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Nano Heading for Disaster – Dirty Deals with BitGrail Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:47:48 2018 No.11130430 [Reply] [Original]

Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.

BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH
>Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2]
>Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3]
>Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6].
>Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged ‘maintenance’.
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to ‘KYC’ excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged ‘pending withdrawals’, which were never processed [11].
>Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems.
>Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12]
>Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:48:42 2018 No.11130437

>>11130430

NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (1 of 2)

>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14].
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15].
>Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15].
>Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors.
>Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17].
>Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18].
>Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19]
>Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21]
>Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22]
>Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23]
>Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25]
>Mica Busch (Nano dev): ‘‘funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity’’ [26]
>Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:49:43 2018 No.11130446

>>11130437

NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (2 of 2)

>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13].
>Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; ‘10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail’ [2] and repost under different headline ‘I need some help with tracing funds’ [1].
>Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4].
>Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. ‘Developers are taking care of that’ [31].

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:49:50 2018 No.11130447 For any newb: OP is a schizo who doesn't know how to draw logical conclusions at all. It's basically his brain having short circuits.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:50:45 2018 No.11130456

>>11130446

NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITEIS POST-BIGRAIL CRASH

>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32]
>Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41].
>BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims.
>After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37].
>Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38].
>Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40].

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:51:46 2018 No.11130463

>>11130456

Footnotes to the above Nano -BitGrail Crash (and Nano dev team involvement) –1 of 2

[1] https://archive.is/8mMEU
[2] https://archive.is/LUN33
[3] https://archive.is/V30nG
[4] https://archive.is/pk03o
[5] https://prnt.sc/ilv1gl
[6] https://prnt.sc/ilv0p6
[7] https://archive.is/Wkgvn
[8] https://bitsonline.com/raiblocks-nano-bitgrail-epic-fail/
[9] https://archive.is/CKs1V
[10] https://imgur.com/a/rOn3Seb
[11] https://archive.is/RW944
[12] https://archive.is/DM6Nl
[13] https://archive.is/acLnr
[14] https://imgur.com/a/Owlui
[15] https://archive.is/pC3vC
[16] https://imgur.com/a/mJMhlx3
[17] http://archive.is/86eDr
[18] https://imgur.com/a/aFYpDyk
[19] https://imgur.com/a/KNg2src
[20] https://imgur.com/a/o8lIwDz

>>	Wojak Wed Sep 19 01:52:05 2018 No.11130468 >>11130430 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU ALL

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:52:09 2018 No.11130469 DIRTY DEALS DONE FOR CHEAP

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:52:48 2018 No.11130479

>>11130463

Footnotes – part 2 of 2

[21] https://imgur.com/a/urpgzwv
[22] https://imgur.com/a/G7fgqWV
[23] https://imgur.com/a/4YcVEji
[24] https://imgur.com/a/IWP2thd
[25] https://imgur.com/a/rFV6BJy
[26] https://archive.is/bfd0Y
[27] https://imgur.com/a/ql0cjLP
[28] https://archive.is/dykfh
[29] https://i.imgur.com/ddzQlVw.jpg
[30] https://i.imgur.com/7xwM1Lx.jpg
[31] https://i.imgur.com/e8n7fWo.jpg
[32] https://archive.is/lTCkP
[33] https://archive.is/o1BmU
[34] https://archive.is/8Md3N
[35] https://archive.is/f4Q8E
[36] https://youtu.be/40aufi9oJno?t=10m16s
[37] https://imgur.com/a/gQmoQv0
[38] https://imgur.com/a/d8xG4QL
[39] https://archive.is/MbWv1
[40] Google: silvermillerlaw com 2018/04/2018-4-6-DE-1-CLASS-ACTION-COMPLAINT-1
[41] https://archive.is/0R8Qe

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:53:00 2018 No.11130480 File: 337 KB, 680x568, 0D0C751A-5D35-4A2D-B69B-DC9BE915828A.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130447 If you attack your enemy with ad homemim and not their ideas you already lost.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:53:51 2018 No.11130490 File: 24 KB, 300x289, Zack Shapiro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130437 Zack Shapiro

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:54:56 2018 No.11130494 File: 241 KB, 700x700, Josh Kleiman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130456 Josh Kleiman

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:55:01 2018 No.11130496 >>11130490 Keep fighting the good fight op, I posted your research on my blog becuase I hate each and every faggot on r/crypto https://crypstrology.com/nano-cryptocurrency-heading-for-disaster-dirty-deals-with-bitgrail/

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:55:05 2018 No.11130497

>>11130456
Let's just go through one of your idiotic postings.
>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32]
It's known what happened to the Nano. It was sent to Mercatox last october and sold off.
>Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41].
Good job Nano community!
>BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims.
OP makes up that there was a "deal". Schizo.
>After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37].
Made up lie. Schizo. After several months of OP spamming the chat with schizo shit, it was finally closed.
>Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38].
After several months, everyone got tired of telling people that there won't be a fork. It's not hostile, it's "moving on", something OP doesn't understand. Schizo.
>Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team.
OP makes this up. Schizo.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40].
That's their right. Anyone can sue whoever they want.

OP is a complete moron.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:56:01 2018 No.11130506 File: 109 KB, 854x470, Espen Enger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130456 Espen Enger

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:58:52 2018 No.11130536 OP you should stick to making death threats on Discord with your frog avatar and tell everyone about the millions you still have.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 01:59:14 2018 No.11130539
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>>11130506
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>>11130469
>>11130468
>>11130463
>>11130456
>>11130447
>>11130446
>>11130437
>>11130430

No one cares faggot LINK is pumping, go back to your basement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:02:07 2018 No.11130554 >>11130447 >>11130468 >>11130497 >>11130536 >>11130539 Nano is Bitconnect 2.0 Thank you for proving my point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:04:00 2018 No.11130569 >>11130554 >Thank you for proving my point. Translation: The voices in his head tell OP that his point was proven.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:05:41 2018 No.11130582 Op kept his nano on an exchange and thinks crypto devs are some sort of corporation. Yikes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:06:15 2018 No.11130586 >>11130430 You again. How many Nano did you lose on BItgrail?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:08:01 2018 No.11130600 >>11130586 On Discord he would claim that he lost millions but has millions more. Because, you know, it's totally sane to send millions to an italian garage exchange, that's what millionaires do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:08:57 2018 No.11130607 >>11130497 Strawman fallacies, ad hominem, and rejecting of documented facts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:09:53 2018 No.11130614 >>11130607 Schizo blurting. I bet you slur your speech irl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:12:34 2018 No.11130629 >>11130430 I am masturbating to all this anti-nano FUCKING FUD!! This is BETTER THAN PORN, while I look at ALL MY NANNIES!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:12:42 2018 No.11130631 >>11130607 So how much did you really lose? Is mommy angry with you? Why didn't you use a wallet?

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:20:11 2018 No.11130691

>>11130631
Like do you see a single strawman in the post where OP claims I put a strawman? He just blurts out words whose meaning he doesn't know. He used to spam discord like this 12 hours a day (like a true millionaire) and threatened to kill people. At that time the Lawsuit Discord had been in existence for months, so that's why they finally closed that chat.
Now the Lawsuit Discord didn't need OP either, since he is a minor and can't engage in a lawsuit, so instead he spams shit here every day now.
Protip OP: If you want to be taken more serious, don't post about genociding jews on Discord.

And maybe get out of your basement some time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:21:47 2018 No.11130710 >>11130600 More lies; I am not on discord I never trusted Bomber or Zack Shapiro I didn't loose anything on BitGrail It is the principle, I saw the way the devs behaved and how the Nano community attacked the victims and I was/am disgusted by it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:22:58 2018 No.11130722 >>11130710 >I am not on discord How do you know about the discord channel then? :)))))))))))))) You little shit :)))))) I know who you are :))))))))

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:24:58 2018 No.11130736 >>11130710 Hahaha, yeah, you sure sound like someone who doesn't think of himself as a victim at all. It's your own fault for not using a wallet you dumb fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:28:51 2018 No.11130763 File: 19 KB, 231x244, foilpepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130722 Dox his ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:31:00 2018 No.11130784 >>11130763 Nah not going to but he should really eat his pills before becoming the next school shooter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:34:41 2018 No.11130810 File: 121 KB, 1404x790, 1536796262635.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130763 Let's FIND the fucking asshole and MAKE HIM PAY! I am so tired of looking at his shit EVERY FUCKING DAY!!!!! NANO DEVS ARE MAGNIFICENT AND DID NOTHING WRONG!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:39:21 2018 No.11130844 File: 64 KB, 851x614, pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130810 We know it is you replying to your own thread.... this is so cringe. You need to seek help.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:40:05 2018 No.11130848
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>>11130430
(((Zack Shapiro)))
(((Josh Kleiman)))
holders can only blame themselves. Unless you're a Jew, never trust a Jew, how hard it is to understand?
Sure, there are non-Jewish scammers too - but they are an exception, not the rule. Average Italian is honest. Average Jew is going to scam a goy if given the chance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:40:56 2018 No.11130855 >>11130430 thank you for your help calling out the Nano SCAM, op Dont worry about the scamfags ITT, hopefully they'll still be holding the bag when Nano collapses

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 02:42:04 2018 No.11130864 >>11130844 Are you FUCKING INSANE?? YOU sound like fucking OP!! SPREADING CONFUSION!!!

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 03:00:53 2018 No.11131012 [DELETED]

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>>11130554
I was in bitconnect and lost a ton of money, BUT NANO IS NOT BITCONNECT! After that I learned technical analysis and the how technical nano is and much more than rest of cryptos and how magnificent the community is! YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING OF THAT AND YOUR FUD IS JUST A FUCKING BIG BUY SIGNAL!!!

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 03:21:38 2018 No.11131168
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>>11130554
I was in bitconnect and lost a ton of money, BUT NANO IS NOT BITCONNECT! After that I learned technical analysis and the how technical nano is and much more than rest of cryptos and how magnificent the community is! YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING OF THAT AND YOUR FUD IS JUST A FUCKING BIG BUY SIGNAL!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 03:43:18 2018 No.11131354 File: 50 KB, 447x456, 1536438183667.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130430 ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION FAGGOT. HOW MUCH DID YOU LOSE?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 04:39:27 2018 No.11131675 File: 310 KB, 654x639, 1535612402628.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130430 I could answer ALL UR FUD if I wanted to, but I DONT have any time to FUCKING WASTE ON U FUDDERS!!! I HAVE BETTER THINGS 2 DO!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 05:50:06 2018 No.11132005 posting the same thread everyday kek let me guess you bought at 25+ and lost it all on spaghettigrail

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 05:53:47 2018 No.11132031 >>11132005 All his 50 Nanos probably, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 06:01:50 2018 No.11132078 I'm 100% all in Nano since im not a pajeet/chink and have an IQ over 100 but gotta say OP when you posted pics of jews involved in the project i lmao'd

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 06:03:19 2018 No.11132094
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>>11132005
i really don't care about this bad history.

look at BTC and how many hacks and shit happened in the past. Mtgoxing, discusing shit, blockstream jewening. the tech was good and people kept buying and now we are here.

the same will happen to nano.

it had some bad actors but that does'nt mean it is bad tech. I've used over 15 cryptocurrencies and nano was by far the easiest and fastest.

I even send my most retarded friends a nano and manage to introduce them to crypto with it.

even my super most retarded tech illeterate friend has one nano now, and I didnt' even send him that nano, it was my other slightly less stupid friend who managed to get him to download a wallet and he sent him a nano.

that's all proof I need ( together with my own exp ) that nano will be huge.

we use it on festivals too now.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 06:21:43 2018 No.11132238
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>>11130430
FAGGOT thats what u get for leaving money in shady exchanges tf wrong with u!! I really hope that some of you bitgrail FUDDERS really DID commit suicide to weed out all you weak stupid people!! NANO DOESNT NEED U!! all u do is harming the price of nano and attacking the MAGNIFICENT NANO DEV TEAM!! FUCK U BITGRAIL BITCHES!!! STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM NANO!!

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 06:52:47 2018 No.11132457
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>>11130430
Please keep crying this pasta fud is getting funnier every day as nano leaves you and your shit coins in the dust. Actually being too retarded to spot a 95% dip , not buy it and then get autistically mad to the point of writing my angry projections onto the internet. LMFAO KEEP MISSING OUT BIZ LOL

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 07:34:41 2018 No.11132728 >>11130430 FUCKING BULLSHIT, ITS ALL FUCKING BULLSHIT!! Reason why we dont refute you is that we dont care! THATS THE ONLY REASON!!!

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 07:46:30 2018 No.11132844
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>>11130722
Do you have a name, city, street or something? Post everything you have, so we know who is behind all this fucking FUD against nano!! FUCK THIS MOTHER FUCKER!!

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 08:10:12 2018 No.11133048

>>11130722
Is this the frog guy, claiming to be whale from Venezuela? Are you sure it is him? Many other supported the idea to sue devs, before we intervened and got the control over the situation. Are you sure he is a minor, he sounded very mature, - language etc, the rest he was a whiny bitch and wanted to attack our magnificent devs and didnt fucking understand that they are on our side against bomber. He should be fucking careful.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 08:54:04 2018 No.11133344
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>>11130586
I believe he is one of those losers from bitgrail that now suddenly hate nano and are super jealous of our new magnificent community without the bitter losers and they missed out on all our gains. sucks to be them. glad we kicked them out, they just dragged nano down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 08:57:53 2018 No.11133364 >>11130430 Pls sell. I bought Rai initially at $.60 and I’m still kicking myself that I missed the boat on sub $1 NANO.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 09:28:55 2018 No.11133597
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>>11130430
Why would anyone listen to a brainlet who pretends to be an authority on things he's completely ignorant about in order to push an agenda? Go back to your hole fucking bitgrail bitches. Nano doesn't need u.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 10:05:39 2018 No.11133963
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>>11130430
Thanks OP, strong buy signal. Just bought another 100K. Sucks to be a bitgrail loser as yoiu, while I am stacking up my heavy bags ready for the gains and I am comfy af!! The rest of the community can't fucking stand you bitgrail whiners. Hope all of you commit suicide so we can finally have some peace in the community and focus on our future massive gains.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 10:58:24 2018 No.11134542 >>11130430 imagine being this autisticly butt flustered about an imaginary internet coin.

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 11:43:59 2018 No.11135001
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>>11130430
I kind of understand all your FUD against Nano... you still missing out on gains huh?
It's too bad keep buying your eth and xmr, you will surely make it someday. If you lost money on bitgrail your a loser having crypto on exchange and should kill yourself like the rest so we can have an upbeat and positive community. do us all a favour FUCKING FUDDERS!!

Anonymous Wed Sep 19 12:32:30 2018 No.11135548
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>>11130430
Sooooon, we know who you are.......enjoy looking over the shoulder the rest of your life......Okay, mods, JUST KIDDING!! Have a beer and a laugh, okay, we in the Nano community love to have this kind of banter, especially with the bitgrail people :)))))))))

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 13:39:42 2018 No.11136310 File: 164 KB, 1136x591, Nano Pepe for biz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11130430 Are you the CUNT behind this?? >>11132401

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 19 14:10:40 2018 No.11136684 >>11133963 >>11134542 >>11135001 >>11135548 >>11136310 Wow. I've never seen anyone so glaringly fresh off the boat from reddit. We have a thing called IDs here m8.

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