/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11427728

>>11427728
lmfao he literally ruined it forever

>>11427751
It isn't the same van.

>>11427786
I hope so

people are everywhere, labor is plentiful, wages will only get lower, and lower until certain jobs disappear completely.

if you still have to work for a living (even after the insane crypto run from 2015-2018) then you better hope youre doing something that <1M other humans in the world are capable of doing.

>>11427801
If you actually compare them the paint isn't even the same and neither are the sidings.

>>11427835
This.
The first van is blue/green/red, while the second is black.
Obviously not the same van.

>>11427740
Marx has been right about practically evrything

>>11427965
Marx is an idiot who poisoned the future of mankind with his oppressor vs oppressed worldview.

>>11427983
Lmao, upper class vs plebs happened since roman republic

>>11427835
>>11427786
>>11427878
This, one van has a license plate, the other doesn't. Different vans.

>>11428005
"Working class" is not a caste. Under the current system, anyone can make it.

>>11427983
Do you even into the history of mankind?
The only thing he was wrong about, by omission, was the presence of realpolitik and the information economy.

>>11428021
If anyone can make it, then why doesn't everyone?

>>11428024
He was an infantile, butthurt little faggot.
Granted, in his day things were a bit different since it was over 100 fucking years ago.
But still the kernel of his butthurt has been transposed to the modern age, where literally everything is now seen in terms of oppressor vs oppressed: men vs women, straight vs gay, gay vs trans, white vs black, etc.

>>11428030
Because not everyone is equally capable. Obviously.

>>11428021
>wealth inequality expanding
>household and student debt expanding
>wages stagnant
>cartels run all big business and finance
Yea, right

>>11428047
>>wealth inequality expanding
And yet the poor have never had it better. Don't forget that part.

>household and student debt expanding
Yes, fools and their money are easily parted.

>cartels run all big business and finance
That's because of central government regulations that allow shit like globalization, which favors rapid expansion of the few at the expense of the many.

>>11427965
fucking kill yourself
You neo-marxists are the literal scum of the earth. Can't think of anything more evil and disgusting than you cretins. My only joy is knowing that you will always be losers and live the next 50 years of your life just above the poverty line.

>>11428056
>anyone can make it!
>they just dont deserve it
No true scotsman

>>11428117
Of course not everyone deserves it.

>>11428117
Equality of opportunity is not equality of outcome. Everyone has the chance but not everyone is capable.

>>11428145
Thats the perfect no true scotsman response

>>11428167
It's absolutely not.
I said anyone CAN make it.
Trenchbrain.

>>11428176
Like anyone can win the lottery?
Or like "anyone" can be potus?
The first is true becuase its random. The second is true because anyone can run

>>11428187
Kind of like that, yes.
"Making it" would even include those options.

>>11428187
Quite frankly I'm not sure the point you are trying to make if any.

>>11428196
Then thats true of all history faget. Marx didnt do shit to influence the last 10000years

>>11427728
most australian thing i have ever seen

>>11428205
Absolutely, there were always ways to "make it" throughout history.
Now more than ever in Western society where everyone is equal under the law.

>>11428232
>now more than ever
If now was 1918

>>11428249
1) see my previous post: "there were always ways to "make it" throughout history
2) I granted that things were different 100 years ago
3) you seem to have completely abandoned the "no true Scotsman" retardation, good on you

>>11428258
We are arguing why its no true scotsman dumbfuck.
Looks like you cant even follow a thread without going full brainlet

>>11428270
>We are arguing why its no true scotsman dumbfuck.
We really aren't.

>>11428005
Wrong, the labels don't even matter. It's the "us" vs "them" propaganda that opportunistic power mongers have used since antiquity to manipulate and rule over people.

Guess what will always happen once all the "them" are killed off? They find enemies within "us" and repeat the same damn cycle of violence and persecution.

>>11428024
He was completely wrong about people. There's no fucking "class consciousness". He wasn't even able put his own damn theories into practice. It wasn't until some unscrupulous politicians came along who utilized his ideas.

Best thread of the year.

>>11427740
Those who would win memes are the most retarded npc thing ever

>>11428415
wow, really? thanks for letting me know. I will stop using them now to fit in with the december-2017 cool crowd.

>>11428145
>>11428030
>>11428117
Nobody deserves anything just by existing. I thought that most people on 4chan and especially here were already aware of this reality, since it's a fucking business and finance focused board.

>>11427965
Marx new all of this YEARS AGO!!!

Reminder that commies have less value than the lead and rope that they deserve

>>11427983
Tell that to the Rothschilds

Labor is worthless, the output is the only thing of value.
Potent value is surprising and creative, hard to predict, requires energy being spent across time to discover by chance; Proof of Work.
Information < Wisdom < Intuition

>>11427728
Kek, reminds me of this.

http://damntechnology.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-disassemble-and-clean-game-watch.html?m=1