/biz/ - Business & Finance

This is where you shill your half baked scaling blockchain like EOS or vechain or neo.

Waiting for double digits eth
>Teh bloodbath hasnt even started yet.

>>10985187
Vitalik hates his investors. He told the public his product is worthless.

>>10985187
I think its caused by a combination of a few factors. Some of these or all.

>ICOs dumping
>Fear due to sharding delay
>Ethereum futures launch in a couple months

I still dont believe this is permanent. ETH is a good project with a promising future. The only reason Im not buying is because Im not sure weve hit bottom yet.

>>10985195
neo or vechain arent even in the same league as EOS... all are still shit though. We just have to hope that eth team somehow solves sharding otherwise we are going to be stuck with offchain solutions.

>>10985187
because it can't do the things it promised to do.
look at crypto kitties.
+ ico fund holders are cashing out

>>10985245
correct. only EOS can steal from investors by freezing accounts and siezing funds.
>hey dan, FBI here.
>'hey guys'
>yeah... we've got another dozen or so addresses that we need to sieze funds from. we appreciate your full cooperation on this... you understand
>'sure thing guys, consider it done'
>good goy

>>10985195
>>10985245


No


EOS is a scam and controlled and a few people.

Neo has flaws and doesn't work in terms of economics

It's not Cardona with the psycho Charles

Vechain is basically sticking lipstick on Ethereum.


THINK - There is a REAL proper platform being developed and news is starting to come out. Go back to the history of ETH

>>10985224
>with a promising future. The only reason Im not buying is because Im not sure weve hit bottom yet.

Kek enjoy your bags. How does sharding IMPROVE the security of the network?
How does Plasma IMPROVE the economics of Ethereum?

Don't be a plebbit sheep and think for yourself. Have you bothers to learn about the bus of ETH? What do you know about the history of ETH?

>>10985279
Correct

Now tell the sheep what the answer to my q is

>>10985279
thats not in the governance model anymore. they can only freeze accounts if a smart contract did not work as specified. what i meant when i said "its not in the same league" is that EOS has developed an entirely new deterministic VM based on wasm, a completely new consensus protocol and has 1000's of independent devs working on it. while vechain is literally just a fork of ETH with PoA and despite this, still has little technical advantages apart from 50 tps as opposed to eth's 15 tps. which is fucking abysmal considering all 101 nodes are pre selected. similar story with neo except neo has at least developed a custom VM.
again, all are still shitcoins though since they have centralised consensus.

>>10985334
see my reply above^ for the first part of your post.
> There is a REAL proper platform being developed and news is starting to come out.
Radix?

>>10985365
Holo jesus.

>>10985377
>Radix

No, look into the history of ETH.

>>10985224
I think it's the futures, it's better to go up then down, drop the price, long futures and pump ETH, I know for a fact a few billionaires who are in on ETH, can't say who, but we did accounts for these people.

>>10985187
its a HOLO fanboy who wants to tell us that ETH is dropping because of HOLO

>>10985404
ethereum classic?

>>10985224

You forgot to add:

>increased competition in the space that works better
>Solidity programming language has few devs.
>sharding has already been delayed multiple times by ETH as well as ZIL and others who promised it. Can’t get it to work.

>>10985365
>cult of personality coin
>Vitalik
>lost as to how to implement POS
>lashes out at Cardano on twitter and reddit because they are ahead in the POS game
>common knowledge that POS for ETH is 2020 or later
>investors losing confidence
>see the fundamental error in holding a cult coin like Vitalik's ETH
>sharding also a distant fantasy
>all public knowledge
>becoming more commonly known
>"ETH can't scale" they say

Hundreds of ICO's raised millions in ETH and the hype is over for now.
Is this really that hard to figure out?
Also, all shitcoins are hugely influenced by the BTC price whether you want to ignore that fact or not.

>>10985404
probably talking about skycoin or some shit.

>>10985402
>>10985411
No not holo

>>10985417

No understand the actual history and origin of ETH

>>10985424
No ETH as a PLATFORM and it's vision is NEEDED and smart contacts are real.

ETH itself won't be THAT platform.

That's what smart money now understands and why they are slowly selling.

Smart contracts and Eths vision is 100% going to happen. It just won't be on ETH

Be back in a half/hour

>>10985440
Like FUCKING skycoin or some shit could do what Eth can right now. Kek

>>10985334
R L C
You'll thank me in 2 years

>>10985453
The SKY devs don't want smart contracts on their network anyway.

Is it counterparty?

>>10985187
There is an exploit that lets you send transactions using 0 gas (free) which makes ETH worthless.

>>10985187
Honestly ETH has many faults.
Why does it have to be a single one when the "downfall" (strong word maybe decline) is brought by multiple problems. Many of which were mentioned here:


But lets recap:

>Vitalik is a BAD spoke person and PR for his project. It fine to be critical and want to improve it. It terrible when you don't believe in your own project and other peoples project. At this point I don't know how much programing he does, but he is bad for ETH.


>ETH FAILED to do what it promised it will do.


ETH is not scalable. A single project in the name of crypto kitties showed it. ETH can not sustain massive amount of transactions that are cheap for the average user. 8$ in sending fee or days of waiting is not okay.


> The language... its obsucure few people know it. This means that a lot of people need to learn it and invest time and money to use eth. Its not C++ or anything else that is widly popular.


>People made millions in the ICO golden age. The insane amount of profit brough insane amount of scams with it or risky projects.


>Your starting to need a very own HDD to store the block chain... witch will get worse with time.


>At the same time its stale technology. No new programing languages, no POS, no sharding, no fixes of the bloat of the chain since the project launch really.


I am sure there more problems that i forgot to mention, however are the few I mentioned not enough to make you want to not buy ETH?

Outline a scenario in which ETC flips ETH.

>>10985448
Dfinity?

>>10985448
Been up all nite with insomnia watchin this thread, I hope you drop me some knowledge soon so I ca do some research and get some sleep

>>10985514
To summarize...

ETH is not the the child of the prophecy. It won't be the one coin that will start MASS adoption and make crypto useful in day to day life.

What ETH started as dream is awesome! It won't be the coin that accomplishes the dream though.


That coin most likely does not exist currently, or no team has shown that its capable to do it.

>>10985453
Alright it's ZIL then

>>10985199
Why does he do this? Does he hate speculators who don't give a shit about the tech?

Biz is full of so many fucking neckbeard retards.
Ethereum has more competent devs than anyone in the entire crypto scene.

https://prysmaticlabs.com

And staking and sharding will blow everyone else the fuck out. Go ahead, sell now.

I know multi-billion dollar funds accumulating ETH right in this moment.

Only the filthy rich will be able to afford 32 ETH for staking with.

>>10985514
> The language... its obsucure few people know it. This means that a lot of people need to learn it and invest time and money to use eth. Its not C++ or anything else that is widly popular.
It has to be a new language. No other popular language is deterministic. You can get different results running the same code on different hardware, it's the reason they created solidity. They didn't want to create a new language, they had to.

>>10985557
>Ethereum has more competent devs than anyone in the entire crypto scene.

>>10985568
I hope you short ETH right now as hard as you can. Can't wait to see you get fucked if thats your logic.

The problem with ETH is also that it increased like hundredfold within not even 2 years. So there is much more room for justing. Also Vitalik is a retard and fuels the downtrend. Also bear market. Nobody is buying.

But ETH is ETH and one of the best buys you can buy and WILL increase for sure again. However nobody knows where the bottom is and nobody is daring to risk buying too much when it can also drop another 50% to 100ish. It is hard to estimate where it finally stops dropping.

>>10985568
Straw man argument comparing their political views to their ability to code.

>>10985581
eth is trash
god tier devs like greg maxwell pointed this out years ago

>muh history
spill the beans already
what are you shilling you pathetic pajeet

>>10985586
go sync a validating node and get back to me
kek

>>10985557
>And staking and sharding will blow everyone else the fuck out
in 2020, 2021 or 2022? will ETH btfo everyone in 4 years? jesus christ, i knew redditors were stupid but you have just demonstrated a new level of dumbfuckery. congrats faggot.

>>10985598
I've synced plenty, don't try and use hardware from 2000 and you won't have an issue.

>>10985598
This. based and redpilled
/thread

>>10985557
Anon I don't know if i missed something but there is like 6 people.

I know a lo of projects having more than 30 developers working full time, won't mention them as dont want to get branded a shill.
Pick you ETH poison from here for example: https://cointopper.com/guides/8-best-alternative-smart-contract-platforms-to-ethereum

>>10985564

That does not change the facts though... few people know solidity and that crates a gate that needs to be passed for people to use it.

>>10985598
KEK

>>10985187
Because all Bitcoin is a scam and blockchain is useless tech that has no practical applications

>>10985448
BTC or BCH?

>90% of /biz/ in agreement that ETH is a shitcoin and is going to 0

Looks like it's almost time to go all in against you tards

bog incoming.

PRIOR TO SECOND BTC ALL TIME HIGH PRICE
THERE WILL BE A MINUSCULE AMOUNT OF TIME (FIVE MINUTES TOPS) IN WHICH THERE WILL BE A ETHEREUM RUN UPTO $1082
THIS IS THE FINAL OPPORTUNITY FOR CRYPTO TRADERS
TO SELL THEIR ETHEREUM TO LOCK IN GAINS
LOOK AT THE DUMP ORDERS - IF THERE ARE INSUFFICIENT ORDERS PRESENT, THERE WILL BE A PUMP!
LAST CHANCE TO SELL ETH WITH PROFFIT !!!;javascript

>>10985481
>>10985526
>>10985549
>>10985557
>>10985653

No
Are there any proper oldfags here?

Since all the dumb replies and 2 hours which people can't even THINK and no one has yet go it. Most of you seen to be Redditors. Biz was never this stupid.

I've literally dropped hints along the way. If the true oldfags find it. Don't post here and enjoy your riches.

For those dumb brainlets. ETH Origin

For those Redditors - Believe in God Vitalik buy ETH because PoS, sharding and VB said so......

>>10985685
You are a retard

>>10985187
is this a tezos shill?

>>10985672
That's gonna be a big green line

4 U

>>10985685
Okay anon if you are trying to say that a old coin from the beginning of ETH is starting to make a move I can think of only 3 coins:

LISK, STRATIS and ARK which is 2016.

My other train of though is to look if some of the other founding members are not creating a coin of their own.

>>10985676
BUMP!! BUMP!!

>>10985187
Ethereum is dropping cause its a huge bubble, it was worth 1/10th of Apple's marketcap without having provided any fucking value whatsoever.
>sold at $1200,-

>>10985745
ETH is going to be bigger than you can even fucking imagine pleb.

https://entethalliance.org/members-2/

>>10985755
It could, definitely. I'm not denying that Ethereum could be great, amazing and provide value. All I'm saying is that it was in a huge fucking bubble and anyone who didn't sell just passed the retard test.

>>10985564
thats not true. you can have a standardised VM for a popular language. Like webassembly and then use a normal language. This is how eos can use c++. Honestly, it still confuses me to this day why gavin chose to create solidity instead of just creating a deterministic VM for something like python and just stripping out all of the non deterministic features like dynamic types.

>>10985745
>without having provided any fucking value whatsoever
it allowed a few hundred ICOs to scam thousands of retail investors and the SEC still hasn't arrested anyone.

>>10985685
"muh eth history" is not enough. it could literally be anything

>>10985685
oh wait. is it polkadot?

>>10985781
And that was valued at 130Billion dollars

>>10985685
eth origin is mastercoin, but that's a zombie protocol used only by tether now and can't do smart contracts.
Rootstock would fit 'origins' but it's a federated chain making it equivalent to eos.
I'm 90% sure your 'origin' hint means switzerland and it's an autistic tezos shill thread

Why do you guys even reply to this kind of hand-waving?

It boggles my mind that people think smart contracts are something new. It's quite simply business logic which has existed since businesses used computers. Masses of people taken for a ride by a hype word.
What is new about blockchain is being able to create a value exchange network without the problem of double spending. This is the problem solved by bitcoin. "Smart contracts" are just business logic that makes use of blockchain. Most business logic doesn't need a blockchain, as it is slow, expensive, public, and not under the control of the party owning the business logic. In other words, it's niche. Private blockchains are just a lol concept. Bitcoin has the value network use case covered with the network effect. It's the de facto base currency of the crypto world.
Doing all business logic at all nodes (ethereum's basic design) is just... so bad that one crypto kitties app is enough to crash your network.
The fact is that multi million dollar disputes will still be settled in the real world through real world law and no corporation is ever going to accept "code is law".
ICO's are a cute use case but since projects need to cash out, well, you see what is happening right now.
That being said, since bitcoin fees will get higher over time there will always be room for altcoins for poorfags.
So "smart money", maybe in the sense that they can scam retards for billions worth.

>>10985187
ETH is shit, thats why its dropping

Kek

#Vlippening

vitalik is a literal scammer trying to sell quantum computers before he sold his blickchain 3.0 internet of things pipe dream
I was naive and bought into it and the DAO and thought the future was here but it's all a bag of lies
I can't believe they pulled the scam into stage 2 but they're admittedly not going to be able to go to stage 3 scam until 2020?

It's VeChain having real world adoption. Smart money knows this.

>>10985891
You are an absolute dumbfuck

>>10985685
Namecoin is respected for some reason by many oldfag devs. Also skeleton shilled it and it had some unexplained bumps in the price.

>>10985734
He is clearly referring to Ark.

>>10985984
Last year there we're so many Ether fanboys here. Now everyone is screaming that it's a scam and a ponzi. You do realize Vitalik said he thought Ether was worth like 5$, and that crypto could go to $0 at any point?

Not sure if you're trolling or not but if you aren't. Then absolutely check your head.

>>10985999
name one usecase for smart contracts that isnt just complex multisig

>>10985915

Good
>>10985773

Better you are thinking about business and language


Why would a company pay MORE expensive developers or train staff to learn another language.

The origin of ETH was created because Bitcoin functions WERE disabled.

Why is there a obsession over increasing blocksize?

Because side chains will now be inside.
It creates value and makes sure value stays inside the network


https://bitcoindb.github.io/bitcoin-token-website/

Who is developing that? Look into his background.

Understand from a business view and economics and security view

>>10985685
>>10986013
Does this mean the ICO I got into will moon?

>>10985334
>a real proper platform
EC2?

>>10985847
Wrong

>ctrl+f
>stellar
>0 results
God damn you retards are slow.

>>10985334
okay Ripple, Holo or an unreleased coin, I'm not sure if the specific category has to be financial products or decentralized applications or if it can be more niche.

To be true, I'm a brainlet when it comes to these things. I have no fucking idea how to research crypto or how to analyze a github page.

Maybe Universa, but I feel like I'm looking in the wrong direction.

It's dropping because it's a two digit shitcoin
Based Arthur crashed it 50% already and is ready for round 2

>>10986152
>it will crash forever

>>10986038
lmao, are you a bitcoin cash shill?
You realize these 'smart contracts' can do nothing else but simple tokens?

This bear market is as retarded as the dec/jan bull.

>>10986203
Yes must be Go back to

Or why don't you take your time, think for yourself, watch the video in that link and understand what's going on

>>10985334
It’s tezos...fuck man I knew it.

>>10986203
FUD Bitcoin (BCH) is Turing complete

>>10985709
Yes.

Macro/micro economics professional here and token economics model behind tezos is A+

>>10986366
It's not....

Can you read

>>10986360
>understand what's going on
a technically obsolete coin tries to copy functionality from more advanced networks, but nothing will come out of it
>>10986367
>t. craig 'call me satoshi' wright

>>10986459
Yes can you not see the writing on the wall vitalik basically shilled tezos himself

>>10985187
>why is ethereum dropping?

>>10985334
bcash etc?

>>10985334
>EOS is a scam and controlled and a few people.
Apparently "scam" is now defined as a product that's built perfectly to spec, released on time in working order, for a price determined by the market. please, pajeet, tell me why HOLO is better. I'm just dying to know

Rootstock

All that and it turned out to be a BCash shill. Good effort anon, sincerely.

>>10985187
>Kys if you think it's just because BTC is dropping. Look at the bigger picture
https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_eth

My post will be ignored, but I will tell you exactly why Ethereum is going down. Arbitrage bots are betting against Ethereum because of Bitcoin maximalism. That's it. I'm done.

>>10986639
That would be visible in rising shorts, but it isn't, therefore someone is selling eth directly

People gave thousands of ETH to shitty ICOs throughout all of 2017.

Do you have any idea how expensive a startup is? And they need USD/Euro, not internet funny money.


The chickens are just coming home to roost.

>>10986659
Miners dump more than ICOs. The inflation reduction will help a bit, but it's still going to be 33% higher than bitcoin's

sage goes in all the fields

>>10986652
Just fuse our posts and you get the entire chart

Expanse

>>10985685
>claims to be oldfag
>blames others for being redditors
>uses reddit spacing himself

>>10986674
how interesting, shorts are actually at ATH today!
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/ETHUSDSHORTS/
It looks like almost the entire recent fall is due to shorts

>>10986028
Smart contracts running on the EVM you brainlets

Hurr muh business logic

>>10986767
thats not a usecase. name a usecase.

>>10986028
censorship-resistant alternatives to every website that we currently use. regulation-free and jurisdiction-agnostic gambling.

>>10986773
Dead man switch
Lending
DEX
Gambling
Governance
>inb4 muh this is just complex multisig

>>10986773

dank memes

>>10986639
>Arbitrage bots are betting against
that's not what arbitrage is

I get that it's bcash, but trying to figure out why. Thanks based riddler OP.

>>10985448
I fucking hate this shill tactic.
>oooohhhh let me build suspense!!
>You’ll never guess what the next big thing is without me!
>now that your hooked in here is a contentless shill for some random shit coin

K Y S

>>10986979
sir if you can guess the lucky number i tell you which coin will go 100x in three day

>>10986459
MMM I think I know what you are talking about it seems. Give me the benefit of the doubt and assume I know what it is. What would you suggest moving forward?

>>10986085
Just tell us dude, stop wasting people's time.

>>10985514
> The language... its obsucure few people know it.
its literally js
you're retarded
fuck off

>>10987030
you're obviously not a programmer

>>10987004
This fucking Sub human omfg

>>10986459
chainlink?

>>10987019
>Just tell us dude, stop wasting people's time.


Kys I ALREADY HAVE

>>10987050
>all the diference in deterministic nature of solidity that doesn't let you do random throws, added inheretance and internal instead of protected
woah

>>10985187
>normies buy up Ether to participate in ICOs chasing those 300% daily gains
>99% if ICOs don't deliver, scammers dump their ether
Gee I don't know

>>10987130
I think you just called 95% of this board normies, lul. A lot of retards here lost money on ICOs.

>>10987080
Give us a ticker name, be more explicit.

>>10987080
>>10987079

>>10987192
BCH you absolute retard

>>10987215
Well that's retarded. What a waste of a thread.

>>10986977
>why
ethereum was always supposed to run on top of bitcoin. blockstream core told vitalik to go pound sand, his transactions on btc would be spam. so instead he made his own chain.
eth will just be a bch sidechain. using bch for scale and pow security

>>10987215
no early adopters are interested in bch, they got it for free in the airdrop anyway

eth is a dapp platform that can't run a single dapp. it is worth NOTHING. you morons buy it up to 28 billion dollars because you think the world will run on eth. it cant run a single little dapp. morons who bought it are slowing realizing this and selling. it will go to 0.

>>10985891
Lol, where to begin dude...

>>10987299
And I am buying it off the mans. Who is the greater moron? Because I can buy it all and will only sell it for 10x the price. And you all know that you're addicted to this game. You will buy any way just to be part of it again.

>>10985517
ETH goes to double digit shit, and a PnD group does it for the lulz.

Who else longing the fuck out of eth right now? I'm on 5x only because I'm a pussy, show me your longs boiss

>>10986028
Do you know how many billions of dollars companies spend on security infrastructure? All that can be replaced by the EVM. The value proposition on that alone is astronomical. That's not even getting into the IoT and web 3.0

>>10987346
>Do you know how many billions of dollars companies spend on security infrastructure?
no it can't, every transaction cost 5c minumum, and that's if you dont want to store any data on the chain, if you want to store 500 characters that's like 1$.

t. solidity dev

>>10986249
Dude absolutely. I unironically believe we are at the bottom because mouth breather are getting euphoric over the prospect of double digits Eth, just like people were screaming we're going to hit 100k in November 2017.

>>10985187
Low IQ thread

>>10987365
You probably suck as a dev when you code like that. That's probably why you are on biz instead getting paid properly for you "mad dev skillz".

>>10985685

I fucking hate this cryptic garbage. Just say what you have to say faggot. Saving this bullshit.

>>10987377
>You probably suck as a dev when you code like that. That's probably why you are on biz instead getting paid properly for you "mad dev skillz".
lol you can't bypass the transaction fee and the byte storage fee no matter how good of a dev you are retard.

which shitcoin is funding all these eth threads this month, bch or eos?

bcash shill

enjoy your dying coin

>>10987344
Based and checked.

>>10986249
ETH GOING SINGLE DIGITS

>>10987434


Tell me genius have you bothered to check the website?

>>10988140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS_gBVmaqYY

>>10988140
don't (B)other (T)rying (K)ike

no offense, I mean that literally

As much as I’d love ETH to be double digits to accumulate a fuck ton, just the fact that all of you retards are saying it’s going to happen and shorts are at ATH, it’s probably time to go long.

Have fun watching some whale put in a buy order and liquidate all the shorts to the top.

>>10988422
When the fuck is this going to happen? It's unironically getting worrying now. Shit is freefalling with no end in sight

>>10985557
Please

Words like these get my hopes up too much. Please.

>>10988436
Soon I’d think. ETH is criminally oversold right now from a TA standpoint. Not to mention the fact that it’s the second largest trading pair and has more daily transactions than pretty much any other coin. It could drop a tiny bit more but it has use for now so it can’t go away completely without someone taking advantage of the low prices and buying a shit ton

>>10985199
Yeah, that dude is so autistic he makes us look like normies

Its BITCOIN CASH.

Craig Wright is developing the platform that will make ETH useless.

>>10985534
LINK is not the chosen one then?

>>10988469
I feel like this is another case of extremely oversold, over-fudded coin rebounding super hard then everyone says "told you so, bounce was obvious" except it's been dropping for so long it makes me second guess myself

>>10985365

All of the proposed improvements to ethereum's network serve to reduce the security and decentralization that makes it, or any cryptocurrency, valuable in the first place.

Thread over.

>>10986922
>no response
Fag

>>10988140
Isn't BitcoinCash forking off? Why support Bcash when you can go with the ''I'm satoshi'' blockchain? I think Craig Wright supporting Bcash was the biggest thing going for it. I like how Ver is keeping it balanced however. But I do really think there's more value in the forked coin than in Bitcoin Cash.

ETH is like minecraft for cryptoes. Proof me ron.

>>10988627
>ron

Pajeet REEEEE

>>10988530
Sure and it’s certainly something to be concerned about. I just don’t see any way the second largest trading pair, highest transaction volume, backbone of multiple tokens, will crash into nothingness overnight. I wouldn’t doubt that something would take its place in the relatively near future but right now it wouldn’t make sense. Not to mention futures are about to happen so wall st probably would want to buy a bunch so they can short it all over again.

>>10988601
>bcash bcash bcash

How convenient to ignore the EEA and what it means that they are invested in ETH.
>but but all the fortune 500 companys are wrong and are also wasting their money pls sir buy bch instead I beg you sir

>>10988654
the worry isn't that it'll crash to zero overnight, but moreso that it will reach a bottom of somewhere around $150 per coin and will just sit there for months on end. it sucks because a lot of the coins i trade are paired with eth

>>10986481
Fucking this

It’s not that complicated guys.

>>10988683
Yeah I trade exclusively in ETH so I get it. What I’ll do occasionally though is trade out my ETH trading gains for BTC and just hold it that way. I’m much more confident about the longevity of BTC for sure so that could help. Not really ideal but could be a good way to hedge.

>>10988657
yeah I don't care dude, I'm just trying to have a conversation. Only Roger Ver gets angry at Bitcoin Cash being called Bcash.

>>10985377
Actually individual block producers can censor accounts at will. It doesn't even have to come from the top.

>>10988469
>>10988530

https://ethereumworldnews.com/global-blockchain-summit-shanghai-vitaik-buterin-nick-szabo-included/

Vitalik Buterin is meant to give a significant speech in the next few days during his yearly address at the Shanghai Block chain expo. Hopefully some good news will come out and stabilize the price and give it some upward momenrum.

>>10988777
Check those motherfuxiong digits I just got, goyim!!!

wondering why there is no proper short squeeze with shorts at ath to be honest. what the fuck.

>>10988774

>>10988816
Just waiting for the right "news" to trigger it.

>>10988816
Soon my friend. As soon as no one is willing to buy anymore as prices are going down, stop losses get tighter and tighter. That’s super juicy krill for the whales

>>10988816
So if I’m looking to get the fuck out I should wait

>>10985195
Zilliqa isn't half baked tho

So this thread was just one big elaborate BCH shill?

>>10985665
>this fag knows his shit

>>10985891
LOOK AT THIS DUMBFUCK /BIZ/

this is th kind of people literally giving "advices" out there...

>>10989083
Yeah

>>10987319
>You will buy any way just to be part of it again.

fuck you're right

>>10988931
thats what I do. if there is somd strong candles and some more uptrend I jump ship after some days.

>>10987365
I transacted for less than 1 cent 4 hours ago.

Wtf are you smoking cockbreath