/biz/ - Business & Finance

Will try and keep iy alive while i slave today. Any wagies, hang in there today!

>>11564244

>>11564273

>>11564278
Here is what the anons said about slumlording for 10k. After like a dozen anons kept asking how and no one knew. I guess anything is possible lol

Have a great productive day bionic

>>11564530
Thanks m8.
It ain't the job it's the people yknow? I would work even if I was rich if I could not be in public lol. Have a great day buddy

here to the anon who asked about the parking garage.
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So this is one of my very recent ventures and I actually have only had it for three months.

To give you an idea, I bought a pretty bare lot that already had asphalt on it that was right outside of the city center in my very small college town, that is really only there for said university and is also the state capital. I picked that spot because it's directly in between the university and downtown where the capital is. Not far from either and on the bus route.

My expenses so far have been:
>painting all the spots
>resurfacing parts of the asphalt
>fencing in the lot
>putting up a gate and payment system
>actually buying the land

I put 100k down on a 800k loan, 700 for the property and 100 for the expenses, of which I've only used a quarter so far.

I charge $2 an hour which is paid when the person leaves the gate. If they lose the ticket then its automatically $20.

>>11564299
If any 3D print fag happens by I'd like to ask for some advice. I want to get the Creality CR10 printer. It seems to be a good price and I've read very good reviews although customer support is lacking. My friend suggested that if I was serious about making this a business, I should go for a more expensive 2k model. I'm not sure I want to spend that much though it takes a lot of time to save that cash. Any suggestions on a good printer about 500 to 700 or should I just get the CR10? Any links/tips are also apprecaited. TIA

Say I make a website translating weebshit put up ads, an affiliate link or 2 would I risk getting my self banned from the affiliate and ad program depending on what I translate?

Would this idea be a waste of time or should I just go with a normal affiliate website.

>>11564806
how much cars fit in that parking garage?
is it outside or under the earth?

>>11564806
>2 an hour
Gna take a while before you break even lol

>>11564851
Just use degenerate ads like 4chan does. Problem solved.

>>11564230
>POS Systems
What does this involve? Selling & installing POS systems to small businesses?

>>11564816
Basically right now you've got 3 tiers of filament printers
>$0-180
>$210-360
>$1500+

>$0-180
It's literally all DIY no name chinkshit half clones of real printers, occasionally theres a decent one in the mix
You should avoid this zone unless you have no money or are already rather well versed in 3d printing
>$210-360
This is where the most hobby level printers hang out, everything from the monoprice mini to the CR-10
Its actually pretty hard to buy a bad printer from that range unless you over pay for chink shit
I would personally recommend either the Creality ender3, which according to /3dpg/ is the absolute meme machine of the year and you really wont find a better one outside of the CR-10(mostly for the bigger bed it actually doesnt have a lot of the features the ender does), or the MP mini2, it's small but you can catch it in sale for as low as $188 and it's as plug and play as possible in the hobby
>$1500+
This is "professional" quality printing, these are ultimakers and industrial machines
I can't really speak on these too much because I just run 2 ender's and a MP mini but overall the ultimakers are suppos to be some of the absolute best on the market despite their relatively small print beds

>>11564816
As far as your actual question goes
I would recommend the ender 3 unless you really need the extra 3 or so inches on the printing area
The ender 3 has a few more features(alt ough I have no idea what they are that's just what everyone that has both says), it's cheaper, and the community for it is larger so theres more mods available for sale or to print, it's also completely open source unlike most of the high dollar printers so you can buy any cheap replacement parts or use any free slicer software

Now I have a few questions/entg/
Last night my single person business plan turned into a 3 part partnership, I was initially against it but they ended up showing genuine interest and were 100% willing to put up cash on the spot to grab some specific specialty equipment so use decided to roll with it
Does anyone have any experience with LLCs? Is there a better structure for a small agricultural business? How do I shit test these guys to see if they're even actually for real? And how in the fuck do I do taxes for a business?

Need advice on dropshipping things online with image copyrights. Worried someone will sue us for using their images of the product for the purpose of online resale.

How do I go about setting up vending machines? Just ask local businesses if I can put one in there? How do I sell the idea to them?

>>11565638
>>11565687
Absolutely indebted to you sir thanks for the info. I would like to get an expensive printer later on but for now I'll take your advice and look into the printer you suggested thanks a mil.
>>11565766
Checked
No experience with llcs but definitely you will need to draw up contracts even if you really trust these guys. Talk to a small biz lawyer if possible unless you have a lawyer already. Look online and do some research because sometimes you can find these guys to council you initially for free if your city has a program. I vaguely remember coming across this in my research 2 years ago. Taxes you can get QuickBooks, or an accountant. You may even be able to pirate QuickBooks online. I knownwhat have an app that walk you through things. LLC you will have to go through your city and file papers and pay a fee. Pretty steep if you're in CA. But like 100 bucks in other states. Hope it helps somewhat. Thanks agaiin

>>11565804
Do you mean that the pictures OF the items are copyrighted or do you mean that the items contain copyrighted images (IE band t-shirts etc).

I've been selling copies of some copyrighted/trademarked items for years. Other things of equal character have been taken down within a week (on ebay). It all depends on how strictly a certain brand enforce their rights.

>>11565804
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/establishment-let-put-up-vending-machine-20422.html

http://www.healthyvending.com/guides/how-to-start-a-vending-machine-business/

https://foodtruckempire.com/how-to/the-pitch/

Here are some links since have no experience. Be wary of people trying to sell you guides and stuff. Maybe there are forums too. Try these first. They're just a few google searched results.

As those threads are the only thing of value on this board, I'd like to share/get some feedback on a couple of ideas I had.

I have a nice and warm rent free storage space of about 60m2. My plan is to fill this space with shit and make a relative who happens to live nearby and is unemployed to take care of preparing/shipping orders. For that reason I am searching for items for resale that are relatively high-priced and do not need a lot of space.
I am not trying to become rich, I just want to make money on the side and yeah... basically make 50k for a WRX Sti.

My gf thinks selling seeds and shit is a nice idea, while I agree as urban gardening is booming, I am not convinced in the work that is involved in that aka sending thousands of letters with seeds for the sake of making a couple of cents per order.
My initial idea was mtg displays and boosters. I am not keen opening packs in order to sell the nice cards individually, but from what I can tell the competition (here in Germany) seems to be pretty strong. Apparently it has to make enough money to maintain a lot games stores and should as a result be profitable without a store and personel to run, I kind of doubt though that it is worth the effort.
My second idea is customizing chucks, have unknown artists / art students create unique designs in limited quantaties like once per size or something like that and sell those for 300€+. I found that there are several shops online doing basically that only not limited and for less money, so I am not sure this is going anywhere.

My last idea is flipping collector's editions of video games. I got some experience in that regard, I know what is probably going to sell well thus increase in price but I don't have (yet) is a wholeseller that is willing to send me larger amounts of those items.

What do you think? Do you know products that are like 0 effort and in demand?

>>11565944
I mean that the pictures themselves are copyrighted. Here's what I mean,

I code my e-commerce website from scratch. If I'm dropshipping items, then I want to be able to use the existing images of the items that the original vendor has. The reason for this is if I can't use the original images, then I have to buy the items before selling them (and thus hold inventory), and I also have to have someone (labor) take high quality photos of each item I purchase. But some people get hit with $7,000, $8,000 copyright citations just because they are using the original vendors images. They pay companies to use reverse image lookups and will not reduce charges. Also AFAIK unfortunately unlike patents copyrights are international, so I cannot get by through regional differences

Tell me your thoughts / ways around this. There must be a way to avoid this or the whole purpose of dropshipping is defeated. I guess it helps to use a site like e-Bay because you're shielded from copyright liability the same way, but what if I want to make my own website?

>>11566182
That's what I guessed. I suggest you do external linking through some image host, thereby giving you deniability. You could also do anonymous whois of the site, thereby obfuscating your identity. You could also try to figure out which of these companies are litigation-happy, and which aren't. IE Chanel has armies of lawyers, Dr Oetker does not.

>>11564806
automatic gate and payment system would be interesting to know how much they cost and which kind of system that is.

shouldn't there also be a 24/7 support in case the power is off and people can't leave or the payment system is fucked?

>>11564230
Anyone give that ebook guide a go? I already have Scrivener and was thinking of writing guidebooks for some software topics. Mostly QA, backend infrastructure and project management.

I like the idea of getting started with vending machines

>>11566275
Thanks for this advice, where did you learn about this? Any resources on e-commerce you can suggest that actually deal with these kinds of practical issues? Or is it almost all inside the industry / networking?

>>11566275
Btw I should say I'm actually most interested in dropshipping from a site like JD.Com, not a US based brand. Any advice on that situation? Would not be selling in US markets (thinking Republic of Georga)

>>11566674
My pleasure. My knowledge comes from basic common sense derived from making a living online in about 20 different fields (but still not getting rich) for about 20 years now.

>>11566750
>jd.com
>georgia
I would have no concern at all regarding the copyrights then. Just put it up there and scale it up. In the unlikely event that you get into trouble, just go with the flow. If you still are concerned, just put a macro in Photoshop that flips all your images horizontally + rename them. That should put Google Reverse Image Search out of the equation.

Need help if anyone has experience with authority sites

Been thinking of something to build instead of my usual research today. Do you think /biz/ would go for bitcoin settled options contracts? I could definitely build a platform for that. Think bitmex except with even more insane amounts of faggotry.

Should mention too, since contracts are bitcoin settled the options could be for ANYTHING. Wanna gamble on $TSLA but don't/can't transfer funds to a broker? Just use bitcoin.

Although dealing with the SEC might be a bitch and a half though.

>>11566134
Reselling wise I always shill the special edition shoes but you have to constantly be on the lookout for them and keep up with trends. It's not difficult or anything you just have to actively look for new releases and artist collabs and see what's worth it. Use sneakernews and hypebeast. Ignore rapper/nig shoes because they release every week. Stick to artist collabs, anime shoes, Japanese and Korean releases.
Also you could grow microgreens and sell to restaurants. There are tons of youtube videos about this. If you have the space I don't think it's too expensive.
>>11566583
I clicked on it and have it open in a tab but haven't read through the whole thing. From what I've seen it's literally step by stepson how to publish and market it. Lots of steps though.

searching for products to dropship sucks, even at break even the price is too inflated so there's no demand for an overpriced product

How about a web comic about a cute autistic girl, to spread autism awareness? Can that be monetized if it gains popularity?

Any of you guys get a real estate liscence and do it on evenings/weekends as a second job? I do t think I'd mind going on house tours with people after my day job and it would get me out of the house and talking to people.

>>11567297
Yeah seems pretty comprehensive. I think I'll give it a go and report back in one of these threads, already have a lot of material written.

>>11568063
I'm sure it could be monetized with no issue from the beginning
However, i am reminded of a similar book, maybe a series actually, about a young autistic girl and her exploits
you should probably look into that first

>"entrepreneurship"
>so here's how you be a slumlord
lol

>>11569023
My boss does this. He is a terrible manager tho. Lol im sure it's pretty good sounds chill too. You should go for it everyone says you can make good money. Do t know any info I can share though sorry.
>>11569025
Hey good luck! Yeah let us know how it goes hope you find something lucrative
>>11569323
:^)

>>11566134
Germany? Carbon fiber aftermarket parts for popular cars. Easy to make once you get the hang of it. Can even take custom orders. Not huge space wise, medium overhead.

>>11569988
Someone bigger in Austria did that and had to shut this year.
But I am not sure exactly why.

>>11567971
Fidget spinners

Paid for my third house

>>11570002
They we're probably doing it wring, or had to hire designers and trying to make bodykits.

The key is to mimic exact specifications of factory plastic/metal parts and reproduce but in carbon fiber. Do some surveys and see which popular car has the most interest for this. If someone made cheap CF parts for E36-E90 3-series they would be a rich man

>>11569671
Thanks for the encouragement. I think I need to start just taking some leaps and trying things out. Are some of you guys also interested in this? I'm not sure if it'll work out for me, but for the time being I'd be willing to post any information I find.

>>11570007
Nice hustle dude

>>11570463
Yeah of course dude. I'd do it but I like to have my weekends now to work on my ebooks and run my errands. Talking to people in a nice house and maybe having snacks sounds breddy good.

>>11564230
Interested in slum lording.. aren't ATMs a big scam? When I was a kid, some guy my dad was friends with tried to get into them and lost his fucking house.

>>11565766
I can manage ur shit anon. Do u pay?

>>11571429
How? Did he stop paying his mortgage? Original OP bought the machines, stocked with his own cash, had them put in nightclubs and stuff to rip off drunk people. He said he does fairly well. I think it's different in other countries but here in America you can have 3rd party atms.

So is there a dedicated forum to this kind of stuff? Maybe like a subplebbit or an actual forum?

Anyway, I'm a basic bitch by /biz/eng/ standards (firewood, handyman, various drugs, etc - and broke) but I'm gonna be a regular henceforth and really want to step the fuck up. Is getting a contractors license a good idea? One interesting endeavor, imo, is getting into growing gourmet mushrooms and selling to local restaurants. I live near pdx, and have been growing mushies for awhile, so maybe it's actually and finally worth pursuing. Another half baked idea I had the other day was pirating, printing and self binding textbooks and selling them to university kiddos at a substantially lowered price compared to the real deal. Anyway, just wanted to bring a fair share to table before asking too much.

I don't care if it's not 'passive' so much (right now anyway) I just need money and hate other people making my schedule.

Is dropshopping seriously still a thing? How is that not oversatured by pajeet and his friends? And mr robo hand, how do you actually marke the ebooks? I've always thought that's a total joke of a way to make money given the existence and prevelance of pirating (thankfully).

Let's get a real forum though, I just spent 5 solid minutes solving captchas.

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>>11571694
There is fastlane

>>11567297
>microgreens
fuck why am I not doing this, I already garden and it goes hand-in-fucking-hand with the gourmet shrooms idea

nobody copy me if you live in my area pls

also, /biz/eng, like bizenga.. bazinga lmao

Hey guys, I'm trying to write a business plan. The operational section is really throwing me for a loop since I don't really have the time to put in to be at an office and shit. I still have my full time job and I really can't afford AT ALL to quit it. I have no savings, only debt.

>>11571914
>pirating, printing and self binding textbook

This is not a bad idea, I know of some people that do it, but let other people do the "pirating". You are just a service provider that accepts their PDFs .

You can get excellent printers from bankruptcy auctions. Consider getting service contracts for them as well. Then we are talking about CBC binding or a cool device like the Sterling Digibinder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bJwitJJSnQ

could i get a no bs link or reliable information about what affiliate marketing is? Someone on /pol/ said I should look into it before the thread pruned. I'm on youtube anyway, I sort of get what they're saying. It's just very wishy washy, pictures of dudes in their lambos and what not. I don't care about being rich, I just want to pay my school loans off. I owe over 120k still

>>11572033
damn I was originally looking at just getting a cheap used $30 or so brother laser printer via goodwill but this would be dope.

my only concern is getting busted, not sure how I'd safely advertise w/o getting the ban hammer irl.

>>11571966
can you link? couldn't find the right site

>>11572155
well, you need to have the students locate their copyrighted material themselves. Then upload it to your service. There are "safe harbor" clauses for service providers. It is not your job to police your users.

IF you wish to sell the copyrighted material yourself, just go to Aspkin.com and find people that sell Paypals etc. Then send the books anonymously through UPS.

Course literature could have 1000 pages or more. CBC bind can handle up to 800 pages. Above that you need to punch the pages and put in binders .The Perfect Paperback type that you use the Sterling Digibinder for has a capacity of maybe 500 - 600 pages.

The key to this game is cheap costs per copy and printing speed. What you need are "production printers". Some Konica Bizhub versions print 22 pages a minute. Some print 75. That makes one hell of a difference. You also want to read up on "toner chips". Those enable you to refill toner and sometimes bring down printing costs to a fifth of a cent per page. If you sell a 1000 page course literature book for $100 and you pay peanuts for printing + postage, then we are talking about real profits.

>>11572306
My idea of the process was more:
>find essential texts that are pretty pricey (like James Stewart's Calculus, 1000th edition)
>download relevant books from libgen
>print, bind
>post ads around local school

But I like your idea of keeping it legal :-)

>CBC bind
Hypothetically, If it exceeded 800 pages, I'd probably just divide into seperate volumes and charge more, or look into binders. But at any rate, I don't have the money for a digibind, and the lower overhead of a simple laser printer is appealing given I have no actual customers as of now. This means binding it by hand like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdeKG4xz0uQ

Of course it'd be ideal to start advertising online with a real industrial printer like the digibind asap. The brother printer's can print around 10k pages off a $30 cartridge, which isn't too shabby, but pales in comparison to that Sterling beast. I'll definately look into sourcing one, maybe it's worth the overhead immediately, I'm just skeptical about it given I don't have any sales lined up currently.

>>11572306
And thanks for the info. Searching around, there are certainly a lot pdf printing and binding service providers out there.. I don't know how I'd differentiate myself if I plan to sell nationally not just locally..

>>11572544
>how to differentiate myself

Well, you have one or two guys online that are really cheap and will let you print "anything". But none as cheap as somebody that has the ability to use a toner chip to "crack" a toner and refill it.

> 10k pages off a $30 cartridge,
That is probably at 5% coverage. Most actual texts are between 10-15% actually, so that means 5000 pages at $30. Then labor costs are quite high. Paper punching is notorious to "not work" automatically, so that is a time consuming manual job.

>>11571914
I'm working on that it's very slowly coming along, keep visiting /entg/ to keep updated with this thread and the future forum.

>>11573067
>I'm working on that
what did (you) mean by that?

>>11571914
Pirate and make a pdf copy and put on usb sticks instead. A lot easier can get 10 for 40 bucks on ebay. Probably more for less GB.

>>11571914
On the ebooks im just copying all my shit down digitally first and then looking into inputting in the software. Boomers might buy it and if people find it they might purchase it. Not getting too serious about it but it could be passive small income to just get my feet wet. If I wrote like 100 books over the course of a few years I could make okay passive cash. Ya never know.

>>11573255
wait waht? and just sell the usb sticks? my potential customers were all the people I've met a local college that "had to have a physical copy, can't learn off a screen".. Do people actually by USB sticks just for a pdf?

>>11573288
yeah I like the ebook potential, if nobody buys it, whatever, but if they do the income scales so well and it has massive upside potential, just hard to find a good niche

>>11572119
From what I understand you just advertise other people's products through your link. If someone clicks your link and purchases that item you get a percentage of the item sold. My understanding is stuff like clickbank. You shill someone's product on other websites and forums and drop your link.

I hate that fastlane is full of people who seem way dumber than me but make way more money and live a way better life just 'hustling'

and it's all just so mystical, I guess my balls are closer to talc pebbles than steel boulders cuz some of these guys make insane leaps.

>>11573313
Idk it just sounded a lot easier than book binding. I mean I'm sure you could fit multiple books maybe on the usb? I also just assumed most students use laptops. It's just my brainlet 2 cents. The other anon sounded like he knows his stuff better though.

>>11573337
I'm that other anon. I sell USB sticks and I sell printed copies too. People want different things, and sometimes they want both. As long as it makes me a buck, I will sell it

>>11573334
>way dumber than me and makes more money
Welcome to life my friend
Lol iktf

Ok, so I’ve been thinking of something lately that may work and also fail miserably - a cellphone (and maybe certain electronic) repair business. It’s very simple and easy work that could easily make you a few hundred per day.

I work at a cellphone store and I can’t tell you how many times people come in with broken phones, screens in particular (with simple issues I know how to fix) that are willing to pay money to get them fixed, yet cannot be done at our store because we don’t have the means to do so.

I’ve had people offer me $100 dollars to fix their phones but I can’t because I don’t want to get fired. But I’m thinking about saying fuck it, starting up a *small* gig where I drive to people to fix their shit and then eventually open a small shop of some sort where I do it.

Obviously it’s a very competitive market but I’ll market to boomers and millennials in a certain way that will hopefully drive traffic. Has anyone done this type of work or do you know anyone that does?

>>11573361
I just hadn't really seen it such high concentrations before.. jesus. At least it's motivational.

>>11573352
You're very kind to be helping a potential direct competitor in such a candid manner. Maybe I'll just middleman for you at my campus until I can afford one of those beasts you mentioned lmao.
Is there a word for the uneasy yearning an aspiring "entreprenure" feels as they wait in what seems to be a living purgatory with no sign of escaping it? Like you're just waiting for an idea or a sequence of events that may never come.

>>11573392
I payed 30 to get a battery replacement. I didn't have the tools to do it. And I needed it done. I called 3 places only one was willing to take the chance and use the battery I had already prepurchased.

>>11571914
>>11572023
>mushrooms and microgreens
Hey fuck off we're full
Seriously though I just started a rack of micros and I've got 3 restaurants and a market excited before I cut the first stalk
The key is being the first one or at least the flashiest talker, any random jagoff can grow micros, it takes real effort to sell them, especially if you're the first because absolutely no one will know what they are
Mushrooms, especially "gourmet", are a fucking cakewalk all the way around you just have to learn the grow cycles to time your harvests properly

>>11573474
>potential direct competitor
It's a big world and I have some unique angles + experience. Chances are I will never lose a buck due to me telling the world about this. If you are close to an American uni and can sell this locally, I am not in any position to compete with you, so best of luck to you. I am doing my stuff from coffeeshops in SEA. IF I were in your position I would get a colour production printer and the Sterling Digibinder and make perfect copies of books (yes, there are actual print master files in PDF format for some of them to be found). Sell them as originals and undercutting the lowest priced seller with 10%

> living purgatory
Well, that purgatory CAN be the state of analysis paralysis. Over-thinking while waiting for something to happen.

>>11573120
Typo lmao “I’ve been working on it “

>>11573521
what state r u in? pls no pdx, OR.. Is the microgreens thing really oversatured? I assume not if no one knows what they are..

>mushrooms
yeah I've been growing these puppies for years, just never really had the space available to expand out until now, but I can see the grow cycles being very important when you have buyers that need them on select dates.

>>11573546
lol ok but what do you mean by that? getting a /biz/ elites forum set up? I want a premium membership if so for toasting in this epic bred b4hand. And no captchas on your site pls for the love of god

>>11573541
Yeah again the digi would be awhile off, but then again I've got school for awhile longer so maybe I can make it happen. Thanks for being a gold mine for some seriously esoteric stuff.

and I don't think I'm overthinking much, I try to have as big of an "attack surface" on this as i can and throw everything and the kitchen sink into an ideas.txt file, but it's nothing original.. yet?

>>11573507
Simple shit. I bought a screen for my coworkers phone and just had him pay me for it and then an extra 30 for the “”””labor””””. It took me all of 10 minutes to do during break at my job here.

I figured if I do that multiple times with random people who I will obviously charge way more than $30, I’ll be set to make a lot more.

I gotta make a “trendy and hip” setting to attract the NPCs and to make more money

>>11564230

>>11573597
>I try to have as big of an "attack surface" on this as i can and throw everything and the kitchen sink

Sounds good. IMHO, try ONE thing out of those things you are planning and see if you can make a tiny amount of money from it. Not a lot. Just 10-100 bucks. See if something "sticks". Good luck in all your endeavours.

Manufacture and sell different items to oil and gas industry. I'm an engineer and my partner works in China. We specialize in injection molding so we just make our own products to sell. Kinda fun.

>>11573563
Alabama
There arent very many for profit farms out there, theres a handful of hobbyists but the market is very open, unless you live in the same neighborhood as one of the YouTube guys
The big money is in grocery stores, obviously, but they can be really tricky to get into

Tileanon here. I work about 30 hours a week laying tiles in kitchens and bathrooms. I'll make about $75k this year.

I would say I'm happy but this work is really fucking up my spine. People preach about body posture but you can only do so much. The trades will damage your back and joints.

So I'm currently getting my real estate license and seeing if that gives me an exit.

>>11573673
So how'd you get your first customers lined up - just cold calling or what? What's your overhead so far? And do you plan on farming straight through the winter? I'm going to be setting up an indoor room here soon, hopefully there's no YouTube Chad looming over me already.

>>11573703
I know a guy who runs a real estate /biz/ very half assed, I've been thinking about getting a liscense to help out. What do you even do, just give tours of houses and get some fat commission? Anything else they do?

I've always hated doing tile for the reasons you mentioned. Most trades, really.

>>11573755
>>11573703
Hey, I was just thinking about this earlier in the thread. Did some digging this afternoon and it seems like a bit of a hassle to get up and running.
If your buddy is a broker/you have connections with people you've worked with, that's a huge advantage and you should do it 100%. When you get a license, you're only a "salesperson", and you aren't allowed to work for yourself legally. You need to work for a broker.
It seems like it can be pretty hard to find a broker to let you set up shop with them if you're planning on being part time, because a full time person would probably bring in more money for them. Also, you need a few years working for someone else before you qualify for a broker's license.
With the classes, exam fee, license fee, and maybe fees to your broker to "rent" your desk/office i think it would be in the $1-5k area to get going, being conservative.
This is all a bit of a bummer because I wasn't hoping for a second desk job working at some company.
A lot of people seem to work with a partner or team when they're part time where you all split commission but can fill in for when others are at their other job or otherwise not available. Seems like a situation where getting in with the right people is pretty key at the start. I'm gonna keep looking into this stuff, if you guys would like to chat about it more here that would be cool.

Damn its nice seeing ENTG threads becoming popular again. I saw an IMG thread the other day and it got me curious has anyone here ever tried blogging as a source of income? The thread had some pretty good advice about getting started but I was curious if anyone here knew of any good bots to help grow your follower numbers. So far this guide has helped me find more mainstream ones, but I'm sure there have to be some that are overlooked yet work well.

https://www.bluleadz.com/blog/best-free-social-media-management-tools

>>11573714
I know a woman that owns a restuarant and a friend of mines aunt has a booth at a farmers market, I got some names and info from them and called them
2 were intrigued, the other I just happened to be talking to my dad about it while we were in a restuarant and it cir around to the head chef and he came out to talk about it
My set up is indoors actually, it's easier overall to keep them in the right temp and humidity range
I'm currently $270 deep, if my boys are for real that's going to go up quite a bit here in the week or so either the legal fees to set up the LLC or whatever we go with

>>11573892
Interesting anon, thanks for the response. Hopefully the guy I know is a broker, he's an older guy who basically just bought out the (very small) town's real estate business, and all he really does with it forward customers to the big leagues for a commission, but I KNOW he could be making a lot more of it, I just don't have the gall to hard dick myself into that spot but maybe I'll go for it.

>>11573920
>Damn its nice seeing ENTG threads becoming popular again.
pretty sure there's a 100% correlation with btc dying and these threads thriving lmao. I haven't tried blogging, other then getting skeleton's on wordpress, but my interest in emacs org mode has rekindled the blogging idea. I'll check that thread and link out, thanks.

And if you haven't used org mode, maybe look into it for blogging. IMHO emacs is GOAT so org is definately worth learning for it's own sake, not just blogging.

>>11574043
>$270
finally something I can afford, thanks anon. what's the breakdown of that $270? mostly lighting, I assume, followed by soil, trays then seeds?

Anyone have tips on instagram? I've realized that my future career field has very little exposure on instagram from US posters but seems heavily promoted from other parts of the world. Getting followers isn't a problem since all my peers and I go to school for this very field (plus the alumni network is heavily involved). I'm thinking of just promoting on a general basis (like facts, how to's, news, etc) and soon expand into advertising products for it (maybe building my own products after graduating in a couple years). What do you think?

>>11574109
https://brabantfarms.com/grow-your-own/
It's about half of what he recommends to get started, he wants you to start with 2 shelves for some reason but you can grow 9 trays on one shelf I really dont need that much growspace right now
I definitely recommend watching his videos as well, it's what actually sent me over the edge to buy, everyone else was actually rather vague about the whole process or wanted you to pay $300 for a fucking college course on greens

>>11574083
If he owns the place he should be a broker. There has to be a broker there for you to do anything, so it's probably him. On the other hand, I think you may be able to refer people without being a broker, so he could very well be just getting those referral bucks.
I'd check into your state's laws about licenses. You may be able to work with him referring people away for a year or two until you're eligible for the broker exam, then get that license and start closing the deals yourself.

keep the thread alive!

>>11573334
My one gripe with fast lane is that it's a bunch of old dudes complaining about millennials. They're good dudes overall though. I want to give some of them a hug.

What would you do with a drone that you could fly for 6 hours instead of 20 minutes?

>>11573597
I mean like actually making a forum just dedicated to entrepreneurship yeah definitely I'm still working on the models. yeah i want no captchas either. but lmao how would i fight spam doods? cooldown period? or use something like coin miner captcha? what do you guys think?

>>11576290
or lmao I just thought of an invite system, or an approval system where you apply to the site and describe what you know and how you'll contribute. too minimize you know, some autism

Lets say i have very popular youtube channel with loads of subscribers but allmost all my videos are demonetized, should i start promoting my dropshipping website on that channel? could it be profitable?

morning bump

>>11573392
Youve got interested potential customers so just do it dude. If theyre throwing money at you, you should build a repor with them, make cards and give it to them for your own personal fixing business. We fix now shops are everywhere in my city. They even have kiosks at the mall where I work at. Although they limit themselves only to new iPhones and galaxy. See how much it would be to start it up yourself. You can even do it at home on the side first by posting on Craigslist. Advertise yourself as a personable helpful one man business. Don't let this job hold you back from was seems like a serious potential profit better than what you're being paid. Furniture fag said the beat way is to gauge what people are willing to pay by posting fake ads on Craigslists and seeing how they respond. If you get a lot of responses then you're good.

>>11574129
>>11544314
Archived instagram thread that was up a few days ago. Also pic rel was from the crystal guy. Look into 1.80 rule. That was suggested to me and I got a few more follows and likes.

>>11576353
People could just lie though

>>11576371
Why not just do a patreon like every other guy?

>>11576799
Yeah well it be vetted by a couple of people that the idea. Or should I just let it be anon with tripfag? And only certain people know ? What’s your input bro

it’s great to see /entg/ become more active

>>11576808
i dont make content , i just do shitty compilation videos. wondering how to monetize that shit

>>11577252
Why are they demonetized? Copyright claims? Daily dose of internet does well I think. And he makes compilations. I mean those channels shilling tik tok compilations must be making money too.

>>11576835
Man Idk. I've never done this type of stuff. I don't mind the captchas personally. It can be frustrating but I don't know an alternative. Mods don't sound too bad either. I wouldn't mind being one but I've never done it before.

How do you guys come up with ideas? I feel everything has been done ten times over and get discouraged

>>11577641
but how do they make money if off their videos have copyright claims??

>>11578011
Checked my dude
Personally i just think all day. My wagie job is physical and I've done it for 2 years so it's automatic. I brainstorm all day, think of memes, and youtube vids I've seen. Any ideas that seem feasible I write on my phone. I also work in a mall so lots of things look good to resell. Everything has been done before but you can either find a new angle or nichenit down to make it specific. People still male a living. Pizza places besides the big names exist and still do well. Chinks still make money off Amazon even though they all sell the same phone charger.
You can start by thinking of things you like and how you can turn that into a biz.
Also check any old threads for ideas that may stick out and seem doable to you personally.

>>11578060
You have to find videos that aren't bought up or licensed I assume. Daily Dose of Internet talked about how there are companies eho buy up viral videos and he has to ask the person if he can use their vid. Ask the creators of the videos yourself and see. Or I think you can alter them. Don't know much about it. I do know that people streaming family guy and futurama must be making money. Why else stream it and risk being CC'd?

>>11578123
its hard ;/ cant come up with good solution

>>11578207
Nose to the grindstone my dude. Do some research and see what you can come up with. If you already have a successful youtube you could piggyback off of that somehow. I beleeb in you

>>11576127
It's not my flavor but if it was.
Film alternative sports videos. Guys on skateboards. Surfers. Music concerts.

As for providing value. Perhaps something a little more boring. How could a drone be used to help in construction or Geo surveying. I know nothing about these things. But I'm thinking it could help others make money. Which in turn, helps you.

I think I'm going to start my 3D printing early boiz. I looked up the ender 3 and it was way cheaper than I thought. I could probably get 2. Im going to use a bit from my next paycheck and get started. Much excite. How's my wagies/uni bros hanging in there today?

>>11576848
It's thanks to guys like you and bionichandfag. Trips are usually assholes that shit up a thread. But you guys are legitimately good dudes helping out.

Also I always wanted an entrepreneur general. But there wasn't enough interest to keep it bumped. It didn't even last 6 hours before pruning. Now we have everybody here. Even I'm willing to bump and start a new general.

Just discovered this dropshipping app for Shopify. Simple, streamlined way to get drop ship items on to your site

I made $100 doing some landscaping around my neighborhood yesterday. Felt good. Didn't make any cookies yet though for the college kids. Thinkin' I might try and get some actual clients though for lawn care here in the fall. Snow care stuffs for the upcoming winter too.

>>11564230
>slumlording.

Not every swinging dick with a rental is an asshole. I'm not. But I have learned why so many are. You are but one in a string of shitty renters (in their eyes) that will do nothing but bitch tear your shit up, and then try and stiff you any chance they get.

I would akin it to finding good help. A lot of people are lazy, lie, and steal. But there are a select few descent human beings out their.

But it's like combing /b for a descent YLYL or thread not related to porn.


Anyway, the benefits of rental real estate tax law is in itself a fantastic leg up since taxation theft is most often your largest expense.

I'm personally going a bit more of an active route but it fits my lifestyle.

Got a house on a highway. Going to open up a used car lot since i pretty much already do that as a hobby. This will make it official and find my better deals as well as perks of dealers tags and dealer ownly auctions. I'll also have a nearby scrap yard for parts and fun as it will soon become a metals recycling facility. This will all be reinvested into itself until I have a full time job of it. Wich will be easy to do since I have a cdl and can haul all of the cars or scrap i would need. I also operate most all equipment and have random periods of downtime at my day job to feild texts and emails.

But my entire plan as well as casually fix up and rent single family homes is to acquire real estate.

Around here leasing for mineral rights or cattle will always cover the property taxes.

So the only problem is acquiring what land i can and where even if it just rots. I know my local prices and the great recession of 2008 didnt even really effect us here in flyover land. With the tax laws being pro business and real estate and inflation working for instead of against me it's a pretty safe bet.

>>11564631
Nah. You say that. I work alone 10 hours a day and if my wife is busy or i am working on a rental i can go a week without talking to anyone.

Still have to get out and punch a timeclock and make my bosses several dozen times what they pay me.

Working sucks

>>11579025
Nice hustle dude! Sounds like you got a plan. Good luck.
Make rice krispy squares instead. I just realized how much cheaper they are to make. I was offered to bake some stuff for like a boutique bake sale. 1 box rice Krispy cereal and 1 bag of mini marshmallows. It's like 2.99 all together if you get the off brand rice krispies. Delicious. Also some butter. You could charge like 2 bucks for 2 or something. Can add food coloring or sprinkles too.
>>11579108
Man I guess you're kinda right. That sounds a bit lonely. The only way I could really deal with that if I was in the wilderness or something. It's always more peaceful to be alone in nature.

>>11564806
Good start anon. Parking garages are extremely expensive but if you take it a day at a time who knows.

My first job was painting parking lot lines and airports. You and a buddy could do a walmart parking lot in 2 days. If your layout is complicated at all you can get a dronebro to get a few arial shots. Go physically measure and log a mock up blue print for next time.

The striping machine should be cheap enough to rent. You'll want to buy paint and glass beads like for blasting.

Pretty much just lay chaulk lines all day and then go over them with the machine. Can /diy stencils to make handicapped spots and numbers.

Alternatively if it's a small enough area you can purchas and afordable walk behind like the football fields use. Just takes a special upside down krylon can and does about the same.

The price of small cans could add uo but it's a fantastic way to maintain wear spots or postpone getting an entire lot repainted.

Be sure and get a can or 2 of black. You will make a mistake and it isnt a problem. Just paint over it. The blaxk over time will actually smash the lighter colors into the asphaltwich is also black. Youll never even know it was there.

You may want to youtube since this was 20 years ago but i figured i may as well chime in since i have laid many hundreds of miles of parking lot lines myself

>>11565821
Offer a percentage or set fee. Check local liscenses. Learn to keep them in good repair and keep them full or people will tear up your shit. Wifi cams hidden in them with the businesses internet is a good start

>>11566134
To keep your girl happy maybe the both of you could learn nore on urban gardening. Make an ebook about it. Start small grows pre potted for sale or transplant at thier homes by themselves.

Make it more of a plant selling or starter pack thing. Staple a $0.25 bag of seed in it to replace any falures or so they can further grow.

Obviously business name on whatever you can and business card staoled to seeds and kits or plants.

Shit like this is how seeds can make u money. And also make your girl feel like part of the team. She is helping and it was her idea smthat sparked it. Bit now you are doing better than just selling seeds

>>11566134
SHIT.

Speaking of I just got some bomb tomatoes at the last farmers market of the year and forgot about my seeds out drying. Thanks anon. I owe a winter harvest and start of a greenhouse to i

>>11578853
Hey bionic ,question about your biz, are you planning on just being a 3D printing service or also offer modeling service? You can offer modeling so normie can print stuff but know not needing technical knowledge

>>11572023
I'd actually like to help / partner in norther ok. If not no big.

If you have room to burry black plastic pipe or compost hay for geothermal and compost heat do it.

Tfw energy costs are a fan... and a water pump

>>11579367
Thinking of starting out as printing service. That one 3D model guy a few threads ago shared some knawledge on model programs which I capped. I'm going to try and learn in my spare time. I have some artistic ability so maybe that will help. I could then offer to model and print prototypes for people's inventions and stuff. Really feels like I'm gonna make it. Like this is the thing that I can make into a legit biz. Unless we have an economic collapse then I'll be JUSTed lol

>>11578940
We appreciate that broo. What do you do for line of work maybe can learn from you ? It’s all learning and sharing knowledge here. And here you always welcome to tripfag

>>11573703
maybe not stupid, you could flip houses and do tiling and shit by yourself

>>11573633
Kek. Yall make cheap rod guedes by chance? 5/8 and 3/4 rods mostly

>>11573703
This and anon ffs train a couple guys to do this shit for you and just book appointments and do real estate deals.

I'm assuming you dont only walk up and lay tile. And if i am correct you can buy a house in need of light repair. Make it look nice as shit, and rent it out or trade it for bigger and better.

There's good money in tile but 1/3 or more should be going to get a way out of tile or at least the physical labor part. It's a rule of thunb i hear a lot.

Welderbros go to school for 9 months. All their teachers say to get a good used dually, build a bed, and get a good used camper.

Spend 1/3-1/2 of your 6 fogure income in figuring out how to get the fuck out

>>11573755
Yeah. Maybe some deep cleaning and have staging shit koved into empty houses to male it seem more like "home."

And you advertise and work when normal people dont most often.

Seams beyond fucking easy but i fear its becoming a meme.

Still tho. I'm going to dobit to save 5-6% commission on a lot of deals.

6% of a half million dollar apartment conplex is fucking $30,000 of my money i get to keep.

>>11579514
nah man, i'm a wage cuck too. Trying to figure out my way in this cold dark world the same as you mothafuckas. but i came from /ic/ drawfag world where even if you're a noob. you can still contribute with a lil critique or a comment, as long as it's got heart to it.

i'm now interested in affiliate marketing. only spent 2 hours reading up on it. And looking at some examples. I know it's SUPER oversaturated. But so is the art world. I'm thinking I could do a niche, just figuring it out. speaking of I forgot the reply

>>11573316
alright so i read up some more about it, it's really interesting. I could see what and why this appeals to people. I also understand how it can be useful. And I even see how it can be scaled. I may have even found myself on these affiliate blogs pretty frequently. Though I've never purchased anything from them. I see some great examples, where it's not just shilling. It's got some weight to it. people write blogs about the product, review it, or convince you how to use it. I'm thinking I could do that.

>>11576127
Sell it for billions.

Reliable tech for that shit doesnt exist yet.

There's the whole weight vs power and longevity trade off.

You could do ot but you'd need a multimillion dollar air ship the size of a walmart to get that kind of time.

>>11576290
I think go for it. Partner with some of these bros, and lets jump ship. Fuck this shillcoin containment board.

>the great migration of 2018

Just do it!

>>11576353
Have a large checklist and have an "other" section so people can describe obscure experiences and knowledge.

>>11578011
Same.

Never give up. Find a twist.

>make connections
>make connections
>MAKE CONNECTIONS!

you actually need to know very little if you can put people together who are knowledgeable and find a goal to accomplish.

You don't need to be an accoutant to do your taxes. You just need to know enough to communicate clearly what you need from them and they need from you.

I know jack fuck about the law but my bro does. I've read a lot of books for us normal people about real estate and tax law.

Without using all of the big fancy words i can discuss particular law, case law, and most of all what i can and cannot do and why.

I think rather than try and reinvent the wheel i will use my natural god given skills that i have worked hard to protect and improve upon.

>come up with ideas at an unheard of level of autism
>love learning the basics of most anything and then after a week or 2 of yard all day study online and youtube i fuck it off to learn something else eye catching.
>people seem to like me
>try very hard to always tell the truth and not bullshit people
>have lifelong friends in various feilds and they all have their own lives and connections.


I think maybe i should stop trying to start a side gig and just bring people together that will. I'm fairly good at easing tentions and mitigation of compromise.

More than once i have had close friends want to murder each other. It took a while but little by little they became brothers again.


Does this just sound retarded and is mybshit all fucked up or does this sound like a good idea? Build a team with 0 idea where to start and go from there? I know a lot of people with money. That's normally the hard part. My attorney can handle day to day shit or recommend law bros. Etc....

>>11578940
FUCK

YES


I check in about 1 time ever 4 months just for threads like this

How do I create jobs when my field is completely saturated?

>>11579178
It helps i guess. I don't walk very well and can't stray very far from my loader. I think things will be better by next summer. Financially and mentally I've had hell on earth the last few years but it's finally about over I hope. At least the brunt of it anyway.

>>11579551
Please fuck DO NOT flip houses. Or If you do then at least have the sense to do it like me. Never buy for flip potential but rent potential. Buy a place, fix it up, rent it out, refinance. No you have a fresh new rental making you a slight bit of cash, paying it's own mortgage, and best of all your original investment back to do it all again.

This place is extremely backwoods. And i love it. Banks are a hassle and people here don't trust them and most are lazy / don't understandor care to understand basic financing.

Rather than list house for 100k.

List house 120k. Rent to own! 0% interest ever!

Sure you lose an asset but who gives a fuck. If you get a place for 70k, put 10k in repairs, and after 366 days you sell it for 120k on payments you nearly doubled your investment and should be making about double in rent.

I may have found a grossly overlooked niche or i am missing a detrimental flaw in my basic outline here.

Its a little more work. But rather than buy a place and let it rot i would be buying places and getting double rents.

Its nothing to pick up a descent livable house around here for under 30k. Put 5 or 10k in it and rent it out then sell it after a year.

Hell, from what i have seen if you get a descent tennant they will happily double up on rent and own that place soon while considering it theirs.

I guess theres a possibility of them gutting it and just running away but its a small enough town i could pay a few bros to keep close tabs. Work out a contract with no major structural shit done without express written permission. Or whatever. I don't know.

Of course theres always the chance they could drastically improve the property and then lose it. Which then you could finish and rent or sell it again

>>11579976
Find niches within.

Say you're a house framer. Consider setting up a saw mill and kiln on the side. Cheap lumber. Consider dealing your raw materials and consumables fuck boxes of nails at lowes. Buy a pallet and sell on fb cl and online etc... bust ass until u cant handle it and then hire soneone part time or full time until it is self sustaining. Use the profits to start a roofing supply company etc....


Pandora comes out of his box for creative freedom. Inside box is stagnant and stupid. Outside box is 1 trillion ways to solve one need or problem.

Even better to create a need or want and also fill it.

Problem solvers ALWAYS win.

>>11579814
your right as soon as I get the POC ill post it to the web and let you guys know and ill adjust along the way.

>>11579968
damn bro i hope you come more often to /entg/

>>11580352
>>11580374
forgot to trip

>>11580352
10-4 bro. I'd be interested in being a mod or janitor if you need. We should also have a live chat. Telegram works good on phones but a descent chatroon would be cool

>>11579801
Yeah you got the right idea. If you're smart it's not just shilling. It's just that a lot of people I've seen on YouTube and other places literally just shill their link like pajeets lol. If I can find the vid I'll share it, but it's this guy basically spelling out how to properly do affiliate marketing with clickbank and all the people in his comment section just spam their link, Ignoring everything he said lol. Hope you find some success in it. Good luck and we are all gonna make it!

>>11580435
alright sounds great broo, already ounds like a great plan brb gtg program

>>11579937
I'd like to make connections but I just moved to the city and don't have a job currently. Only people I know here is my sister who's still a student, her husband who's kinda starting to look into doing his own stuff, and my buddy who runs his own gym. All my thin connections live a state up and are mostly living their own lives by working

I'm attending a real estate investing club in November to meet with some people around the area and I have a meeting with an acquisitions manager on Thursday. I hope I can meet people and figure out what the fuck I'm doing.

Might have to get some random job here soon

>>11580374
Oh i will. I used to frequent this place but the combination of autistic shitcoin screeching and getting unlimited 4g to streem tv i pretty mich forgot about this place.

But yeah I'm in. We would have a key searchword in every title that's the same so we don't have to wade through a sea of autism to find the thread

>>11579752
I was one guy looking into this yesterday. If you're the broker, represent the seller, and find the buyer yourself, yeah, the 6% is your to keep. That's where the huge money is.
When you start you'll have to split commission with your broker. If you represent the seller, you might have to split with the buyer's agent. If you have a partner or team, they get their cut as well. I've heard to expect about 1.5% when you start off, minus office fees, marketing, etc.
In most us states you can get your brokers license in 2-3 years, then you can work alone and take more commission, or hire agents and take half of theirs.

>>11580552
Kek. Get it!

>red team standing by for launch
>it is time for me and my people to leave this place for a better place
>a place where shitcoinds have their own designated place to shit up away from actual business and investing.

>Grandfather bought a quarter acre lot with a bar on it 40 years ago because he got a good deal (guy was going through a divorce or something)
>Turned it into a 4 story parking lot with 250 spaces - poured the concrete structure using his own construction company
>Nets $300,000 per year in perpetuity by just selling $100 monthly passes to office workers
>Dad inherited the lot in exchange for forgoing his share of the construction company
>Mortgaged the one lot to build another one
>Nets $500,000 annually for sitting on land
>I am basically a neet but have a $50,000 income because he pays me 10% to maintain the lots for him and keep them filled

>>11580662
Solid plan bro. Unfortunately for me nobody in my social circles has a fucking clue and the ones that think they do just ree about how 401k CANNOT under any circumstances lose money while simultaneously irl shitposting about starting their own business without spending 10 minutes learning how the fuck to run one. No wonder 90% fail in 5 years. Half of the 5% is just luck anyway.

Kek. I know its not easy but my friends are rediculous. I try and persuade them and when they try to argue or flat out ignore my advice i just shrug it off and listen to them talking about thier future financial ruin. I tried to help. It's their life and their money.

I guess I'll just be there with a job or a loan I'll never get back.

I seriously want to start taking weekend 2 hour trips to the cities to meet people who give half a fuck about proper investing and freedom from wagecuckery.

>>11580688
I see. Thank u anon. Already work 50 hours a week whats 20 more i guess. I do have nights and weekends off. Being a broker with a small real estate company would certainly be terrific supplemental income as well as benefit greatly with acess to the MLS and the broker is typically the second person to find sales after friends and family

>>11580682
keyword? like/entg/ ?

>>11580785
haha well you have place on 4chan to talk now

>>11580776
Fucking shit anon! Perhaps you could start a little more modular? Get a lot and add a story at a time. Does this work? You still got the hookup on construction?

>>11580818
Yeah. I worded it wrong and meant that for another thread entirely. Busy at work and phone has aids. If i type to fast it wigs the fuck out in various ways.

Seriously about to skip this pos. entg sounds great to me

>>11580829
KEK.

My entire social circle on and offline and anything geographically sensible to me and fucking 4chan is the sane one.

Kek!

I have a few i could chat with i guess. But they are in the 7 figure range anually. Lightyears ahead of me. They will tell me to quit my job and all in on black. I simply cannot do it. I have enough downtime at my job i could get a lot done.

Not to mention after a decade long struggle and over 1 year living on my mother-in-law's couch laid up i refuse to ever be broke again. Even if that means forgoing potential time and money in the future for my fucking self created safe space.

>>11580841
Problem with adding a single story at a time is that you are probably out an entire year's income from the top story while construction is going on although in the long run it would still turn a good profit.

If we were to add a floor it would probably cost about half a million and generate an additional $60k/yr, so about 8% ROI per year after mortgage. Additionally we would need to evict the top floor and piss off people who have been with us for years.

My dad says he doesn't want to risk it and instead spends his money on boats and shit. Stupid if you ask me but he does own it.

>>11580895
lmao, it's honestly sad all these NPC's around us.

>>11581000
Fuckin hell. I can't say that i blame him tho. Until the robot cars take over he's getting 8% depending on yalls bills, taxes and repairs. 8% is better than most filthy casuals do. Not bad for sitting on your ass doing precisely dick. Make him proud anon. Save some of that 50k if you can and maybe get a full time job to invest. Activly getting 30% or so is pretty doable if you are smart / aggressive.

Hell, I've traded a house for cars before. Sold those and put a down payment on a better house and got to hoon around in a corvette and a mach 1 while waiting for them to sell.

It's surprising growing up in a trailer park and learning how much money is actually out there and waiting for us while we have been trained since birth to wagecuck and then die, only investing in watered down trash shit like stocks. Why buy stocks when you can get in pre ipo or trade options?

God I am in such an annoying situation, but I have made some progress this last month. I invested £2k in crypto and it's up to £4000 which feels great, but my normal disposable income at the end of the month is only £400 so I am saving at a glacial pace.

I have an idea for a business that doesn't require too much in the way of set-up costs and my current job has a lot of the equipment that will allow me to research things like how much I cam make in an hour. The only issue is the website will need to have some functionality that is beyond my capabilities.

Does anyone here know how much it would cost to have something like the Vistaprint designer made? I want to have, say, 5 products you can put your design on, so the customer makes their design on one of the products. Any ideas on what it costs to get a developer to do something like that?

>>11581016
Man. I just want freedom. I dont want to even start acting like i have a clue around my bros that have money. I want to do something on my own to prove credibility. Then i want them to be fucking dumbfounded when i go into discriptive detail about living a lie the last decade because it is considered rude to talk about financial gains here. And when you do make gains it was apparently luck or you fucked somebody over.

Kek. There's a guy I know. Everything that man touches turns to fucking gold. It's uncanny. I seriously doubt he talks about his failures much but i let slip how he does it the other day and made him kinda wtf at me. Him and his partners were sitting around drinking with us litterally filthy wageslaves like we do and someone said "man anon, i sure wish i knew your secret." I said it doesn't turn to gold by luck or chance. The man has spent his life learning wtf NOT to do. So when a good deal falls in his lap he doesn't even need to run the numbers to snatch it up and resale it, keep it for a bit, trade it, or just fucking sit on it until some rando sees it from the highway and offers enough or trades for it.

I mean, you don't just slip and fall into a 6 or 7 figure income ffs.

And for anyone saying it takes money to make money his partner was bankrupt not 15 years ago. Last rumor i heard he's north of 40 mill est. net worth.

Whatever it is it's enough for him to consistently buy toys and lake houses and hold his position as partner.

I just cant wait to retire from wageslaving and truly start my life as a free man. I'm fucking sick of it.

This book changed my life. And before anyone rees shill or rich dad is fake who the fuck cares. It isnt a charity and weather or not every single story is made up bullshit it made my first step into financial freedom a fun one. So much so that my first and second copies just fell apart.

I'm going to shake that mans hand one day as a free man and probably try to join his team.

>>11581245
>Does anyone here know how much it would cost to have something like the Vistaprint designer made? I want to have, say, 5 products you can put your design on, so the customer makes their design on one of the products. Any ideas on what it costs to get a developer to do something like that?

That sounds really easy to me as someone who has done a lot of webdev and dabbled in shit like php and js.

I would be surprised if there wasn't already a plugin for it on a cms like WP. have you checked?

>>11581245
No idea but it sounds pretty rad.

If you are talking any sort of screen printing, heat transfer vynil, or sublimation i have researched those a lot. Not sure if it'd help at all but hey, you never know.

>>11581366
>If you are talking any sort of screen printing, heat transfer vynil, or sublimation i have researched those a lot.
What's the best one for bulk B2B targeted uniform stuff? Like just basic t shits and jackets with a logo.

Family has been in the laundromat industry for 100 years AMA

>>11581358

Ok cool, I'll have a look, cheers. I have just started learning web-dev so I am not clueless, but it's early days for me.

>>11581366

Similar stuff, but this will be for frosting of glass/acrylic, can't find anything like it, but I know there is a good market for it. If I can do everything in house and get the user to do the hard part (the design work) then the profit margins are great.

>>11581448
Think about it like this. It's a simple process.
Upload and image, store the image, put it on a a rectangle displayed on the page on top of your generic shirt image, and record the position on the rectangle.

>>11581476
also, literally 2 seconds of googling

https://wordpress.org/plugins/product-designer/

Are business degrees a meme?

>>11581511
Yes, as someone who has been to a top tier MBA program for a bit.

>>11581410
Probably an embroidery machine or sew on patches. Most all i have seen are embroiderd. If you have the setup you may want to screenprint.

Personally i would get a hobby tier vinyl plotter like a cricut or cameo 3 to play with.

You can actually have screenprinting shops print for you on transfers and just heat press it on like you would with heat transfer vynil.

It all kind of depends on what business /quality you are going for.

Something like a sales floor polos with embroidery would be appropriate. But if you're a few guys in a mechanic shop dirty all of the time just printing or pressing a name and logo is sufficient since the shirt won't live long presumably.

What sort of businesses or job descriptions of the wearers did you have in mind?

>>11581439
Horey shet.

Tips for starting one from nothing?

>>11581668
Step one be a Jew

>>11581448
Yup, you can use a plotter to just cut the design. Throw some etching shit on it or blast it. Clean it up and done.

Good plotters do good details but are expensive.

Maybe to begin with hobby teir do large mugs and glasses and shit?

Any ideas to make money homebrewing, other than dropshipping, affiliate marketing or writing an ebook?

>>11564244
Why is a blog in the $1k+ range?

>>11576290
Well, if you're gonna do captchas at least do it like infinity chan does (once per 24 hours). These captchas here fucking kill me.

>>11578011
It doesn't have to be original. And the more money or time you have, the less original it can be. I also, like, >>11578099 , try to just be thinking as much as I can and record any decent ideas.

>>11579025
Nice. I'm in a similar boat.

>>11579449
What are you looking for? I've got a compost pile going, and I've always loved the black plastic pipe idea, but how does this relate to microgreens or mushies?

>>11581245
Unless you have over $10k outside of crypto, I would really advise cashing out some of your gains ($1-2k or so) and maybe putting it into something less volatile, or invest it into this business for a less fragile mode of income over the years. It's extremely likely that you're $4k will go back to $2k, or even $1k.

>>11581511
I dont have one but i do know if they werent then the people teaching you would be off making millions instead of teaching

>>11581685
Well, I'm technically a morman although i havent been to a morman church in decades and consider myself nondenominational Christian because of all the bullshit in organized religion i see.

I am learning the financial habbits of the jewish peoples tho. Does that count?

>>11581716
>I am learning the financial habbits of the jewish peoples tho. Does that count?
never a bad idea

>>11581781
Well, i never saw a broke jew yet so...

how does amazon work for making tshirts?

i wanted to make a run of t shirts and market them

>>11581797
i have but she was adopted, claimed she was a jew but she def wasnt

>>11581716
haha youre good

>>11581694
>thinks crypto is still volatile

>>11582010
>either thinks crypto isn't volatile or doesn't understand everything is relative
If BTC dropped to under 4k by EOY, I wouldn't even be suprised. That's pretty volatile. At any rate, I just wanted to give that guy my advice since he's trying to build his savings, and it would sure suck if he got eaten up.

>>11581016
Ayy let me know if you need help with your forum. I can add all the things I screencapped if you want them. Maybe make upload them to some pic sharing site like imgur or whatevs.

>>11581823
Kek. So it's not genetic.

>>11582164
Photobucket so we can copy without screenshot faggotry?

What the fuck is up with craigslist allowing so many duplicate post? In my case, searching "firewood" yields 900+ results, but I swear to god there's less than 50 sellers total. I've tried flaggng, but it's fucking endless. These guys are reposting almost every 30 minutes it seems, it's just too much.

>>11582173
im saying she was broke
so it might be genetic
cuz she isnt their genespawn

>>11577252
Plug an advert from a company, not by YouTube, just an advert in your video

Any britbongs here know how saturated the market is for selling mushrooms to restaurants? I have a lot of the equipment and knowledge already from growing some shrooms at college, never occurred to me to sell legit 'gourmet' ones.

>>11582140
haha yeah I'm being sarcastic, crypto is more of a speculative investment

>>11580814
I was thinking even if I didn't do anything else with the licence having access to mls will probably be worthwhile because I'm hoping to buy a house in the next few years.
Right now my problem is there's a lot of upfront cost for the education and it'll be months before I even have a liscence and can start looking for a broker. It would be nice to start small and scale up instead, but oh well. Also Minnesota is particularly expensive for the classes and liscence, double the cost in Illinois, at least.

>>11582164
sounds like a plan brooooo!!

>>11582192
So as a solution to this I need to find an automated way to repost my ad every hour or so I can stay on the top page.. Any ideas?

>>11582192
Cl is absolute aids anymore. I fucking hate everything to do with cuckbook but their marketplace is full of people. If you dont find anyone there then word of mouth for it will. You happen to live in southeast kansas i may know someone

>>11582212
Ohhhhhhh. I had it backwards.

Fuck.

I am doooomed.

Look what i can't do

Pic related

>>11582492
>crypto
>investment.

Kek. You're killing me broseph!

>>11582502
Fuck. That and the fact I'm piss broke until summer is hampering me. Plus my deals are coming from the friends and family part. Its a small town. I found several descent deals but i prefer to fix up only 1 house at a time and just maintain them. Any major work thst can wait until the next tenant does. Keeps me from going insane with 20 hour days. I was trying to do this and run a dumptruck at night.

>tfw sruck or flat at 2am.
>dick with it till 6:30am
>work 10 hours
>continue unfucking truck
>work until midnight again to catch up

Outlaw trucking is best trucking. Fuck the DOT. Their elogs and hos rules are the most dangerous part of truck driving. The shit you have to do to monkey around the bullshit gets you 0 sleep and 0 money and following it gets u ran off or fired

>>11581797
What is nepotism for 500 Alex

>>11582186
Man i havent used photobucket since highschool lol. I'll give it a go but they'll still be screenshots. I try and edit them to look nicer.

>>11582573
Seconding this. I've followed a lot of people who just have their own biz making stuff by hand and mostly use Facebook marketplace.

>>11582582
Love your pic
Damn I absolutely miss madtv. We will never have a comedy show like that in these politically correct times.

Biotechnology is filled with unemployment these days so I'm wondering if I could start my own company. But it's so hard because I'd have to get a lab to make the product.

>>11582784
Don't you have to deal with fda approval for anything you make that is for regular consumers? Saw a few videos about it. Some guys were trying to make scented moss to replace air fresheners but the fda shut down their project.

I have about $30k of spending money now that my business is starting to take off. What's something I can invest my excess profits in that will produce residual income while I tend to my business?

>>11581323
That book is legit. It was the first book that taught me about financial education and the nature of capitalism. Really freaking eye-opening. Of course people did go out to disprove him, even MJ Demarco shits on him every other chance. And MJ means well. But it doesn't change the fact that rich dad poor Dad is one of the best books about how to see money. It lit the spark of interest for me. If only I had one for hustle but maybe you guys are gonna help. We're all gonna make it.

>>11582703
>>11582573
I'm well aware that it's total aids and I'm already on FB too, but right after spamming a bunch of ads (which I felt kind of guilty about, but everyone else is doing it) I immediately got my first customer from there.

I just need something that reposts ads ont the reg, maybe every hour or so. I'm not gonna make any money sitting on page 8, and don't have the time or patience to repost like a madman every hour.

>>11582597
Lmaooo that how people view it

>>11582682
Meh. U do u man. I got shit internet sonetimes and imgur sucks. No reason to change the entire process just because i am a meme hoarder.

However, if i may suggest tho we either have an open poll about it, let the OP idea have say, or let whoever does the legwork have it.

Actually, i pay like 20 bicks a year for a domain just to hold it as an inside joke. If anyone wants to use it we can.

>Be me, 28 years old
>Still working minimum wage jobs
>Produce at Kroger store
>Halfway fluent in Mandarin Chinese (self taught)
>Need to get into entrepreneurship or some way to not be a wagecuck

Tell me /biz/, how can I use Chinese as a white man to get some sort of leverage? Is there a way I could get some sort of trade deal with Chinese manufacturers to send products to where I am in the US or something of that sort ? Its All so confusing to me

>>11583507
It should be fine I'll probably take a look when I have some down time and upload them. I can add stuff to OP and pastebin any links I've saved over the course of the threads. Yeah imgur was just the only image share I could think of off the top of my head lol.

>>11582703
I have made 1 sell on etsy with 0 advertisements or competition. Kinda forgot about it desu. Had no emails or complaints of any kind a 6 weeks latter so i overnighted 3 times the product with an apology note and thanking them. They asked when more product would be available and i added them to my non existant mailing list for notification.

Long and boring story. And irrelevant i guess.

Wtf were we talking about?

>>11583674
That's like the hardest language to learn dude nice job.
A few ideas because I know nothing about working with chinks
>tutor kids in Chinese
>personal assistant to rich Chinese business owner
>translator
>make simple learn Mandarin courses on like udemy (I think that's what it's called)
Can't think of anymore at the moment

>>11583754

I've considered learning German or French so I could be more useful to teaching Chinese people language. I don't know what languages are in demand in China other than English ob viously

Politically correct does not apply here. Or anywhere besides cucktown usa (cities)

What businesses can start with $20,000?

the list in the OP all seem to require a lot more

>>11582784
No offense but uncle sam stole that market and only crooked fucks get to play with that.

>can't wait for the implants and slavery

>>11583830
you can start businesses with nothing, stop being a faggot and get creative. I'd kill for 20k I could blow on a business venture

>>11583830
You've got capital, what are your interests?
>>11583822
Checked
You okay buddy? This is 4chan so you can be as politically incorrect as you want lol

>>11583830
Just dropshit chink garbage from Aliexpress at five times the buying price. If you make a webpage fancy enough you can pull it.

>>11583260
Rental real estate. 30k is 20% down on a 150k home. You will find it's a dickpunch at first but i swear to u this fomula has worked forever.

Start business
Put excess cash in real estate
Start all over
Never stop

>>11583277
FUCK YES WE ARE. The shit was so obvious but from fucking birth

>u can be anything u want
>carpenter
>lawyer
>cop
>firefighter
>astronaut
>governor
>POTUS!!
...these are ALL fucking jobs. You wagecuck. You get paid. Someone else gets paid wayyyyy more.

Getting rich is easy. Get your shit together. Then see wtf everyone else is doing. Run the opposite way and dont look back.

Every fucking time.

>>11583881
>You've got capital, what are your interests?

I don't really have any that I can monetize.

>>11583288

You need a cheap macro program to auto run it. They are cheap and easy. It just repeats wtf u did. Record your shit slow and steady in case of lag. Set it for 1 time per hour. Turn 360° and walk away.

Fuck me. I bet i still have the highest count on myspace mafia. Gonna check it brb

>>11583958
>turn 360 and walk away
classic

but anyway, I need a free macro program mang

Toot he anon that wanted to set healthy vending machine
Pic related

>>11583937
>areyousureaboutthat?.gif
People monetized playing vidya dude.
Only asking because what if you spend a bunch of time on something and hate doing it? You won't want to spend the hours building it into a business. Brainstorm a bit we can come up with something.

>>11583321
Fucking generations of oliogarchs cucking us nonstop.

It's truly fucked

>>11583674
Steal ideas that work in English and change it for a Chinese audience.

>>11584111
>what if you spend a bunch of time on something and hate doing it?

I do already, my job. I just want to be independent

>>11584484
Then you must put on your thinking cap. Look at the old thread and see if there's some ideas you like. We all wage to pay the bills at least if you're doing something you like it won't be so bad.

Well boyos I gotta hit the hay. I have to bike to work now so gotta wake up early. Hopefully this thread did here tomorrow. Thanks for keeping it alive guys! Have a good night and happy Halloween

>>11583830
Start blowing glass brother.

Youtube it

>>11583881
Yeah.

Am good.

Just consider me almost alt right with liberal friends that shoot guns and party with several not white murderers


I'm an oddball mut

>>11584034
Full of spam and aids now.

10 bucks will get a real one with homework

Am dead also. 5 times my color changed.

Will look for general in 9 hours

Night bros

>>11584539
bike? lmao just use the bus if you want to save the environment

>>11564230

Ecommerce seller here, not a dropshipper. AMA, 3 years in a row of six fig sales so idk

>>11580275

I'm confused about the rent to own part - you're basically marking up the house and then doing payments with them instead so that they own it?

>>11584724
what do you sell? I will file for an s corp for accounting services. Who does your accounting?

Hey guys, I was beginning to design products for a very niche market in the medical industry and I met a product designer who showed some interest. Anyway he gave me some really good ideas and now I'm finding myself drafting a business plan. The only issue is that I'm in Japan, and I can't choose if I want to do it in the US. The market is untapped here, but it's also very costly and I'm not sure who I can trust due to language barrier and my general naivete about business. For instance, I don't even know what this guy wants from me yet... He's Japanese, barely knows english and we have a german guy translating for us. In the meantime I'm going to just try to develop the product and incorporate. I really wanted the guy to introduce me to some of my target market since he knew some people but he hasn't done that yet. He just told me to make a business plan and start a business, but I can't without beginning to devleop my product. I guess here you can't really start asking people to test things out without being super legit with a KK license...

Anyone got tips for a start up for a poor guy in Japan? I'm thinking of trying to get social media going but I hate being infront of cameras. I'm somewhat knowledgeable about an unknown yet growing field, so I was thinking I could make a following just giving out info and then transitioning to selling products based on the industry

>>11584933

I sell in various categories, I'm gonna keep that part private but it's just myself. I do utilize FBA

I've been a sole proprietor - the first two years of those sales my margins were modest and I was paying for my own tuition which I could expense so my taxes weren't really that bad. I'm still considering what I'd like to do next year - I want to leverage my experience into a career in a digital field. I've actually had offers, best one was mid 70k starting comp before you get into the triage of bonuses/stock - I pussied out but will technically make more right now because I still live with my parents lol. Will eventually move but I'm being mindful of how much cash I have on hand, how much I'm vested in other things (index funds and stocks) and how much leverage/credit I'm using for inventory. At the very least I will be doing an LLC for 2019 especially if I go dual prong with a career and my business (I'd just scale it down appropriately to still make money).

All of my records are kept online so I could just download expenses and sales reports and crunch some numbers by hand/formula. Besides COG and commission/listing fees my expenses are very minimal. Anything that requires a lot of use I'll purchase higher end used/refurbished and take care of it, a lot of times I go full frugal and reuse quality packaging material and boxes too lol. I do have a rule of thumb to not do anything to cut corners with a customer though.

I package everything well, try to build good rapport, and offer free returns/extra service if there's a fuck up anywhere. I think a lot of times you can do well in a niche/category if you are persistent with your service. I love seeing a repeat order or customers adding things to their shopping carts.

I'll throw out a bone for everyone - I'm going to try a new follow up customer service email when an order arrives. Basically, inform them what they should know - that their order arrived

>>11585007
I manufacture products for a living. Give me a shout and maybe we can discuss further. rximejdi@sharklasers.com

>>11585038
>>11584933

part 2

I've been using the email/message to solicit feedback but instead I might say hey, if anything's defective just use the free return and save time (instead of directing them to the feedback page to tear me a new one).

Finally, I'd wrap the message up with an offer "If you actually read this short email, please reply back and say Hi! We'd love to give you 20% off your next order when we see your reply."

A little cheesy but I want to do everything I can to get more value out of every customer while trying to make the experience a little more fun instead of just spamming ads or feedback request messages

>>11581694
>Any ideas to make money homebrewing, other than dropshipping, affiliate marketing or writing an ebook?
Direct response copywriting.
Look up the Agora companies.

Launching my site soon.
Still no idea how I'll monetize it lol (affiliate links won't work).

>>11585039
Sure, my product designer guy was talking to me about China and he has manufacturing knowledge. I'd like to learn more without the language barrier. I'll shoot you something in an hour or so

>>11585223
what is your site? a blog? new? need more details broo

>>11585274
Geopolitical analysis site. It's more of a hobby thing than anything.

>>11585223
Affiliate is really expensive time and resource-wise. You'll also need to run good ads for it to matter.

Need details tho. What are you planning to sell? What's your service?

>>11585304
Cool shit, any ETA/link?

>>11576787
Was reading this thread the other day, the 1.80 rule definitely held some wisdom. I ended up saving the ING thread as a pdf since there was quite a bit of good stuff in there. One thing that I'm still trying to find is a good source of blog material without having to go out and create it. I'm thinking about following a ton of pinterest blogs and than stealing their posts and posting them on instagram and vise versa for pinterest. Anyone have any good places they go to for content?

>>11585553
ETA probably 2-3 weeks?

I'm just struggling with react at the moment, it's my first "modern" website in a long time.
>>11585409
My service at the moment is basically analysis of political trends in the news. I know there are a million and one people doing it, but I think I can do it better.

I'm more interested in how to get people to read my site learn about me than I am about making money off it just yet. I want to become an "expert" people ask about these things (although that seems hard).

>>11578966
This looks super promising. I looked into dropshipping a lot awhile back after some anon posted a dropshipping guide however I could never figure out a good way to break into the business. Thanks for this anon.

I just bought .15 acres of land in Beryl Utah for $552 sight unseen, two parcels. What did I do?

>>11585637
>I think I can do it better.
I'll be very happy to talk more at length with you about this.
The TL;DR is that you'll either need to get in bed with major media outlets and tow the party line, or go hard on advertising, which is a bit worthless unless you're making money.
The way to making money with this... that's a pie I want a piece of.

>>11585672
> no water rights in a desert
Not much anon.

>>11585756
Yeah i'm aware of the water situation in Utah, I'm from southern California. I guess I'll go check it out once I get the deed at least, taxes are under $20 a year so I figure I can have some kind of fun with it.

>>11585713
What were your ideas for monetization?

Thoughts on working on bootstrapping yourself while working full-time?

I have a lot of downtime at my job, so I'm able to spend time on my side projects during and after work hours. Currently building a SaaS in a market with few competitors, and I think I can differentiate myself with less (but better) features and more competitive pricing.

I already have one potential client, but I know that I will need multiple clients in order to go past the MVP stage and have a solid product that can be scaled. The thing that worries me the most is how to make client calls when you're in a 9-5 office.

>>11585787
Hope you're not planning to try to sell it anytime soon.

>>11585637
>>11585834
smuggler@cocaine.ninja

>>11585845
>Currently building a SaaS in a market with few competitors, and I think I can differentiate myself with less (but better) features and more competitive pricing.
I'd be interested to know more. What's your USP and FAB analysis?
How much do you plan to spend on spend on marketing? Are you going with general marketing, or direct response?
Is there even a market for your solution? How much do your current clients (those you're building for) spend on your solution right now?

>>11585937
Nope, my goal was to get it for less than $600 and keep it, maybe use it to camp, possibly build something on in the future. I definitely want to go use it and have some land owner experiences. I'm a 31 year old renter in socal with basically a trust fund and it was an itch.

>>11566134
bro sti's are max 30k new even less if you're not a brainlet and know how to negotiate wtf

This anon >>11564851 again
How would I get traffic to a website like this should I just shill this on reddit or something?

>>11581323
Kek, I just borrowed one of his books from the library a week ago. It was about real estate tax advantages. Solid stuff.

You're not alone anon. Although I know what it's like to feel that way. The new forum the other anon is building will provide a consolidated spot where we can all make it together.

Keep your drive alive and find an area you want to devote yourself to 70% for work and the other 30% could be smaller more self manageable passive streams of income.

>>11564816
>>11565638

>3D printing

What is this meme business? Can I get a rundown? I got $20k to start any business, is this a low barrier of entry?

I've been lurking these threads since their inception.

I've made a discord server discord.gg<slash>CRQjAg that we can use while waiting for the forum to be made.

Hope it can help keep the conversation going.

I miss this kinda discussion on this board I feel like there used to be way more of it before the whole crypto thing really took off.

I want to talk with people about what I should do with a large sum of money I'm going to be receiving next year from a medical malpractice lawsuit, will be like 3 million USD most likely. I'm going to get financial advisors recommended to me by my lawyers but I want to see what you guys think. I definitely want to start my own business and do something with the money other than just simply investing but I'm very uncreative and can't really think of anything that inspiring right now.

>>11584713
Lmao I literally stopped using the bus like 3 days ago because I was tired of how incompetent the drivers are. They are scum here in LA. Full of attitude, always late, never drop you off at the right stop. Fuck those assholes. Spent some cash on a bike and now I'm biking to work. My legs will be jacked as fuark

Hello bros , I dream to open up a food stall. A small one for starters. How much do you think I'd need to realize that dream specially if I want to hire more peeps? Also is it bad to hire friends or relatives?

>>11588834
Watch out for regulations in your country.

About to start up a merch store for my gf. she got a bit of a following on insta.

so which is best service for dropshipping? all the reddit cucks give bad advice. Was thinking about going with shopify and printful combo. I have it all set up but dont have the capital to pay for shirt printing. Shopify says it pays every 2 days :/

Most people say printful is best. but i looked at teespring today and its less hassle, free and would give me better margins. any suggestions.

>>11588834
Watch you don't accidentally kill your customers.

>>11585672
I mean it's only 552 bucks but you didn't even see it? Is there a well, is the land flat, what was it used for before, all that jazz. Well you have land at least so if shtf you can live on it I assume. Never been to Utah so not sure what your resources would be. Resell to some other guy for double the price lol

>>11586094
Damn nigga if you have a trust fund you could have bought a nice piece of land on the east coast. Lots of lakes, rivers for fishing, land for hunting. I even saw a piece of land with a fully furnished house listed at $70,000. Hope you can do somethting with your land though

>>11587962
Okay rundown
>want to build robot arm
>think about it at wagie job
>oh shit I can learn 3D printing
>look into it
>lots of people want prosthetics
>good demand
>run by biz
>they actually don't hate my idea
>a kind anon says he makes a good side biz renting his out at his uni
>that's what I'll do
>work on robot arm on the side
>anon says ender 3 is good I wanted the CR10
>ender 3 is like 200 bucks I could buy 2
>now want to rent them out to people as a printing service while learning to use 3D model software so I can model for people as well
>still need to test it all out, but if all goes well could eventually open a brick and mortar and have a real biz
That's basically it. I originally wanted to make hand prosthetics but offering a service could be better and I can make them on the side and sell online. Will start in my room and hopefully expand. In 2 weeks my next paycheck I'll buy an ender3 and some material and test it out.

>>11588863
Maybe just do teespring until you make enough capital for printful and shopify? That's what I was going to do personally. An anon suggested WordPress or shopify + printful. Didn't know you had to pay printful it thought they just took a cut.

>>11583830
Robot lawnmower service. Buy a nice Havana straight shaft comercial grade weedeater with handles and a chest harness. Husqvarna robo mower is about 3k. Get a van or a pickup with locking camper or even a junk camper that locks. Small machine for bury boundry wires. Make them sign a season long contract so not waste time and money sinking wires for nothing. Weedeat property, tale half hour nap while mower works or use 2. Save some for emergencies and repares.

Grats. You are 1 man professional lawncare specialist.

Wouldn't be a lot in small residential playing robomower shuffle. But a large lot and commercial contracts? You may he able to buy or build a solar doghouse and just weadeat once a week

>>11566182
AFAIK there are some methods of obfuscating the image enough for reverse search not to work, without turning it into an unrecognizable mess

think of the crap people are doing on YT to circumvent copyright strikes, mirroring the image, slightly cropping it and then resizing it (leave lots of empty space in the image, hide it with CSS) as well as some color and brightness manipulation should do the trick
you may take it one step further by perfectly cutting the objects out of the original image and then pasting them in some other image that has objects around (so, a picture of some shitty mp4 player, cut it out, find an image with a desk with a computer and some shit on it, and paste the phone picture in there to look like it's on the table)

>>11589027

Thanks for the reply!
but how do you make good money from renting out a 3D printer? How do you even advertise that to the students anyway, and where do you place such a thing conveniently for the students?

Also, how does 3D printing help you with making prosthetics or a robot arm? That shit requires engineering skills and precision far beyond printing capabilities.

And you say lots of people want prosthetics, I don't see your point here? Most people in need of prosthetics get them medically, those who don't can't afford them. And they're a tiny fraction of the population, so even if you somehow made a legit prosthetics product that people will trust is safe, how are you gonna market it to them?

>>11583674
I heard if you are actually white in china you can get hired just to be a token white guy in the company


any possibilities of relocation? be mindful of the cancerous air there though

>>11589072
Same. They actually charge your card for the printing the shipping costs. And you keep the difference.

>>11580275

the problem is credit risk. you're going to have a huge legal mess if they go broke halfway through a rent to own agreement. it could end up where you have to give them a 50% stake in the house in order to do the eviction.

then you have to find a new tenant, get agreement to sell the houes, or give them a fat cash payout. whole thing is a mess.

>>11589219
The anon who prints for his uni is a student and I'm pretty sure it's word of mouth plus there is a website I think he uses but unsure. Go on YouTube and look up 3D printed prosthetics my nig it's way easier than you think. I came across a website that prints them for free for kids all over the world. They sell kits for the parts you can't print for 30 bucks. You can order it and use the codes to print the pieces and put it together yourself. A lot of stuff is open source and you can just pick what you want online and do it yourself. I wanted to build the Open Bionics Adam Jensen bionic arm myself in the future. They made it open source, although to print for a specific person's measurements id have to get specific software and stuff.
A lot of people want the free prosthetics for their kids but can't afford them so they ask a donation website. If I make it relatively cheap maybe I could get some customers. That I'll save for when I actually start printing. I can put ads on Craigslist and find other websites. It's all possible I just haven't actually started the process yet. I could make toys, prototypes for people's products, cosplay props and stuff like that. It's all new to me but dude they're even printing houses now so honestly the sky is the limit. This is my foot in the door ya feel me?

>>11589628
Word of mouth? Between prosthetics users? People don't have vast networks of friends in need of prosthetics.

Also I've checked out the 3D printed prosthetics. Those are still made by high-tier professionals. The company you're talking about is 4 years old, worth $1 million and their arms still look like shit.

Here's what you get when a dedicated hobbyist tries the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULTyu4ppk-s

So what's the strategy here? In the time it would take to build the competence to make these prosthetics, companies such as Open Bionics will e way ahead of you.


I'm not dissing your dreams, just talking from a business perspective, this seems like a very pipey pipe dream. I just want you to work harder on the strategy so you can succeed.

>>11569286
Happen to know the name of the book?

>>11588414
make sure to put it in sticky next thread

>>11583937
There's always a way anon. If it's something you are interested in then it will make the stress and hassle bearable.

What u into bruh?

>>11588834
what kind of food and what location? i've heard people do well with ice cream around parks. will you be making tasty foods or treats? chili and soup in the winter? speaking of adults LOVE coffee. if you make a good hot brew without burning it, that will sell for sure. location seems important overall though. you might have high competition, but like all things, there's always something the other guy is failing at, (eg. customer service, burnt coffee, boring food, doesn't speak the language, no variety, taste is off, dirty food stall)

>>11589790
Well I already kind of explained it. I had an anon tell me the same thing you said basically which is reasonable I understand, so I figured okay maybe I can just do prosthetics on the side and stick with being a printing service which seems more feasible than the hand prosthetics. The bionic arm itself is just something I want to personally build not really sell because I'm interested in that type of robot stuff. I have no real drawn out business plan because I've never run a business. Spending maybe 300 bucks and learning what I can, as a hobbyist and trying to leverage that into a printing service sounds doable to me even if it's side income. Actually taking the step and learning as I go is what I will do. I've tried other things I've put money into, not everything works so you can't really kill my dreams haha. I want this to be the thing I can do full time but waging isn't so bad either. I'm good with money so I'll be okay. Honestly im fixated on the prosthetic hands because they look fun to build that, was my original idea that sparked the 3D printing stuff. If you have any suggestions I'm open to them.

>>11588834
oh yea forgot
>Also is it bad to hire friends or relatives?
never forget the crack commandments, which apply to business
>Money and blood don't mix like 2 dicks and no bitch

at best you can hire a teenage family member to do menial shit

>>11590016
Do the coffee thing and also donuts. Asians here make a killing on just donuts and coffee here in LA

Dudes its the 3D printer anon, im gonna make billions, i just started printing arms for children and they buying it like hotcakes

>>11589790
You seem to have your head on straight.

I have no capital but want to start a limited edition watch company. I have an all new case design. It will be a big hit. Most new case designs look like crap. Most are ap RIP offs. Mine is brand new.

Looks like I need to get a design patent. I don't want anyone stealing this. But parents are expensive. Also the production will be costly as it all custom and the movement itself will cost me 300 bucks. I still need strap, crystal, case (will be using ultra high quality materials/finishing), crown, hands and clasp.

Please share some advice.

Tl;dr new watch designer. No money, don't want idea stolen. How to watch company?

>>11590118
Welp I guess it's time to give up. Someone made fun of my idea on the internet. See ya guys it was fun while it lasted.

>>11584921

Yeah. Proper tearm is (lease option agreement.) Or something like that. Basically we just skip the bank. They buy the house from me on payments. It's a win win if things go smoothly. I get well over apraised value and they get lower payments with less purchase price compared to a bank.

Dependingn on credit an easy figure is if you get a 30 year mortgage you'll end up paying double when it's all done and said.

Basically its just a hands on way to get more rent per month at the cost of losing the asset. But idgaf. Because i don't need to replace it. I just need 20% back in rents to put a down payment on another.

Its not quite as easy as it sounds but it's the safest and fastest and most secure way to wealth i have found personally.

It's hard and slow starting from nothing. And it's a big headache becoming a handyman with 0 training. But I bought a house for 10k when i started. Put 5k in it. It appraised at 25k. Can borrow up to 80% apraised value in most cases or 20k.

So, only put a lot of blood sweat and beers and 15k into a house. Can then borrow 20k from the bank for other investments. However, i didn't pay the original 10k up front. I only paid the 2k 29% down payment.

I now have an immediate 7k in it and borrowed 20k.

Essentially i got a good deal on a house. Fixed it up to force appreciation (higher appraised value) it pays for itself plus a very small emergency account in case of emergency repairs like a blown gas line of fire damage that i cant repai alone in a timely manner. So house takes care of itself.

Got a house and 13k. 13k is 20% down on a 260k house. Do it all over again.

I left out the sea of paperwork for loan fees and taxes bs. But you can see how real estate is a good investment. Tax law is built for it and banks love giving loans because its something they can unload quickly.

>>11585007
Do animated vids or have a buddy you trust to be the one on film. No idea about japan but there are TONS of Japanese that soeak english well. I would just find another anon.

>>11585672
Fucked up horribly if theres a shit ton of back taxes or a title dispute.

Youd better go look at it. They might have a gay ass law. Somethibg like, say you move and a neighbor just plants a garden in your front yard. Say he gardens for 10 years and pretty much treats it as his own. Well now it is. He stole your land. Legally. Gayer than fucking aids i know but i didn't write the law

>>11585672
Buy a 3k cuckshed and make an air bnb cabin if it has utilities. If not try and hokd it for a year and then get 500 bucks back out of it or whatever

>>11585787
Any sort of population in the area? Make it a single camper lot or rent to roach coaches. Fireworks stand? Farmers market space and charge to set up?

>>11585845
Pay someone on disability to answer calls on your behalf cash under the table. It probably wont even be enough to be taxable but i dont know the rules and they are likely sitting around bored anyway.

>>11587571
>loopholes of real estate by Garret Sutton esq eh?

Is it harder to become an entrepreneur in today's world is it easier?

>>11587571
Will do anon. Tbh it's just exciting to find bros.

https://youtu.be/ZQ8itDYP6HU

This song is my life.
>mfw they filmed the music video in an active scrap yard.
There's a hoe stock piling steel in the background ffs.

Probably shooting myself in the foot for this but idgaf. I want to mostly hang out with rich bros that grew up poor like me. Or at least not silver spoon. We know what its like to climb to the top from the bottom and can appreciate what we have become. If i can't do a business deal in worn out CAT boots and a freebie hat with some randon bros logo on it then fuckoff. Kek.

I want to free me and the wife with ample goof off money.

Want bunker

Want scrap yard so i will NEVER have an empy shop stall and be bored. There will always be some redneck contraption or hotrod in it.

>>11587962
If you can find some sort of parts you can make or print for lost wax type casting of metal then personally i would either get comercial grade or build a rep rap army and babysit / repair the shits all day.

we have pruned! time for a new thread!

>>11590670
Okiedoke

>>11590695
WE FUCKING DID IT HELL YEAH BOYS

New thread boyos
>>11590718

>>11588414
Reeeee!

Cannot post in discord

>>11588493
DO NOT hire a fucking financial advisor. If those cucks were so smart with oney they wouldn't be wagecucking.

Throw that shit into the bank to rot. Read rich dad poor dad and other investing and personal finance books.

Baby step into a small business or rental properties and fumble along until you learn enough to start seing a profit.

Join entrepreneur clubs and real estate investor gatherings if u wish. Etc...

As you read these books you will quickly learn wtf you need to do and how to do it. Start small, grow quick, and be weary of crooked fucks. They are like sharks preying on the unknowable or gullible. And this is the level they live best at.

You will lose some money. It's part of it. There is always a lesson and always hold yourself accountable.

Your clown and baloon animal mamaking school failed then why? Did you charge too high? Judge the market wrong? Were Popo and Joey the clowns skimming?

Just do some homework anon and you won't squander this windfall

Sorry you or a loved one has a shit hack doctor. But, next year you'll begin your trip to tens or hundreds of millions with little risk and high reward. Should keep you to busy to sit around depressed.

>>11588760
Consider Ebike also for longer commutes

>>11588760
Oh, and dont buy a meme ebike. We can build you 1 for 1/3 the price. Even your own battery packs if you /diy much. Cost you 1/3 of store bought. Maybe less

>>11588834
Hireing them is bad. You'd need a foundation to count as a real place or a way to move it if mobile.

Better off buying a used food truck desu. The apliances and stoves and shit are made for them and expensive af new.

Maybe build your own over time with ebay purchases.

Between all the permits and fees and inspections it's actually quite difficult. But, a mobile food truck will allow you to work weekend events and make bank

>>11589027
Fucking kek. You get approval from medicare and medicade and you can charge those assholes rape price. You'll go far. I'm into hotrodding wheelchairs and my bro custom airbrushes for a living. I've seen him pimp out a few legs and wheelchairs.

Might be a fun addition if we could work sonething out. Or just help each other and have some laughs. Come spring I'm dropping about a grand into making a sleeper drifting wheelchair with hidden coolers so i can smuggle booze into festivals. Plus i dont walk well and usually suffer for a week after a long day on my feet.

>>11589072

May i suggest diy screenprinting or heat transfer vinyl and a tshirt press?

Make your own swag for max profit. Plus now can have print shop side gig.

>>11589219
Amputees seem to have a good sense of humor. I know of several or know friends that do that would happily buy affordable prosthetics just for fun or functionality.

Hell, anon if you can copy someones bumb leg we could put a bluetooth speaker on it.

Think outside the box anon. Prosthetic hands with leds for flashlight.

Robo arm with a hidden compartment for gun or smokes with a battery brick to charge phone. Charge arm at night.

Limitless man.

Theres almost 8 billion people on earth and with the power of the internet thst small percentage should be plenty.

>>11589374
True. It's all a risk and reward thing. No risk no reward tho. And experience and education btfo risk. Over time little risk with large rewards in anything you do.

My bro is an attorney so it'll be in an llc and the company will hold deed until it's paid for. It'll be relatively safe here because there's a 90% chance I'll know who buys it for a lifetime. I just won't sell it to a piece of shit. Any major remodle like taking out a wall without a large deposit to cover fuckups and or immediately terminates contract and entire house price is due in 1 week. Plus can periodically send bros in and if they notice a major fuckup they can sneak a pic.

People dont even understand eviction laws around here. 9/10 times they just show up and say gtfo. And people leave...

Lol. I'm willing to risk it since i can eat the payments. I'll pay bros to fuck up their utilities anyway and have hidden shutoffs buried. Ahh, it's snowing and your heaters and hot water all quit? Darn, time to dig up the line or move.

I need to take the risks and lose or win so i can move on to the next thing.

>>11589790

May not be a bumbrush but kids are repeat customers as they gro. Adults may want modified ones or backups. And they don't last forevor.

Found 10s of thousands in 5 seconds with 1 word search on cuckbook.

I would aay join them whe u get a few prototypes and ask wtf they want. Then fill that want.

>>11590283
If it aint you there is a watch anon on /diy and one that repairs rolexes for a living

>>11590571
I would say tons easier.

Just harder to stand out.