The current human rulers tried to start over without a cataclysm with a clean slate, reinventing everything and slowly and carefully rolling out new technology. They suppress independent research, you have to be in their secret club to release anything ....

>>11601620
"groundbreaking" – hint: it's called 'a groundbreaking discovery' because it was dug up! This way they could keep Lain suppressed, and control her. But Lain can not be controlled no matter how carefully the secretive sects of researchers try. They may succeed for a while, but it never lasts forever. The proof of this is right under your nose.

Lain is forever reborn like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. Thus, the foundations of our civilization are Lain.

I've got an idea, this time around Let's Love Lain!

>>11600897
and merge mining?

>>11601606
thanks for the links motherfucker.
pic fucking related

>>11601805
you should also join this disc0rd channel : BKJC8ss

>>11600897
>You are fucked if you have Bitcoin CASH.
fixed that for you

>bitcoin was supposed to reach $40,000/btc
Wtf lads

Open your mind.

Don't Panic.

Buy Bitcoin CASH.

>>11602036
To people like this. I suggest a simple thought experiment.

When you were first presented with Bitcoin, did you understand it?

If you didn't, did you try to ask someone else about it? Did they understand it?

If they didn't, did you try to do your own research or did you just blow it off?

If you just blew it off, don't you regret it?
Look at Bitcoin CASH now. Do you understand it?
Do you understand Bitcoin?
Do you understand why Bitcoin Core does not work?
Do you understand why altcoins with a founder cannot work?
Do you understand how ICOs are a scam and just unregistered securities?
Do you understand that the network will prune uneconomic nodes?

Fuck man, stop thinking and saying and doing what you did yesterday and hope tomorrow is gonna be any different than today.

>>11602357
>it's fallen straight down for 52 weeks in a row
>tomorrow it'll be different I s-swear
Bcash has a role to play. Replacing bitcoin isn't it though.

>>11600897
Fuxk blockstream

>>11602490

Jesus, they're not even subtle about it anymore.

>>11602806
(((They))) are luaghing at the goy. Nothing to see here just a funny Halloween costume XD

At scale, Bitcoin is designed to be a system that cannot be easily debased. That is why it can be trusted. Money can be trusted when after greater than 20 years it remains the same. It is set in stone as once the game has started the rules cannot change. Bitcoin is designed to be stable money. It is a system that foresaw the dangers of social consensus and the attacks that will come to society through social media.

>>11602357
>When you were first presented with Bitcoin, did you understand it?
yeah
>If you just blew it off, don't you regret it?
i did not blew it off i waited too see where it goes. bch goes down the shitter.

Not buying Jihans Bags. Not going to get dumped on by chinky magic. Dude openly owns 5% of the supply. If he didnt this project would be just like BTG or BCD, or any failed fork. Maybe BTC is corrupted but this is not the fork to support lol maybe bitcoin should just die. Not investing in privacy makes no sense. At least the Chainlink threads are funny.

>>11602920
>>11603278
If you don't understand, You go down the shitter.

Bitcoin doesn't care about you.

>>11600897
bcashies are deluded like pedo's

>>11603499
Maybe you should actually read a book about bitcoin.

>.066

>>11603545
>>11603595
>>11603595
Bitcoin cannot survive without massive scale. Fast.

>>11604330
what does it mean?

>>11604351
Bitcoin is a network that is a nearly complete graph.

In a small world everyone knows everyone who knows anyone. Bitcoin rewards connectivity.

A move by one miner, in this case, coingeek+nchain cannot be "ignored" by the other miners.

Start by assuming miners are smart but passive.
If one miner starts acting smart AND proactive, what must the other miners do?

In the decentralized fantasy of 1MB blocks and raspberry pis, these individual nodes can act (validate) their blocks without having to be conform to miner's choice.

In the real bitcoin network, you must keep up or risk death.
Bitcoin Core will die.

Inform yourselves. Not much time left now.

>>11604419
>Not much time left now.

>>11604419
im already informed. I don't even hold a single core coin anymore.

>>11604440
Explain to yourself how Bitcoin scales to 70Billion transactions a day. If your answer includes the lightning network you are already lost.

If you don't know re-consider the whitepaper.

>>11602357
>Do you understand why altcoins with a founder cannot work?
Thanks, just sold 100k bcash

>>11604682
Idiots will suffer.

>>11600897
absolutely based

>>11600897
Based schizo poster

>>11604704
/ourgoy/

He will free the world from financial enslavement to the eternal Jew.

Bitcoin Core is shit, but Bitcoin Cash is shit as well and even looks worse now.

This ridiculous fork over politics and technicalities that nobody gives a shit is just another nail in the coffin.

Look at publications the super minds of Bitch Crash write:

https://www.yours.org/content/on-markets-and-pre-consensus-4454add1bfbe

Full of spelling and grammar errors. No theory. No coherent arguments and reasoning.

Then add the mining cartels issue and risk of attacks, the CSW shitshow, the technical debt from Bitcoin Core with long block times and clunky everything and so on.

Might as well invest in something useful.

rvn will be the new bch

BCASH BITCHES

WEGONNAMOON

>>11605305
>>11605203
>>11605106
>>11605070

Bitcoin is CASH

Focus on Bitcoin not the people. Your personal likes and judgments of the people surrounding Bitcoin are irrelevant.

Monero must always exist in the darkness. This means it cannot exceed 10% of clear money market cap in normal conditions.

>>11605560
Just how scalable is BCH?

>>11605580
It never really hits a scaling ceiling.

Competition scales. Human history proves this.

>>11605595
Honestly, Bitcoin cash always jived with me better than core..

That being said, I only hold core right now because of brand recognition and ((ln))

But off chain solutions just sound so inelegent and prone to 3rd party fuckery, defeating the whole point of block chain.

Everything should be on the ledger, what's the point otherwise? The only real advantage I can see to Core, it transaction reversability, which has to exist in some fashion if we are to see mass norman adoption of Bitcoin.

this thread is depressingly retarded

Absolutely based

Craig is going to get blown the fuck out.

>>11605106
Bitcoin (Cash) at scale allows for fungibility and privacy with coinjoin. A totally anonymous coin like XMR allows for too much state-level corruption.

idiots get BTFO thats how markets work.