/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11451818
Dumped everything I had into BAT back when it was #65, now it's #39, comfiest fucking hold and it just keeps going up. Going to be in the top 20 by end of month.

>>11451835
Anon BAT is the golden ticket

This pump is amazing in a sea of red

>>11451934
Someone knows something ;) were gonna make it fren

>>11451818
>BAT is trumps new weapon against Google
What in the fuck is wrong with you Trump worshiping retards? This is peak delusion.

>>11451947


Nothing wrong Fren just stating facts.. Peter thiel, President Trump, Daddy Eich Trio is bringing Brave to the frontlines of the war against Google.

>>11451818
as someone who's been a media buyer for companies since 2008, mostly google and facebook, I can confirm that companies will never switch to BAT/brave

>>11452055
As someone who’s used aol since 1997, I can confirm I’ll never switch to internet explorer

>>11452055
Facebook lied to advertisers for a year, inflating the number of users by 900%.. Do you really think they will stick around just because they've been working together for a while. Companies always looking for the next best thing that will make them money. You're delusional old fag, the future is now boomer

>>11452153
based and redpilled

>>11452055
https://nypost.com/2018/10/17/facebook-sued-for-inflating-video-stats-for-advertisers/?utm_source=reddit.com
Maybe the companies affected by this would be up for trying something else.

>>11451818
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME

>>11452192
Any buy under 4500 sats is good rn fren!

>>11452163
Red pilled and based

>>11451835
50k BAT enough to make it?

>>11452555
Yes anon. We're going to make it. With just a very small fraction of only Googles ad share we will pump well past a few dollars.

>>11452591
You think BAT could hit $1.50 sometime next year?

>>11452665
Well before this year is over I believe.

>>11452907
What about Brendan specifically stating "publishers and advertisers don't want to buy, sell, or hold crypto"?
Also what about Coinbase shutting down institutional services?
Where are these ad buyers going to park their billions of dollars?
Not in BAT. They literally can't (no custodian services) and they don't want to (according to the CEO Eich).

BAT just feels like a gold hold. I go on the BAT Project Reddit often, it's always active with Brave community admins and the team is very open about their progress.

I feel like things haven't gone as fast as they originally thought but I'm not worried at all. They're clearly thinking long-term and Brendan is clearly a genius so it's comfy having him at the helm.

The ONLY issue I have with BAT is that I don't have enough of it, but luckily I feel safe buying it up to $.50. Hopefully I can acquire more BAT before the real pump begins.

>>11453008
BAT:
>is not used on Ethereum blockchain
>is centralized with over 88% of tokens being held by less than 100 people (not even counting UGP!)
>confers no rights of ownership or stake in anything
>has no viable use case (ethereum doesn't work, remember?)
>will not be bought by advertisers and publishers (per CEO's own words)

You are bullish on the Brave browser. All of the "progress" and "updates" you've been getting (lol roadmap where?) are about the browser and have nothing to do with the BAT.

The BAT will be jettisoned and abandoned but the browser itself has use. They will just go with the USD I shit you not.

>>11452055
>companies will never switch to BAT/brave

What do you mean? For advertising? If you've worked in the online advertising sector you already know it's rife with fraud. That's straight up undeniable. Google and Facebook are at the heart of the online advertising industry, and while they have the biggest outreach, they also induce the most fraud.

Companies are going to switch to advertising where:
1. It's cheapest
2. It reaches the most amount of people
3. The data proving it reaches people can be held accountable (Google and Facebook fail massively at this due to fraud)

Brave Ads have such an insanely good idea behind them (i.e. incentivizing the user to watch the ad) that companies are naturally attracted to the project, if anything just to see if it works. Brave already has major advertisers on board. I've been using Brave BETA and you get some ads from Amazon specific searches, meaning Amazon is all but ready to purchase a round of advertising using BAT. Brave just needs to continue racking up the user numbers and they'll get more and more interest from companies.

>>11453082
I remember you from another thread. I dispelled your garbage "BAT isn't Brave" theory then and I'm not going to do it again here. BAT and Brave go hand in hand and if you can't realize why the one is necessary for the other, I welcome you to Google it. Brendan has spoken about it 100x before. You're a lost cause though but it's nice to have dissenting opinion in a hugbox BAT thread

should I fomo in or wait?

>>11453094
>https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1036736760712028160
Think about it. The BAT offers ALL of the drawbacks of being a cryptoasset but NONE of the advantages.

BAT DOES NOT USE THE BLOCKCHAIN. People need to do a deep dive on this shitcoin.

>>11453117
>Almost all businesses, esp. advertisers and publishers, do not want to buy, hold, or sell crypto.
>esp. advertisers and publishers

>>11453132
Im scared too

>>11453082
t.mudbrain

>>11453082
BAKA lmaooo nice try. Bat will be used bro

>>11453181
by who? the whole idea was that Coinbase would list BAT thereby allowing advertisers to use Coinbase custodial services.
That got canceled. Coinbase no longer offering institutional services.
Where are ad firms going to buy $1MM+ worth of tokens for their ad campaigns?
Also, BAT is not using the blockchain. Payments are settled over Brave's internal servers. That means no instant tips or settlements. Everything is going to be laggy and buggy. Once a month payouts and those have been buggy for literally over 15 months. Look at the github or try it yourself. I'll still be in here in a month if you want to make the thread saying I was right.

>>11453233
gay virgin with too many posts and none are from the brave browser. what a tiny dicked fag JEJ

>>11453233
Lolz just you wait anon. I make BAT threads every day. Ill help tie your knot when your done with it all. Just don't forget to live Stream it.. Ill tip you in bat but i guess you won't see it cause the servers are laggy huh? To bad

>>11453292
>>11453380
I have more tokens than the both of you combined. How come you're unable to hold a contradictory viewpoint?
These are true facts:
>BAT does not use the ETH blockchain
>BAT could not use the ETH blockchain if it wanted
>publishers and advertisers don't want to own a legally murky token
>even if they wanted to own tokens there is not a single place they could go to buy them

How are ads going to be paid out if advertisers won't buy the token? Coinbase was supposed to solve that problem but they just canceled institutional services.

That's my question for you two absolute robots. How do we get paid from watching ads if advertisers won't buy the token?

>>11453456
Lol you're a supposedly "huge" bagholder and know nothing of who I actually am.. And don't know the answer to that question.

>>11453542
honestly I'm not even sure you pass the Turing test.

>>11453456
>How do we get paid from watching ads if advertisers won't buy the token?

They have to purchase advertising campaigns by buying the token. They pay for advertising using USD (I'm assuming Brave will set prices in USD) and that fiat is used to buy BAT which funds the campaign. That's how I understand it. A certain % of that BAT goes to Brave and a % goes to the users watching the ads, which is then in theory used to support content creators, etc.

That's my understanding. Advertisers don't directly buy the token but the fiat they use to pay for their ad campaign is used to buy BAT which is distributed in the BAT ecosystem. I can't speak to your other FUD but you can post on the BAT project subreddit and get it dispelled, if you really want to.

Delusional faggots. People don’t like to watch ads and your shitty coin that amounts to pennies a year isn’t going to change their minds.

>>11453801
Yeah here's the beauty of it, brainlet: You don't have to watch the ads. You can turn them off completely, just like you're probably doing right now.

If you want to earn BAT, you watch the ads. It's win/win.

>>11453801
i'm up over 25% this week on this "shitty coin" while you sit here and complain about how you are too braindead to buy the only legit project in crypto

>>11453577
No need to answer a question asking if the ceo states his coin is useless. If you have such big bags why ask such a retarded question lmao.

>>11453151
They dont have to buy crypto. They can buy a set $ amount of Brave ads that is converted to BAT when the ad is run and distributed to the publisher and user. This means companies wont have to worry about speculation and BAT itself will have fiat directly backing it.

>>11451818
BAT is a fag coin. A contrived fag concept and the best part is that the batqueers don't even know about the ad payment mechanics, only about the little faggy donations.

It's so funny

Anyone who is involved in ad tech knows that BAT has no shot of working

GOOGLE FACEBOOK AMAZON are too powerful

I don't give a fuck if you believe me but ad agencies still aren't used to Programmatic or Mobile after 10+ years let alone "Crypto" lol

>t. former youtube, adobe, and facebook employee who quit silicon valley who holds 100k BAT as suicide insurance

>>11454731
>Brendan Eich opposed California's anti-fag bill

>>11454771
*pro-fag

>>11454761
you hold 100k BAT because you don't even believe the bullshit you write. advertisers don't need to use crypto to use Brave Ads. they pay in fiat and the fiat is converted to BAT which is paid out to users.

>>11454761
Amazon is already interested in Brave and the proof is in this very thread. Congrats on your 100k BAT though

>>11452055
As someone who used xanga and myspace I can confirm no one will use facebook and instagram.

>>11452965
T. someone who doesn't understand how BAT/Brave are going to work once v1 rolls out.
I know its hard being a brainlet, so many faggots with low iq fudding BAT because its too hard to understand.

>>11453151
>>11453140
>>11453082

>>11453456
>BAT does not use the ETH blockchain
>BAT could not use the ETH blockchain if it wanted
it's literally an erc20 token

/biz/ unironically doesn't deserve BAT.

>>11454761
I love how fags like you are always so sure it'll never work.... but "i got my suicide insurance bag"

Fucking luke warm faggots like you deserve the rope.

>>11453140
>>11453456
please explain how BAT doesn't use the ethereum blockchain despite being an erc20? If I'm missing something I'd like to know but I think it's more likely you're confused anon.

I only have 6k, am I going to make it?

>>11454761
lol $20k worth of BAT. Probably worked at the call center

>>11456966
As per the whitepaper, you will have $6000 in tokens

>>11457020

>still using the $1 meme
>smoothbrain detected

>>11457071
The $1 meme was designed to get people to read the whitepaper. The upcoming $8 meme will be designed to get people to read the updated roadmap

>>11457131
We are gonna make it fren

why does BAT need limited tokens or require investment from neets
wouldn't this business model just require brave to deal with advertisers?

why does bat matter at all, does it actually do something that's unique, is it scarce, can it be copied and replaced?

I don't get it (although I haven't researched it much)

>>11457131
What's after $8?

>t.50k bagholder

>>11457355
Unironically poke around the subreddit. It will all make sense.

I do not hold BAT but I wish you anons all the best

BAT / FAT bros

>>11457355
You need to do your research anon.

The token has a limited supply, and its used as a unit of attention. Micro transactions and fees dont go well together. If you did a few days of research you wouldnt want to hold any other coins.

>>11457397
By that point everyone will be redpilled and memes will be lost in rational price discussion

>>11457439
Still time, any buy under 4500 sats rn is a good buy

>>11457444
>>11457397
the project actually looks cool but I'd never invest in their tokens
I will definitely test and use it on brave browser though
their company says no plans for additional token creation but it's not like they're unable to if they change their mind

I hope they do succeed and you anons make some money but I'll keep my bets on things kept in a distributed consensus
I'll use it and test it because their vision is good for the internet overall

>>11456966
If you have even moderate patience you will have $30,000.

In addition to the token launch, the project is funded by Founders Fund, Foundation Capital, Propel Venture Partners, Pantera Capital, DCG, Danhua Capital, and Huiyin Blockchain Venture among others.

those investors aren't buying tokens, they're getting legit stakes in the company and returns
these ICOs have no legally binding obligations to make their token investors money

>>11457611
They are given dividends from the 30% ad exchange fee that brave software collects. This doesnt mean the token is worthless though. It has a fixed supply, and the value can obviously increase tremendously from where it is now. I would personally rather have a stake in brave software, but this is the next best thing. A $5 token price is not crazy to imagine.

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>>11458099
There's no stopping if we hit 5$

>>11452064
Kek

BTC XMR ETH LINK BAT ZRX

>>11458705
Yes google is a kek

Bump

>>11458720
based retired by 2020 portfolio

>>11459951
Seriously just seeing it now. I fully agree

don't fomo in now, this could dump hard, at least wait for a retracement

>>11460247
Any buy under 4500 is a good buy right now. Thw future this coin has shows how undervalued this project is

>>11458720
You forgot XLM

>>11460276
And skycoin

sorry I didn't know tether was gonna collapse again, any buy is a good buy now

>>11460255
One of the best risk/reward ratios in crypto. Its never seen a hype cycle either. If people actually did their research, and became red pilled BAT will become a top 10 very quickly.

>>11458099
there's nothing stopping BAT from creating more tokens
there's really no reason to have a token at all

the way they worded it is at this moment there are no plans on additional sales or token creation
but there's literally nothing stopping them from creating more it's a weird crowd fund thing with no legitimate contract

why aren't token holders getting a dividend or what was it sia or something they had 2 different coins
one was a ownership token and one was a utility token

>>11461140
You're thinking of ICN and ICNX

>>11461732
thx wasn't sure
I think that's a better model if you want to be investing in a project

>>11461779
I was invested in both at one point, and trust me, BAT is the comfiest hold in all of crypto. That's coming from someone who bought ETH at $12.

>>11461792
I'm good, there's nothing stopping BAT devs from doing another sale, and you're not earning from the use and adoption of BAT
it's all based on an artificial scarcity and at the end of the day you're giving BAT free advertising because you're holding some bags while they collect 30% or whatever the take is for hosting the service

>>11461792

Is bat a good buy now? I mean it has pumped so much

>>11461819
normally FOMO is never a good idea but looking at the one month chart it looks like its a pretty steady and most importantly consistent rise. I got most of my stack at 10 cents, but recently grabbed some more even at 22 cents because I want to have as large a bag as possible.

Whatever you do DO NOT sell the coinbase pump(or at least don't sell your entire stack). Don't settle for 10-15%. This fucker is going to be so much bigger.

>>11462323
I second that! Coinbase pump is just the beginning

>>11462323
This. The era of the 'flavor of the week' pump and dump is coming to an end. All that will matter soon is actual adoption. Brave is going to be the flagship for crypto adoption with the upcoming Brave wallet with built in metamask bringing dapps to the fingertips of users.

>>11451818
Haven't followed bat that closely but I know it's probably a good one - any anons have proof of connections to Trump? Aside from the logo looking similar?

>>11463550
Peter Thiel is an angel investor for Brave, he's been in on the project since the begining. He is also closely connected with Trump as he was a donor and was a part of the transition team, beyond that I dont know what OP is getting at.

>>11463550
Look at the regulatory environment. Both in the US and abroad. The (((EU))) will ironically be our friend on this as it chips away at Google. Trump hates Silicon Valley and won't lose a single vote hurting it. Eich has an axe to grind against Silicon Valley too.>>11463591

>>11463550


>>11463591
Political advertising and strategy. Close ties

>>11451818
Hey I'm noob how do I buy this shit? Without using seven different fucking services? Seriously.

>>11464332
Coinbase addition is when it will be easy to buy. Easiest way I can think of for now is use Coinbase to buy Ethereum and download the Exodus Eden crypto wallet, send your Ethereum to that wallet and exchange it for BAT through the inbuilt shapeshift service.

>>11464359
I read that when it hits Coinbase it'll go up. I don't know shit about this. Why's it got to be so complicated? Can't I just use one app and buy the shit?

>>11464743
relatively new technology and emerging markets are usually complicated

>>11464743
I have it down to two apps for you. Coinbase and Exodus Eden, shapeshift is built into Eden.

>>11464332
this is why a coinbase addition will be game changing. At the moment i need to purchase bitcoin off coinbase, send it over to coinbase pro, send it over to binance, then purchase BAT. The whole process takes roughly 30 minutes. It's a fucking a mess.

>>11451818
FUCK YOU /BIZ/ YOU TOLD ME THIS COIN WAS A SCAM AND BRAVE BROWSER WAS A PAJEET TIER PROJECT

>>11465071
>not backing the man who was exiled from tech due to his political beliefs


Bro revenge and spite is the best motivation. Big dick B is never wrong.

>>11464967
That's simple enough. Appreciate it.

>>11465071
Brave has one of the most promising futures in the market. We are the the bare bones stage building up trust and users as the deals happen in the background. Biz is usually link tier but some anons share their secrets ;)

>>11465071
What you meant to say is "fuck you prl niggers"

prl niggers are legitimately the only people spreading FUD about this coin.