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TURN ON CNBC
>>11512340fuck
>>11512340what coin is this?
>>11512340HOLY SHIT ITS HAPPENING
Is it time?
>>11512340CRYPTO MOONING!
I don't even know what to think right now... Mostly tech sector leading slump. Wonder what bounceback will look like (if any)
>>11512438Its interesting because the new tech sector (crypto) is ready for money to be pumped in.
>>11512367>ALL. OF. THEMNONE OF THEM.
>>11512340Thought I might regret dumping my MU calls for a $900 loss and stock for a $400 loss yesterday. But nope.
>>11512460This is the research and development phase, they won't see the fruits of their labor until another quarter or two.
Tech is fucked.
>>11512438techies are overvalued af... in 2008 it was housing bubble, this time it will be tech bubble, including those cones
>>11512340>2% market swing>call it a freefallOoo yeah? Watch this!
>>11512523Primed for more speculative values though.Fat protocols vs the application layer for value retention versus the current internet era of tech companies.https://hackernoon.com/in-defense-of-ethereum-and-its-fatness-why-im-still-bullish-on-eth-4c00fea65442from today, i found it posted on ethresear.ch
>>11512367the shit ones
tell me the truth /biz/how much worse than February is this gonna be?
>>11512340TRUMP SAID IT WAS A SLIGHT CORRECTION AAAGGGGHHHH MY PARENTS ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOUSE
>>11512587buy it from them for cheap, kek
YOU ONLY HAD TO LISTEN
>>11512438Dont worry, The Board is hard at work making sure sales have what they need to get a sound product out the door and into our customers hands.
>>11512411fucking kek
>>11512367Boomercoin
>>11512550The housing market is being affected too.
Buy the dip. I'm going to stockpile on Amazon now.
>>11512550>bitcoin is correlated with tech companies oh man you are going to get justed
>>11512560>a market every citizen of a country jew'd to "invest"vs>non regulated autists marketironic enough, crypto has been less volatile than dow jones last month or so.
Oh shit it actually is lol https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-drops-450-points-as-stock-market-losses-hit-intraday-lows-with-less-a-half-hour-of-trade-2018-10-24
>>11512550>Your Bit ConesBoomer alert
How big of a deal is a 2.4% drop on the Dow? It feels measly after what anyone holding crypto has been through this year.Will tomorrow continue to crash majorly by the looks of the meme lines?
>mfw peter schiff was right this entire time and he waited 5 years for the greatest "i told you so" of this decadehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uG84WsK-Eo
>>11512722it's a pretty big fucking deal when it's happened multiple times in a month with barely any rebounds to speak of.
>made the decision to go heavy into gold with my mid november paycheck + christmas bonus>3 more weeksi screwed up, didn't i
>>11512722We were already down 6% from the start of October and with today's losses it totals to 8%. We officially don't hit a recession until there is a 20% drop year to date.
>>11512722its been happening every day for the past week, this is a bad sign dude. The chinese also lost trillions in stock market capital, russia sold almost all of our debt back to us, its probably gonna pop very soon.
>>11512689why tho, I don't hold any corns
>>11512340Looks like straight 2007
quick, are there any fib and ichis master jodas, lets listen what they got to say....
>>11512772why is bitcoin not correlated with tech companies? because it isn't. go do the math and take the nasdaq and bitcoin for the last X years and get the correlation coefficient and then get back to me. your thought process is clearly just:>bitcoin is techy tech that i don't understand>tech companies have techy tech that i barely understand>therefore when one techy tech goes down the other must go down toobitcoin behaves completely differently than the nasdaq and has a very weak correlation coefficient with it in either direction.
4% drop, pussies.
Worst month since May 2010
>>11512724> in since the last recession, peters been right for just about the same amount of time he's been wrongoh yeah, what a soothsayer.smart guy how did he do it.
>>115127220.01% is billions of dollars lost.
>>11512830don't know about nasdaq, but btc eerily correlates with sp500 and dow from what I noticed
>>11513027of course if you zoom out, turn on that meme log scale and take our current bear market into consideration...
buy the dip
>>11513062Where have I heard this before
>>11513084hey man, it's your loss
>>11512550This time its much bigger than that. Its debt bubble. Too much debt everywhere anywhere all fucking sectors. The world is gonna get fucked soon.
>>11512977>Worst month since May 2010I suppose technically. There were other similar deep dips on the indices between 2009 and present though (notably 2011 and 2016). This one gets points for speed if not depth... for now.
>down 2.2% on my portfolio>freefallanon I...
I cant decide to go 100% crypto or 90% crypto 10% gold. What will u fellas do? Pls no ammo foodcans and toilet paper.
>>11512693This, it's as volatile as ressources.A STORE OF VALUE
>DJIA goes from 7k to 25k in less than 10 years>no one bats an eye>DJIA drops 500 points>THE SKY IS FALLING THE ECONOMIC MELTDOWN IS UPON US IT IS FINANCIAL ARMAGEDDON IT'S HABBBENNINGcalm your tits you drama queens, it's just a correction
>>11513204Gold will get confiscated, it's what has always happened before.
FUCK FUCK FUCK SELL ALREADY YOU FUCK
>>11513200Really, you only lost 2.2 over the past week or month? Post screenshot you glorious faggot
>>11512340ONLY BTC WILL SAVE YOU GO ALL IN BOOMER
I LOST 2 FUCKING GRAND
>>11513214>what is bias: the post
>>11513223As if my money on banks wont get confiscated or get worthless. If we hit that level of economic collapse.
>>11513027But it doesn't.https://www.sifrdata.com/cryptocurrency-correlation-matrix/https://www.sifrdata.com/cryptocurrency-rolling-correlations/
>>11513273Oh it will, buy crypto and shit you need.
>>11513263Remember, it's not a loss till you realize it :^)
>>11513223the fuck you mean confiscated
>>11513027>don't know about nasdaq, but btc eerily correlates with sp500 and dow from what I noticedWhen the market tanks btc will drop with the panic and then moon.I mean check what happened with the great depression
>>11513290>Executive Order 6102 is a United States presidential executive order signed on April 5, 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt "forbidding the Hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States".
Okay investmentfags, how long until the economy collapses?
>>11513323What department of alphabet niggers will even come after you if you do that? Just fucking shoot them.
>>11513341Never, just a correction
>>11513165Lots of businesses loaded themselves up with debt to compete with Amazon. Bloomberg had an article about maturing retail debt in 2018. The 'retail apocalypse' is not over yet. It will be over when offline stores get flushed out of the system.
>>11513357Unless the gold is hidden in your back garden they'll just take it right out of the banks, they don''t need to ask you.
>>11512977Months not over yet bud.S&P has to touch 26000
>>11513358
>>11513358 Pretty sure everyone said that at 20k BTC and everybody knew how euphoric everything was getting. Everybody knows the market has been up 10 years straight and the party seems like it will go on forever but there are a few that remember.
>>11513358>the business cycle has finally ended! >they literally say this before every crashcrash imminent
If a crash does happen, how bad will it be compared to 2008?
>>11512411>(((schiff)))
>>11513341It started last week. It's a roughly 9 year cycle. It's overdue. It was prolonged by populism. The longer the cycle the deeper the recession.
>>11512411Schiff is proof that even a broken clock is right twice a day
>>11512340omg that cheeto fucked every one. why god ? why did you let him rape america?!?!?!!
QE is over, the everything bubble is popping as we speak.This gonna be much worse than 08 https://pensionpartners.com/this-is-the-end/
>>11513405considering we have no tools for recovery this time it could easily be worse
>>11513280finally someone with a brain>>11513039>>11513027just admit you were wrong. muh "spooky correlations" based on zero math and just gut instinct the absolute state of /biz/. these are the nocoiners fudding BTC.
>>11513425I'm so going to call people comrade from now on.
>>11513405Predictions say it will be worse than the great depression.
>>11512340>US STOCK MARKETS IN FREEFALL
>>11513436>considering we have no tools for recovery this time it could easily be worsethat won't stop 'them' from attempting to print their way out of this, m8.
>>11513454Fuck that i know whats coming but im not ready for it. Guys fuck this, this time we must wipe out the entire freemason bloodline and jews.
>>11513458>oh ok nothing to worry about then
>>11513387Retail debt is about to hit the fan
>>11513483Make a crypto exchange account, have cash on hand for food purchases when the banks panic, have a couple of days of food in your house at a bare minimum.
>>11513425It's plain as fucking day
>>11513373Who in their right mind would keep gold im a bank?
>>11513405Worse, much worse.
>>11513436And Europe is distancing itself from US, they now ditched the US dollar to trade with Iran. The pertro-dollar wasn't a meme after all. I wonder if Junker will end up with a sword up his anus like Gadaffi.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AAvOdbzqss
>>11513573Why is Europe so hard set on trading with Iran?
>>11512340Well yeah - election is coming up. Soros and Co have to make Trump look bad. And it was overdue regardless, too much fake money pumping it. Hitting the reset button is the only option. No more golden bull run :(.
when the MAGA actually starts?inflation and trumps market is killing my money
>>11513373>Keeps gold in a bankThat literally defeats the purpose to own gold, holy shit.
>>11513470CNBC and tone vays signal already
>>11513529People that worry about being burgled and having their kneecaps broken.>>11513593Don't look at me, people are dumb.
>>11513583Stop being such a partisan retard. If Trump or Hillary was conducting a train that was barreling at you would you not jump out of the way regardless? Blind faith deepens recessions.
So how long till collapse? Short: 2-4months, med: 1j, long: 2j?
>>11512977Me on the center-left.
>>11513454Lol no. The economy would have to be real to begin with to result in literal rioting - it's not though, there's no actual resource or energy shortage to trigger that, it's all just smoke and mirrors to squeeze real value (labor power, not gold for the Schiff shills) out of the peasants. (((They'll))) let it crash enough to get the normies to panic sell, then just lower interest rates & use tax money to pump again. Same as always, literally just the same tactic as crypto manipulation but on a much longer timescale. All you zoomers going through babies first real crash are hilarious.
>>11513421>mom I called drumpf a cheetoh again
In case faggots didn't notice there's a summer and winter in capitalism. It's endemic to the system. It's fucking simple. It's time for a winter.Low rates = cheap moneythat leads to malinvestment as the money burns the oligarch pocketsThen the fed raises rates and the purge begins.
how long before the FED tries to assassinate him?
How long do I wait to buy in?
>>11513688Schiff is personal adviser to the BogdanoffsThey wouldnt dare touch him
If a crash will happen, how can we take advantage of it? i heard buying stocks really makes sense if your put in a few hundred grands only. what else could we do?
>>11513458>fundamentals are "very strong"lmao, just check back this time next year
>>11513666So speaketh Satan, the prince of lies.
>>11512830>bitcoin behaves completely differently than the nasdaq and has a very weak correlation coefficient with it in either direction.Although you might want to be ready for a well timed down bart to scare weak hands again. There is some strategy to timing a down bart to spook people.
>>11513688I think they already killed his father in prison.
>>11513625I'm not even a burger you brainlet. It's irrelevant who I support, or if I support anyone at all - don't you think that if a sitting president of the US has political enemies in the entrenched financial establishment with a vested interest in seeing him ousted in favour of the party that'll serve their interests they'd use a tactic like that? Fuck off back to plebbit if you think "democracy" is about honest debate or serving the people, and shit like sabotage to win an election doesn't happen in the US same as Central Africa or Latin America etc.
>>11513716Next time they say 'fundamentals' they should get punched.
>>11513706short everything.
BUY GOLD?????
>>11513666>Checked devil tripsI need an exorcism now.
>>11513682spring -> summer -> winter -> fallwhy are they out of order?
>>11513732The point is that you would jump out of the way. People like you preach standing on the rails to save the conductor for political reasons. That's why you get run over.
>>11512340soon
>>11513745Fucking Deutsche Bank is one recession away from collapse. And guess what - it's a fucking recession.The word on the street is that they wanted a bailout but Merkel said "no".
>>11513760BUY GOLD. even if shit does not hit the fan this time its well known that consumer debt is about to overboil. sure you might loose some gains from sitting on the sidelines for a year but when the market goes down 10-30 percent and you get to buy back in youll be must richer for it plus gold will moon when the crash happens.
>>11513745Is shorting Deutsche Bank a good idea?
>>11513625Also thinking politicians are the ones conducting the train.....lmao....
>>11513777>reacts to you>blocks your path
>>11513765Because a chink painted it, I don't know. Prolly because there's water in the middle and they wanted to show ice.
>>11513583you are a buffoon if you think Trump & Republicans are on your side (the peoples side). Literally look at the historical performance of the Stock Market under Republican congress/presidential rule - utterly awful.funnily enough crashes like these are great because they can swoop up assets for cheap
>>11513716>fundamentals are very strongliterally the "dev team is solid" from crypto.
Short the market - the dialectic is in motion
> New ParadigmWhere was that on the chart again?The bulltards are really ignorant around here.
>>11513805it's the 'deep state', oligarchs running the fed
what did drumpf do now?
>>11513854It's a fucking cycle. He didn't do shit other then slightly extending it. If Hillary would be elected it would happen as well.
>>11513760don't buy anything, save all the money you can.
>>11513889what? do you think we are in for deflation?
>>11513760physical gold only
>DUDE JUST KEEP THE INTEREST RATE AT 0% TO PREVENT THE CRASHSooner or later it has to crash.
I can't wait for this shit to crash while I am accumulating money and crypto. Will stock up on those sweet Canadian weed stocks after people get chronically depressed. Why do you think most funds own tobacco companies? Because they have always been green when everything was burning. What do you think will happen with the weed stock shortly after the recession. Let me tell you, a giant GREEN DILDO
>>11513889So you have something to wipe your ass withOn the right hand side you can see a woman burning fiat in a fireplace.
>>11513581The US has Israel, Russia has Syria, Europe wants Iran.
>>11513907Low rates only encourage recklessness.
>>11513960It also causes diminishing purchasing power for the population.
>>11513802They were the last bank retarded enough to lend trump money so yes
>>11513290Dont you know?you're loaning your money to the bank.when they become over leveraged(they are) and loan out your money(they do) and fail(they have and will) your money will be forfeited and swept into an account to make sure the bank doesn't go insolvent.Look it up.
Who long commodities here?
for those who believe 'technology' will save shit - It's all over bloomberg that TI is cucked. They make shit for everyone else in the industry so they are used to make predictions.
>>11512573x666 worse
>>11513760No, buy gold seller stocks.
>>11513084Feb buyer here. Fuck.
>>11512340HOLY SHIT WHERE DO I BUY THE STUFFits low so i should get the most out of itis it bit coin?
>>11513840They're just as retarded as everyone else, otherwise they would have stopped Trump from even running.
>>11514022doesnt FDIC insure that money though?
>>11514203Yes goy, your money is (((insured)))
>>11514123No they are not. They are a big club and we're not in it. Trump is the perfect distraction from the looming collapse. US is not very different from USSR. It will go bankrupt as a country. Since the 70s US pays for everything by printing more dollars. This can't go on forever.I bet they will blame shit on algorithms again like black Wednesday.
>>11514203Deposit Reclassification, also known as a retail sweep program, is a Federal Reserve Board acknowledged practice that reduces your reserve requirement through classifying your institution’s checking accounts as savings, which are not subject to reserve requirements.Now read that VERY CAREFULLY.Look into it.
>>11512977Right on schedule to make Drumpf look badORANGE MAN BAD
>>11513688Is this what Trump supporters tweet about? Boooooring. We should have elected bernie
>>11514312Note that your bank HAS/HAD to notify you if they are participating in Deposit Reclassification.Say for instance, that bank fails.they have been using your checking and savings accounts as assets that they loan out and leverage.whoops your money is gone.sorry.
>>115143772008 was bail outWe Bail In 2018!
>>11514030noice
>>11512340>>Laughs in Muskrat.
>>11512573Much worse. Boomers can't handle 2% change per day.
>>11513823lmao where do you think all crypto memes come from
>>11512722everyone is leveraged because "stocks are safe" lol
nothing is happening.
HOW DO I FUCKING PROFIT FROM THIS?
>>11514672sell before the crash? it's not rocket science
>>11514272its all because of the germans
>>11514672Buy when the market bottoms out retard>>11514657https://www.cnbc.com/stocks/>nothing is happening.
>>11514439>reverse image search>reddit
>>11512340Not bad timing for me. I just sold a bunch of long positions. I'm definitely still going to lose money here, but I probably saved $20,000 just by selling to rethink some of my more risky positions.
>>11513323It was illegal in the same way underage drinking is illegal. Completely unenforceable t. Grandad gave me his illegal gold when he died
>>11513502i hope so
>>11512340So should I take out as many bank loans as I can and apply for every cc offer that has a year interest free, put it all into crypto, and declair bankruptcy when everyone else does so I get lost in the crowd?
>>11515185if I get singles you have to do it
>>11515212Alright :^)
Buy the dip
>>11515212nice
>>11512340Turn on fake news
FUUUUCK THAT WAS MY KIDS COLLEGE FUNDI JUST WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK. WHOEVER TOOK IT NEEDS TO GIVE IT BACK
>>11513304This. Buy up all the coins on the dip and hold.
>>11512518MU calls?you have to go back to /r/wallstreetbets
>>11515452>>11516287wait for nov 6 elections, it will dip harder
>>11512722The more I see this the more I think about moving my small lump of stock money into crypto.. I have about 1.2k usd in crypto right now but could bring in around 12k.. my stock is in the green but still
my micro investments are down is this where I lose it all?
>>11516737My, uh, friend says you should use that 12k to buy WAVES.
>-2%Top fucking kek
>>11512550debt debt and more debt. were collapsing in it. it wont just be a tech bubble that bursts.
HODL USD, THEY SAID
>>11513636Entirely depends on where you live bruv
>>11514672VIX and Shorts
>>115171675-17 months
I'm loaded up on low fixed rate mortgages for apartment buildings, my apartments are filling up as the housing market implodes while the central bank inflates away my debt with excessive money printing. Or nothing happens and I keep making profit on current rents. Triple win.
He bought! Dump it!>>11512340 >>11512346 >>11512374>>11513828 >>11517014 >>11517149
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT YET FAGGOTS.I`M NOT DONE ACCUMULATING CRYPTO
Who>invested money they can't afford to lose and contemplating ending their life boys?
>>11517374kek you're doing exactly what I would be doing and for the same reasons, if only I were smart and disciplined enough to save up the down payment on more real estate.
>>11517374I rent for small companies. Way better.The rent is higher and any damage they are directly liable for compensations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqmM_PjWcNg
>>11514439>is it bit coin?jeff bezo's skin looks very moisturizedcant wait til im a billionaire and i look that good
>>11514672short everything I suppose
>>11512340Is it time to hang out with Sayori?
>>11512340>sell 0.08% of your portfolio to send a warning>everyone thinks it's another recession>mfw
>>11518267 >>11517500 >>11517542BOGGED.COMOGGED
>>11512340
>>11514030>long commoditieshow ?
Buy bitcoin. This is why it was created
>>11513901We were heading into massive deflation but then fed came in and printed lots of money in the bailout.
>UVXY Inc. CEO Mike is pleased to announce smashing quarter earnings.
>>11513793merkel said to YOU, that they wont bail out db ;)
>>11514022based and blackpilled
>>11514048TI is dead. They only make missile guidance systems now.
>>11519115Its funny how TI can get away with making missile guidance systems because nobody views them as a cool or trendy company
>>11513425I hope USA goes down with this one.
>>11516737I moved half of my stock money ($9,000) into crypto two weeks ago. I have to say I don't really regret it.
ANd not a single fintard seems to note that Elliott wave theory is at play here. It’s a 30% correction setup with a double dip theme (3 wave corrective pattern down to 21-22 area for the S&P). Following that if sentiment doesn’t return may see a zig zag pattern but that’s only if we can’t continue to bring in more money from the rest of the world during that time. America has to stay on top in financial confidence. This has been triggered by cash flow away from credit debt into Corp debt floating rate, stalling housing market and riskier fundamentals. Some of you have correctly pointed out the tech bubble too. A crypto-based exchange modeled on the nyse or sp is likely to happen as a result. Thus the shift will begin away from dollar as reserve currency and toward crypto. To;dr 30% correction Panic about not returning to bull marketShift in global sentimentNew crypto based exchanges modeled on what we have,1000s of new IPOs on these exchanges Crypto becomes world currency. IMF will create crypto for this purpose backed by brics (Brazil, Russia, etc...)
buy the dip retards
>>11513793>>11513802Its one thing to be mean.Its another to be cruel.Its like kicking away the crutches of that aids invested cancer kid with only one leg.
>>11519405pls do not kill urself in few weeks unironically
>>11519115so who's actually dead, the guys making missile guidance or the women and children getting dunked on?
>>11512438>Mostly tech sector leading slump.facebook is the hot potato nobody wants
So what will happen today?
>>11519205I always find funny that the same company that makes front cameras for trendy iPhones (STM) also makes optics for drones and missiles.
time to play catch the falling knife
>>11512340How many of you were alive and not tit-sucking piss babies in 2001? Tech stocks shit the bed hard then, too. Outcome? Two month recession.Reminder that 2008 was an outlier.
>>11517570Please tell me more, I'm interested. You rent out offices? What size? For how long? Tell me everything
>>11517014Where did you get this screenshot of my blockfolio!!?!??
>>11512518October is historically a volatile month for stocks. The market is going to recover big starting in a week or 2
>>115203541. tech was a meme in 2001 and had relatively little impact on the wider economy; now the tech industry and its related fields are the core of wester economies2. The real problem isn't tech itself it's the enormous stock and bond bubble created by a decade of QE
Fuck me, I'm down 16% on Facebook already and no bottom in sightShould I keep on buying to lower my average?
>>11520396You are going to lose your shirt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ox-XplrKrE
>>11512411Almost all his tweets ans post are meant ironcly he even says this like 100 times in his podcasts how people think his "he economy is doing great" posts are meant greatIts a fucking joke u autist
>>11520407
Daily reminder it's red October.
The only real bombs are the ones planted in bull portfolios.
>>11519574Dip bought.
>>11521325Kek
Who else getting absolutely motherfucking rekt right now? I've had so many good trades open last week, went short and told myself to just close my eyes for 7 days and it's going to be alright.However, I went into day trading and fucking lost 40% in 7 days, instead of being up 150% if I just left my positions run. Absolutely buying every top and selling every bottom, fucking hell. Every single time for the last 7 days this week the same, just when I think it's gonna reverse it does the opposite and then the same shit so I'm burning through my money like a retard.I had nice short on DE30 @ 11700, but fucking changed my mind and now shorted @ 1200, put on a stop loss and will just close my eyes. I don't even feel this shit anymore. It's a fucking joke, idk what's wrong. Should probably hit a gym today to think and feel more rationally, because I've been a mess for the past week. fuck me.
>>11521412Not me. Subscribed to a crypto signals channel, portfolio up 10% from a week ago.
>>11521683Nobody cares about your shitty crypto ad channel fucking retard, fuck off
>>11513020Where does it go?
I see instead of wojacks we get ghosted. I cant read these shitposts between plating if anons don't post
aaaannnnd dow jones went up 300 points a day later, nice FUD cryptards
>>11522662Thank goodness. Now I can finish market dumping this retirement for more crypto.
Dumped all my money into Facebook and now I'm down 14 percentHelp
>>11522743When I bought FB in the ICO it dropped to about 1/2 in the following months. That was when it was an undervalued stock led by a kid that wouldn't play the banker games.Dumped it earlier this year for massive gains, though.
>>11522743Just fucking sell it. I did today. It’s going way down.
>bank of america recoveringI left crypto because of this kind of rollercoaster bullshit.I just wanted to get comfy dividends.
>>11522789I still believe in Instagram and whatsapp thoughwhile reading books on the perfect long term index fund portfolio I'm doing shit like this
>>11522743>facebookWhat innivation did they reveal in the past three years that led you to the conclusion investing might be a smart choice?
>>11522818AI is going to overwhelm reality and FB will be one of the companies it emanates from. They need to fix adversarial examples first, though.
>>11521709
>>11523508>he fell for the ai hype
So guys how much more low interest money was printed to ease the panic and raise the Dow back 300 points?
>>11521683Link?
>>11523764Guess I did. Spent the last four years learning about unsupervised learning. Alphago happened, position accordingly
>>11512560Last time it started with a 2.1% drop. Then 12% the next day, then .....
>up 300 pointsI WANT TO GET OFF MR. JONES' WILD RIDE
Today may close high but tomorrow it will be carnage. It's always 'this time it's different' until it's not.US and Europe will be fucked. Europe more because of the cancer that Euro has become. It's an experiment that might just blow up in Junker's face.