/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11498539
$BLIN

WE ENDING GREEN TODAY BOYS

inb4 zerohedge brainlet posts

>omg in a recession you want to sell before it happens

Implying that this is an actual recession and not just an adjustment like always

stop recovering or the anime girl gets it

So what the hell is going on ?
Red week green week?
I was going to go bear today now i want to buy spy calls

FNGU green

Here's how NOT to lose money during this period of high volatility:
> Buy periodically, for example every month. If you can buy more often due to very low or no transaction fees, buy more frequently
> Buy a fixed $ amount every time (f.e. $1000 every month)
> Buy regardless of whether the market goes up or down, just do it every month
> Diversify, buy index ETFs (MSCI World is a good example)
> Put in additional capital (f.e. 1 month's worth) for every 10% drop
> Don't expect to get rich quick, have an investment horizon of at least 20 years
> NEVER SELL
> Apply the above rules for 90% of your portfolio
> Allow yourself 10% of your portfolio to do dumb shit like day trade, option gambling, meme stocks etc.

Why is Tesla in a constant state of insanity? 350 to 250 over and over

>>11498575
>send this to musk
>short tesla
>profit

Teach me about options.

>>11498575

No.

> w-were back
This same thing happened last week
Tomorrow S&P will start +2% but go back down to -3% by EOD

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Hodl4Lyfe

>>11498566
I remember people saying this back in Q3/Q4 2007. Then it slid for months. Then Q4 2008 happened.

>bears trying to run with the bulls today


>>11498575

>>11498575
You crossed a line bitch

>>11498607
You have the option to be a faggot

>>11498566
we can't sustain this kind of GDP growth unless we start accepting immigrants so we can have a larger labor force.

Lunch weed pullback held. Intraday higher low is in.

Owning tesla is pretty much worth it just to sell covered calls and puts I think. The IV and bonus of being the house for all the gambling going on makes Tesla so worth it

>>11498623
Based.
> New Paradigm
Look at where that puts us on "the chart"

>>11498645
>>we can't sustain this kind of GDP growth unless we start accepting immigrants so we can have a larger labor force.
we do accept immigrants, we are also getting tougher on illegal immigrants now

we still have plenty of regular immigrants

>>11498634
I remember zerohedge saying this in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, early 2018

>>11498636

Forklift ambulance with pallet got me.

bulls fags kidding themselves once again

EVERYTIME

>>11498675
I don't care about Zerohedge.

But I guess they'll be right twice a day, since they were so wrong for years, maybe that's it this time.

But that's not the point.

so how r u guys preparing for the incoming bear caused by dems winning the house

Punished GALT making a comeback

SHILLING ITW TODAY

Look at the business, look at the dividend growth. Invest 60K with DRIP today and in 14 years you'll get 35K in dividends per year every year (if historical averages hold true).

>>11498555
Nice repeating digits. What's the rundown on this one?

>>11498592
This isn't fun though

>>11498592
I want to see a study of someone dollar cost averaging spy calls over long periods. wonder how that might work out.

Give me a good meme to buy

>Colgate-Palmolive on Friday

How far will TSLA go tmr?

thanks for the cheapies bulls

>>11498748
as far as it needs to , to save my retarded call i bought after they closed the SEC investigation and it shit the bed

>>11498733
here's the story of someone only buying SPY at market peaks, lets see how it works out for him

https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2014/02/worlds-worst-market-timer/

>>11498673
>that pic
Lol. If Americas country is fat

>>11498727
being financial independent is more fun than being poor

Who else bought MSFT cheapies today?

holy fuck having full on dejavu right now, something must have changed in the matrix.
is everything still green while tesla tanks?

>>11498748
+/- 20%

>>11498794
>+/- 20%

Sounds about right.

>>11498746
not sure about this one...pretty expensive for what you get but PG kicked ass last week so might be a good gamble

>>11498786
I'm shorting

What bear?

>>11498794
I'm up 15% right now. I can either set a limit sell or a stop loss but not both at the same time. What should I do?

>>11498596
You are profiting from this, right Anon?

>>11498769
that is a very amazing story and uplifting actually
thanks.

>>11498806
Yeah because PG has the Pods monopoly. Colgate USED to sell laundry products

>>11498813
Trailing?

>>11498769
>>11498825
The story is nice but it doesn't consider being forced to sell at market low due to retiring/emergencies.

TESLA TO $420

>>11498823
andrew left betrayed my puts. feels bad. it's very confusing because he is personally suing tsla for securities fraud

>>11498823
Really depends how you look at it. I took big shots and am okay in relation to the risk adjusted potential gains. Overall, nah.

Meaning I took a lot, a lot of shots at huge returns, and compared to that risk I'm okay now.

>>11498596
The Jews dont like musk after he named (((them))) on twitter.

That feel when you lose 10% last week and make 11% today...

>>11498854
>boomer detected

>>11498835
Oh and Unilever and KMB are also OK

>>11498873
It's a good feel.

>>11498866
Yeah but most of what Musk does is infrastructure related. Space/Cars/Tunnels. These just enable higher growth opportunities. He isn't in a position like google or facebook that would be an important thing to be controlled by institutions.

They can let him do his thing and not feel threat

anyone else thinking the worst isnt over yet?

>>11498776
country size proportional to immigrates coming in

>>11498885
>sold my Clorox and PG too soon

>tfw now have 4 figures in my portfolio

Am I a big boy yet

>>11498825
we're gonna make it

>>11498900
I dont think you understand what happens when you name the Jew. They will not stop trying to destroy you as a person until they succeed.

>>11498913
good job anon

>>11498913
Bought into WTR today at 34.55
This dip was an amazing entry point, so I took the opportunity and added $200 to my portfolio to buy it with

>>11498908
>selling PG
>ever

anon, why would you ever sell it?

POWER HOUR
PLACE YOUR BETS GENTLEMAN
GIVE SPY YOUR ENERGY

ALT

>>11498951
It's already over.

Who's ready for power hour to begin?

Last earnings tsla jumped almost 100 dollars in a week after.
>>11498915

is it better to diversify your dividend stocks or just go all in on one divy stock?

I'm thinking of buying a commodity like Shell or Chevron and hedge it with something techy like MSFT or ATT or Verizon

>GE
THIS IS IT, WE'RE FINALLY PUMPING BOYS

DIVIES FOR DINNER TONIGHT

>>11498978
put all your eggs in one basket, that's the old saying.

If you're even slightly green I suggest selling now before the Algos dump this shit.

All the volume is coming now.

>>11498947
I thought it would go sideways more

>>11499011

I need a dump because I'm placing a buy on close order. is it coming? I'm holding off buying until I see some lower action

Reeee why didn't I buy the MFST dip. It will dip tomorrow. R r r ight.. ?

>>11498782
if you're a boring ass boomer now it isn't gonna change anything when you're rich

I sold everything this morning and went short. I lost everything today.

>>11498636
Did he died? Also sauce so I can show my emt buddies pls.

>>11499058
sorry to hear frand, i got raped last week but im not giving up.
dollar cost averaging might be the best way for you. in fact i gamble with side money and max my ira every year and dont touch that shit.

>>11499043
>wasting money
>fun

boomers are the most fun

>>11498901
>anyone else thinking the worst isnt over yet?

Depends on the pattern of the rebound. If it sets a lower higher followed by bearish breake, then yeah, lower low is possible.

>literally down 10% over the past year on my non-US fund
wtf?

>>11499058
>I sold everything this morning and went short. I lost everything today.

Quarterly reminder than going short after a significant retrace is the same as going long after a significant pump.

>>11499011
>volume is coming now
What do you mean? Volume on the S&P 500 is at 2B which is already higher than it's been the previous days and we still have an hour to go.

>>11499115
dont do it spy
dont do it

>>11499058
BEARS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

Green dick and balls pattern on the Canopy 4h chart.

bears btfo

I'm going all in on nvda if it hits 200

>>11499103
DAX30 is like 12% down the past year

So is my country's index, OMXC25 CAP

BEARS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>11499041
MSFT is going to 200 and there's no brakes.

OOOOOOOOOOO

>>11499174
what's going on? is socalism done for or are these things just way undervalued?

My amd 31 call will be in the money tomorrow right... right!?

>>11499222
AMD is basically a penny stock and it's going to zero unless Apple suddenly drops intel and goes AMD or something but we all know that's not happening.

>>11499197
Brexit. Italy. Saudi Arabia. Refugees. Government instability. Diesel.

Germany is a shit show.

>>11499222
Your digits guarantee it

>>11499237
apple are more likely to start fabricating their own silicone.

>>11499255
exactly. AMD is done.

can someone post the earnings calender pls?

the DAQ is Back

>cash out this morning
>gonna buy some more cheap puts before close

Enjoy getting powell'd, bulls.

nasdaq green again, thank you, power hour!

>Chinese fabs are all subverted by Chinese spy hardware
>Intel is one of the last companies in the US, which means they arent part of the Chinese spy botnet that modifies your OS at whim
I wonder who could be shilling against Intel? hmmmmm

https://images.emojiterra.com/twitter/v11/512px/1f914.png

>>11499276
amd will never be "done" they will always be floated by Intel to avoid monopoly claims but they will never moon.

>>11499222

all tech stocks are going to get BTFO unless earnings and outlook are absolutely god-teir

>>11499076
idk, random int thread

can probably just reverse google search it, or look up running with the bulls accident


>>11499286

>>11499237
apples chips are getting really good

>>11499238
after I posted that I realized EU weakening was probably sinking markets but I had no idea about how much the Volkswagen scandal affected diesel sales
>Saudi Arabia
the journalist thing has that much of an impact?

>>11499313
This too. Intel and nvidia both love AMD being alive for this reason. AMD is hard to die when their competition wants them to live. nvidia will always leave some space for AMD for this reason.

>>11499318

thx

>>11499318
>NOC and ALGN tmrw
>RTN and AMZN Thursday

Retard with bond questions here.

>>11498585
>not unless the bond issuer defaults. if you buy a bond that you are planning on holding till expiration, you know exactly what you're getting (assuming no default). that's why bonds are known as fixed income assets

So if I don't sell the bond before the maturity date I'll get the same value I paid for it guaranteed?

>when people say "bond prices are going down" they mean that the bond you just bought at 4.95% is less cool than the new bond that came out today at 5.05%. if you sold a bond right after bond rates unexpectedly went up, you might end up selling at a lower price than you paid for it. this is why bond ETFs go down, because the managers are constantly buying and selling bonds rather than buying and holding till maturity

Lets take this bond as an example:
https://www.big.pt/OndeInvestir/Obrigacoes/Info/PTOTEQOE0015

That bond is currently trading at 124.12€ on Degiro. If I bought 10 bonds costing me 1241.2€ and held until maturity date would I get the 1241.2€ back on maturity? Do I get 5,65% on every coupon date? Even the next one on 2019-02-15?

>>11498539
Alright lads I went all-in to ATVI @ $71.00

How fucked am I, and how long do i need to hodl for?

NONONO IT KEEPS RECOVERING

>>11499373
yea 90% of my portfolio reports this week, 75% of it wednesday and thursday

Bears on suicide watch. Market can't be stopped.

>>11499348
Saudi Arabia is Germany's second largest defense industry customer. People and politicians are now outraged that we do business with barbaric killers and call for a complete halt of arms exports.

>>11499432
Communists try to crash it but they can't stop Daddy's bull

>>11499408
pls respond

>>11499313
i dunno why but i always find this cute, like intel is tsundere or something, always shitting on AMD because intel wants majority market but when things get tough for AMD they hold hands

>>11499408
You good anon, hodl

>>11498809
>shorting MSFT

time to teach you a lesson to never bet against Microsoft.

>>11499473
it's more like a bully who holds the dweeb in a head lock and gives them noogies but when the teacher comes round they act like they are friends and they just had their arm on their shoulder.

>>11499432
The market is lower right now than it was yesterday

The only way bears can take ALL of the bulls money is to give them a green day to pray that it's over.

And then continue to crash this market.

It's gonna dump on close. Nobody wants to stay long on this shitshow overnight.
Tomorrow will open 1% lower.
Screencap this.

>>11499554
whatever already bought today. the bounce off the lower low seemed pretty convincing

Do I buy MSFT now or tomorrow ? Or do I average cost my other stocks.

>>11499380
> I'll get the same value I paid for it guaranteed?
>would I get the 1241.2€ back on maturity?
not necessarily. you'd get the amount the bond was originally issued for, which will be almost exactly how much you paid for it, but it might be more or less than you paid for it
>Do I get 5,65% on every coupon date?
no, that's the rate per year, which might be compounded multiple times per year depending on the bond. so if you got paid 4x per year, you'd get 1/4 of 5.65% per cupon date

Let me give you an example of a US note. When the US wants to issue a $1000 bond, they ask the market "will you loan me $1k for 10 years if I pay you 1% per year? No? How about 2% per year? No? 2.5% per year? Ok perfect thanks sold, you give me $1k, I give you the bond. You get 2.5% per year and $1k in 10 years."

If everything was static forever, that bond would always sell for $1k at the market. But things change and intrest rates have been going up. Lets say tomorrow, the US wants to issue a new bond but no one will buy it unless they get paid 3% per year. Then your bond is now worth less! If you bought your bond today once rates were at 3%, you'd probably only pay $950 for your old 2.5% bond, but you'd still get 2.5% of $1k per year and you'd still get $1k at the maturity date. What happened is that the price of your old bond decreased in the market until it still yields 3% per year just like the new bond (otherwise people would just buy the new bond instead). But the underling economics of the bond doesnt change, you still get paid 2.5% of $1k per year and get $1k at maturity.

>>11499590
buy now, yesterday, and tomorrow. You can never have enough MSFT

>>11498539
OBJECTION !

>>11499408
Hodl forever
I feel ATVI is a blue chip of the future

>started down $2000
>now only down $395
Bullet dodged, your move bears.

Giving false hope to the bulls :) enjoy your bull for a few more weeks :) see you at 0

> See you again tomorrow anons

>>11499766
good night bobo

the secret is to zoom in until you see an uptrend. if that doesnt work, zoom out

>>11499766

>>11499722
i mean they still fleced u out of $400

>25,183.56
>Price decrease133.85
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA """""""""bulls""""""""""" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That final minute volume spike tho

Some of you are alright. Don't go to the market tomorrow

>>11499789
this guy gets it

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I’m up .33%, I’m loving my choice to do very little but open and close quick little leveraged SPY shorts/longs. I’m having fun in the market again! Could have made more if I was less cautious, but my charts didn’t support what would have been the best moves today.

>>11499764
Sorry, you only have time until the mid terms. We're off to the moon afterwards.

>>11499822
+0.5%
Bought all the dips this morning

This is now a based elon thread, post em

>>11499843

>>11499822
I sold my sqqq and TVIX at their peak today

Still sick of this market wide boggining though

>tfw wish I bought more, but know there are no guarantees.

I told an anonymous to buy RIV for guaranteed 10-20% gains by the end of the week.

Turns out it was possible by the end of the day today.

>>11499805
Oh no a whole 0.7% of my portfolio!

>>11499496
It's a company managed by a poo in loo doing nothing but mediocrity for the last decade.

Noone excited about Windows anymore and azure cant keep up with AWS.

>>11499822
Great day.

>>11499942
you really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Uh guys.... hold that bull
Pompeo making a sudden press conference...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSIcLRpxNaM

>>11499970
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11499961
haha fundamentals? not in this market

>>11499843
I go back and forth on Elon but as of right now he's based. I really want SpaceX to work out

>>11499970
Better audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TZfHjhRz38

>>11499970
"in light of recent tweets by mr Musk, nasa will have it funding removed and redirected into advance waifu ai and robotics"

did not see that one coming

>>11500002
Place your bets, how bad will Trump fuck up the market this time.

>>11499766
gn bobo

>>11500012
hard mode put your money where your mouth is and short somehting

>>11500002
oh lawd at least I didn't go all in today so I can average down if shtf

>>11500012
>My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw anime forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.

TRUMP NO

>>11499722
> started down $1000
> now down $2000
> would've been green if i didn't have weak hands

>>11498539
any good 4chan based /smg/ discords?

I will invite you to a private /biz/ crypto server if so.

>>11499634

Thank you, I believe I understood everything in your example. What I don't get however are specific bonds that I'm looking at on Degiro.

The following bond: http://en.boerse-frankfurt.de/bonds/portugal-_republikeo-obr_201324-Bond-2024-ptoteqoe0015

Looking at the price graph it seems the bond started trading at 100€, so I assume that's the value you'll get on maturity. Since it's trading at 124,12 it means that I'm paying over 20% of it's value, is this correct?

Why would I buy that over something like this one where the value is much closer to the initial value:
http://en.boerse-frankfurt.de/bonds/Portugal-_RepublikEO-Obr_200919-Bond-2019-PTOTEMOE0027

>>11500059
Hello SEC nigger

>>11500087
Fuck off bitch I'm trying to learn

NIGGER

>>11499970

orange buffon making all of us lose more money

>>11500002
I just noticed Fox isn't reporting this as urgent. Apocalypse canceled.

>Hello everyone
>Today we announce Hillary Clinton is finally going to prison

>>11500059
>I will invite you to a private /biz/ crypto server if so.
imagine thinking people care about this

More sanctions on Chiyna

>>11500080
>Since it's trading at 124,12 it means that I'm paying over 20% of it's value, is this correct?
I'd say its value is what its trading at. Bond markets are pretty rational. What probably happened is that newer bonds have lower yields (intrest rates are declining in Portugal?) so the price of old bonds increased. You'll get more in intrest, but a smaller payout in the end.

The second bond you posted has a much smaller yield (5.65% vs 4.75%)

>>11499970
holy fuck the host just asked viewers to share this link on 4chan and other chans

I referred my coworker and got this stock, should I just hold it until it goes up a little then sell it for the buying power? Or would it be a good idea to hang onto it for a year?

>>11500144
4chan is becoming normie tier, we need a new hangout. or maybe we can just shill certain stocks to make bank off normies

>>11500000
>00000
based

>>11498707
I would love to see a buyer and a ride to $10-15.

>>11499970
Did he just shat himself or something? It's taking too fucking long

>>11500000
dat Elon get

There are two private companies that excite me the most : SpaceX and Boston Dynamics

I wish I could own SpaceX shares

>>11500107
XXXDDDDDDDDDDDD

MAGA!!!!!!

just bought a $2 lottery ticket for the lols, and fleeting adrenaline spike that ill get as I look at my numbers

Friendly reminder that you can deduct up to $100 dollars of gambling losses a year. losses such as lottery, casino, any illegal betting (yes you must report illegal income, or IRS gives you extra pain). so unless you gamble at the casino often, theres no reason not to buy one or two once a year

>>11500171
>>able to convince one person he knows that its free stock=free money, not a fucking scam (shut up bloomberg)
if you think it will go up, or its less than 1% of your portfolio, then hold

if you are using pocket change triple digits, then sell for secured profit

>>11499943
Congratulations. What happened?

>>11500002
illegals btfo

Sorry guys, but as far as I know, the only thing I see here is a textbook dead cat bounce from last week

>My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw immigration forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.

POMPEO NO

>>11500265
I held SPY daily puts from yesterday since I ended flat, and here I am. Bought a lottery ticket today to see if I can keep the streak up.

>>11500196
there's a good chance of a buyer in the relatively near future, stay patient

>>11500002
pretty boring desu but was a bit odd when that cloaked figure came up and started whispering in his ear

>>11500299
Has mexico asked for our military's help in removal of the gypsies that invaded their land?

>>11500299
If only things are that simple...
We would stop spending time and efforts dealing with bullshit and exploring the Galaxy

>>11500303
That's awesome, anon. Good stuff.

>>11500313
I have strong hands, but it's a bumpy ride. I averaged down again so it will be satisfying if it works out.

What stocks should I buy when I win the Powerball?

high yield dividend, blue chip stocks and become a major shareholder of HMNY and rebrand the business into anime waifu sexbot manufacturer.

>>11500130

Assuming that the coupon rate is based on the initial bond value.

The 4.75% bond has a 14JUN19 maturity date, assuming I bought just one bond right now would that mean that I would pay 103,07€ for it and get 100€ + 4.75€ on maturity next year? (about 1.68€ or 1.7% profit)

The 5.65% on has a maturity date of 15FEB24, if I bought just one bond now for 124.12€ would that mean I would get 5.65€ per year and 100€ + 5.65€ on maturity. (about 5.65€ * 6 - 24.12 = 9.78€ or 9.78% profit)

The profit difference is what's confusing to me here, but I'm probably fucking something up in the calculations.

>>11500364
Please tell me thats a woman

>>11500457
So you know to avoid her? We all know what a faggot you are, comfy. This a grill until someone offers proofs.
Now get back to work. Sweep and mop behind the make line.

That was the most hyped letdown press conference ever

>>11498539
Look at UPS tomorrow if it has great earnings this means AMZN is probably getting hype, everyones going to be distracted by Tesla, hit that shit hard at 9:30.

>>11500178
>becoming

>>11500178
Im not a newfag, I've been here all summer.

>tfw markets red tomorrow

>>11500562

>>11499076
do you guys just sit around all day talking about wounds @_@
also you should be able for tell he lived

>>11499076
he got gored in the front and back of the neck

he ded

>>11500562
>small specs mostly net short the Daq according to COT

surely they wont get fucked like all the other times

>>11499058
:(

>>11499943
:)

>>11500491
>_> RUDE

Also hermaphrodies are not gay

>>11500349
mexico is complicit. they're letting the caravan through because of the trade war.

>>11500456
its not fair to compare two assets unless you hold them for the same time period (otherwise you'd come to the conclusion that SPY is better than SPY because after 10 years you have a higher return than after 1 year). once the 14JUN19 bond expires, you can buy another bond just like it. you can do that a few times before the 14FEB24 bond expires. if you do the math on that (holding carrying the 19 bond forward several years), you'll probably find they are worth the same

imagine ending your life because you wanted to stand in front of a bull that is about 25x stronger than you ever will be as a human and completely wasting your life

lmao third worlders spanish

>>11500364
stop posting this gay shit nigger

>>11500606
his name Leopoldo Cruz but cannot find any good info if he lifed or died x.x

I've been away for about a month but my CRON puts are playing out pretty nice.

Drew these memelines on sep 20

Reminder that the SPY will make a massive tail on the monthly candlestick to go above the trend

after union pacific earnings, its all Green from here on out

>>11500726
well all except that brown one on the bull trap

>>11500728
UNP reports in two days. You think we will go green before November 6th?

>>11498539
>Return of the bull edition
>Red markets
>Red futures

The absolute state of bull prepping cucks

>>11500728
>not so fast you naughty boi

>>11500810
>t. shorted the bottom f the correction

>>11500809
Should be tomorrow, and yeah we should be at all times again a few months into 2019, I dont know about november

>>11500828
based Powell is doing a fine job shaking out small specs. I preferred Yellen of course, but volatility is fun too

>>11500839

>t. longed at the market peak after a 10 year bull run

oh boy

>>11500828
BASED POWELL

>>11500864
how many times do you need to be told: we've only been in a bullrun since 2016

>>11500875

Suit yourself sweetie :))

>>11500828
>>11500856
>>11500866

October 31st bomb coming in hot, right in time to shake up the mid-terms in a deep state coup against Trump. Any coincidence he is calling out Powell for making conditions too tight after their October 10th briefing?

>>11500856
Yellen recently released a statement saying she agrees the rate hikes need to happen
Powell is doing the right thing

>>11500884
how come 2015 doesnt count?

>>11500884
hey sweetie, did you know that 2000 and 2008 are called Crashes

Crashes are not corrections, which we have had plenty of the past 10 years

>>11500916
it does
We had big corrections in 2010, 2012, and 2015
Beartards are just bottom shorting tards

>>11500902
Both houses of congress will stay red and the market will react in green
Ted Cruz already used his plasma spear to elimate the deep state pedophiles plotting against trump, all we need to worry about is the radioactive megasloths awakening from their 3000 year hibernation

>>11500643

Makes sense, thanks man. So it seems picking any bond will most likely yield about the same returns as of the time of purchase.

Assuming I'm expecting interest rates to increase in the near future and I wanted to invest in bonds now, I should probably buy short term bonds so they mature just in time for the new bonds with the increased interest rates taken into account, correct?

>>11500920
>>11500931

"It' different this time!"

I was only a STEMlord

I loved Elon so much, I had all the hats and flamethrowers

I pray to Elon every night before bed, thanking him for being the ultimate human

"Elon is love" I say; "Elon is life"

My dad hears me and calls me a faggot

I know he was just jealous of Elon’s wealth

I called him a short seller

He slaps me and gives me books about how car manufacturing should work

I'm crying now, and my face hurts

I lay in bed and it's really cold

Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me

It's Elon

I am so happy

He whispers into my ear "The shorts took my wife again."

He grabs me with his powerful genius hands, dirty after his 120 hour shifts and puts me down onto my hands and knees

I'm ready

I spread my ass-cheeks for Elon

He penetrates my butt-hole

It hurts so much but I do it for Elon

I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water

I push against his force

I want to please Elon

He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love

My dad walks in

Elon looks him straight in the eyes and says "Sorry pedo guy”

Elon leaps out the window, tries to land into his Tesla, and fucks up the landing, before screeching about fake news

Elon is love. Elon is life.

>>11500947
youre the one saying its different this time

>>11500935

Their point is to dump the markets right before the mid terms to try and get the dems to win, after Trump has been claiming the market rally to his. I doubt it will succeed but that's not to say the markets won't tank

>>11500884
bulltards rekt

>>11500961
>Rising rates
>Tightening dollar supply
>EMs bust
>China bust
>Record corporate debt as well

>no no market gween forever XDDD

Yeah okay retard

>>11500562

>>11500937
>Makes sense, thanks man. So it seems picking any bond will most likely yield about the same returns as of the time of purchase.
Close. Bonds issued from the same entity expiring at the same day will will be priced the same. Typically, investors want more intrest if the bond term is longer, especially if there is risk of increasing rates. So a bond expiring in 5 years will probably have a higher yield than a bond expiring in 1 year.

>Assuming I'm expecting interest rates to increase in the near future and I wanted to invest in bonds now, I should probably buy short term bonds so they mature just in time for the new bonds with the increased interest rates taken into account, correct?
Yes. However, note that many bond yields are nearing inversion, meaning that yields for 30 year bonds are about the same as yields for 2 year bonds. This basically means that investors expect intrest rates will remain low for 30 years and want to "lock in" todays "high" rates for the next 30 years.

Reminder that in our meme market, the central bank is literally the only thing that determines anything

WHY DO THE KEKS CARE IF WE GO BEAR

I GET TO BUY AT EVEN LOWER VALUATIONS, I LOOK FORWARD TO A 50% OFF SALE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR

nothing is better to destroy weak pussies than bear markets where I take all their market sells and make 100% annually for the next half decade, minimum

someone just dumped 5000 shares of MSFT @ 105.51 in afterhours just now :/

what does this mean?

>>11500982
>he doesnt know how the spx rolls over
>he thinks rising rates and QT is bearish
>he thinks he knows more than banks buying up cheapies
Ok small spec

Get ready for a catch down of the markets

>>11500982
Can you explain the fourth circle where it says credit cycle peak? The line there just stops and hasn't gone in any direction.

>>11501033
its the peak just trust me bro

>>11501026
>>he thinks rising rates and QT is bearish

Yeah in the face of biblical debt, you would be retarded to think it's anything but. How do you expect to finance that debt after all the resource mis-allocation from the days of zero percent interest? You sell equity, accrue cash and finance the debt or face bankruptcy.

I know biz is a very low IQ board but that's just something new entirely

>>11500982
>>11501033
Him own graphs kinda proves otherwise. The peak ratio has been going up for every subsequent crash, and the ratio today is only as high as it was in 2008. So there's a bit more room to grow the debt if we are going by long term trend.

what the fuck happened to nvidia in real life

>>11501063

Don't say I didn't warn you guys

>>11501057
>he keeps posting these outdated and debunked charts like smart money index

I think we're done here buddy

>>11501085
>"The market will make a new all time hi- "

Were you the guy flaunting his 40 dollar FNGU gains?

>>11501057
Charts and drawings are useless you need to have clear systems to backtest them, results might surprise people. Visually most charts looks nice but when you set rules for buy and sell signals it's a total bummer. And even when done correctly 95% of strats are curve fitted thus not really forward tradeable. Not saying good strats exists but not these public talking heads they definitely have no clue what they are doing

>>11501071
they went too far

>>11501211
too far into what?

NDLS

>>11501347
shilling ray tracing

>>11501363
word the future is quantum modeling, treat light as a wave not a particle

>>11501084
That chart doesn't show shit numb nuts try again faggot bear

That feel when you know degen trades are the only way out...

what in the fuck is the point of any of this

>>11501436
we're trying to efficiently allocate money in capital markets for the betterment of society

i think i shud quit options trading, im down 700$....

>>11501459
hehehe wait until you're down $7000 buddy

>>11498810
I wish I could make $200 a day just buy buying and selling stocks...but I'm illiterate in the world of finance, and would probably go broke trying.

>>11501450
wrong

we're trying to make money for ourselves because tthere is no other choice if you dont want to starve to death ont he street

>>11501515
right and the way to do so its to efficiently allocate money

When will it be time to buy Ford?

>>11501361
Sorry fren

>>11501567
after earnings to determine if a turnaround is possible

>>11501567
you dont get any returns if you dont take risk

>>11501464
literally working for 14$hr while i study, not gonna have tht much money

bought a tesla call yesterday for shits.

Wish I bought more obv

What price would SMG buy back into NVDA at?

>>11499856
Funny, I work in the same building as tesla and I saw a new employee pool today, looked like a massive diversity hire to me.

>>11501744
I personally like AMD around 20 and NVDA 200. Feel like around those prices it's safe to buy in even if you don't hit the bottom.

Some Swedish camel said she was down to breed, we lost touch. hmu

is anybody else here buying on this dip:

QQQ, QLD, SPY, SSO, DDM

>>11501925
>buying on this dip
We haven't even scratched the dip bulltard.

There's no way $T isn't mooning tomorrow morning.

>>11501996
>T always puts fake charges on my bill
>always have to argue them away

I fucking hate T and the midwest. It will probably moon, but I hope it crashes and burns.

>>11501744
Under $200.

>>11502022
I sold my NVDA a bit too early to the big RTX runup, still +, but thought they would get earlier than they did. The big AMD/nvda runup surprised me completely. People took to long to recognize the China issue to both companies.

Nikkei just opened green as fuck.

I'M FINANCIALLY RUINED

>>11502215
why new jersey though?

>>11502019
AT&T has a huge presence all throughout the country and unlike Comcast, it's pushing cheap, symmetrical gigabit fiber in just about every city it operates. Where I live, I've seen nothing but AT&T crews working day and night, and I live in one of the most populated cities in the country (the world, too). I'm pretty sure they're installing fiber cables underground.

With that much work and expansion being done, there's no way Comcast isn't going to take a huge hit.

>>11502042
Same. I sold NVDA at $275. I always kicked myself for selling too early, but I guess I should be thankful now. Holy crap did it fall.

>>11502228
no state income tax on the dividends
also decent yield

>>11502250
>living in a place with state income tax.
sorry fren. that must suck balls.

>>11502234
>cheap gigabit fiber
Not for me at least.

I have garbage, overpriced internet quality from AT&T, though they claim to be planning for fiber in my town in the next few years. Comcast can take a hit or whatever, that's also garbage. Verizon is the only ISP that isn't 100% hot garbage from my experience living in the south, DC, west coast, PNW, and now midwest.

I wouldn't be surprised if half of AT&T's internet revenue is from putting bullshit charges on peoples bills and betting them on not pointing out their bullshit.

>>11502241
I thought it would get a bunch of buyers around 230-240.

200 seems to be the next big buy in level imo and that might be earlier than bottom. Too much china rev

You guys ready for the semiconductor sector to bring the entire market down?

>>11499822
Red again, but better than this morning. At one point this morning, I was down $600. Absolutely killing me.

>>11502293
ML and gaming demand still exists. I don't see AMD/NVDA that fucked.

>mfw my TSLA call @302 exp friday i bought a month ago will is in the money tomorrow

>>11502293
Unironically came here to post this

Asia red as hell

RIP

>>11502331
>>11502336

>>11502262
i'm ok with taxes

actually kind of proud to pay them, although when i see stories about corruption or cost overruns on shit i get really fucking mad.

but at the same time i'm not looking to expand my tax liability

>>11502351
what do you get in state services though?
vs a state that doesnt have tax like mine

>>11502347
Chad NPCs get all the pussy

>>11502351
The idea of the noble taxpayer is gone. Now taxpayers are an amorphous blob of indistinguishable white people.
Thank you for your service.

>>11502293

The semiconductor sector will bring the market down in combination with emerging markets and housing and student loans and corporate bonds and

>>11500000

He's a good businessman, he just needs to stop smoking weed and delete twitter.

>>11500000
Checked.

>>11502351
I've had some liberal friends say "I'm happy to pay more in taxes and I want a higher tax rate."
That really rubbed me the wrong way, I should have gone off on them but I was polite and changed the subject.
If you want to play more, be by fucking guest but keep the fuck out of it me out of it.

>>11502436
They're okay subsidizing the importation of a brown slave class in order to maintain their lifestyle. I'd be okay with higher taxes if it wasn't funding the degeneration of my race and culture.

>>11502302
Which games have come out that actually push the limits of the current batch of cards?

>>11502436

I mean there are people out there who want nothing but usage taxes and probably would look at you the same way you look at your liberal friends.

>>11502357
that's a huge question, and it's a great question that taxpayers should be asking themselves more.

i got free tuition to rutgers and went to some really exceptional schools (though that has more to do with property taxes). parleyed my education into a great job. we have what i would say are pretty effective social services and infrastructure, though seemingly declining because it's not keeping up with traffic increases. we have serious deficits in mass transit. there's a lot here, in the sense of infrastructure that allows industry to flourish in a tight space with big business. cutting edge hospitals and medical research. rutgers is a "public ivy" and you wouldn't believe how many asians pay enormous amounts in international tuition to study here.

i don't know where you live but from what i've read about other states, the social servants are getting starved out. like teachers in kansas need 2-3 jobs to survive and shit. but for all i know, my teachers had 2-3 jobs too.

>>11502470
Why does night /biz/ always turn into /pol/?
Are you guys all on cocaine during the day and drunk at night?

>money
>money
>money

>jews
>jews
>jews

>>11502527
The money has to go somewhere.

>>11498539
Hello.
I just really got my first real job after I graduating college so I finally have a decent amount of money to invest. I am looking very very long term so I don't mind buying now even though it may seem like we're on the brink of a market crash and dollar cost averaging each month as I make more money at work.
I'm mainly interested in buying total fund ETFs, maybe like a 40 40 10 10 split between VTI, VXUS, BND, VGIT respectively. I will also be buying smaller amount of individual stocks on the side. My main question was in which accounts do I allocate what? I have both a regular margin/brokerage account, as well as a Roth IRA.
On the one hand it makes more sense to me that for the tax savings, these funds have such low fees I should keep them in my brokerage account and keep stocks in the IRA. On the other hand, everyone calls IRA a retirement account, and since I'm thinking long term with these funds should I just stick them there and forget?
Thank you.

baking a new one

>>11500171
I do believe ZNGA has a pedo for a CEO.

>>11501489
Yup

>>11502618
just

>>11498860
There is nothing confusing about what happened. Longs got trapped. All the buying was splurged before the ER where the show was supposed to convince investors for another round of financing to stave off the inevitable. Stupid shorts covered, and will not chase it post ER. Stupid longs FOMO bought ahead. People who are under water are waiting for ER to sell into a spike to prop up other stupid shit they have that imploded. You are guaranteed a sellathon on ER instead of a rocket. Andy did it to VRX too. And some other stock. Musk is an OTC pumper tier, Left is a smart trader. If Musk doesn't abide by the rules, he will be taken to the cleaners when on the ropes, and Musk is on the ropes.

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>>11502556
roth IRAs get your least tax-efficient investments. you don't pay taxes on dividends or capital gains in the roth IRA, so profit is profit, taxed at 0%. for retirement accounts i would put stuff like REITs, junk bonds, other high-yield investments.

traditional accounts get everything else.

i wouldn't overthink it. i'd put stocks and bonds with high dividend yields in the roth IRA, and any tax-advantaged funds (like my municipal bonds) in the regular account. but more importantly i would pursue an investing approach that emphasizes simplicity. like why bother with VTI, VXUS, BND when you could do a target-date fund, most of which attempt the same logic at the same ratios, in one fund. putting VTSAX in both accounts is probably just fine unless that bores you. and that's a minimal cost approach, too.

>>11502556
boggleheads wiki
put tax generating stuff in your Roth because it grows tax free

>>11502293
Thats one hell of a Cup, lets wait for the handle to form.

>>11502705
>two decade technical analysis
kek

>>11502741
isn't that what the parent post is doing?

>>11502680
I want to have a bit more control than the target date fund provides. Also they have higher fees which will add up over the next 40 years. I want more treasury bonds than they provide. I really thought 4 funds is simple enough