/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10941582
You're basically right, but that's how markets work. Fools buy hype high and sell value low. You can point the facts out to them as much as you like, they'll never get it. You can't reason a person out of a position that they were never reasoned into.

>>10941582
Can we just keep fudding bitcoin down to $100 so I can join the 100 bch club please?

With that said bcash bcash bcash

>>10941582

SV, ABC or BU? Which one will win?

i don't get how anyone can still support core after last year. how many awesome bitcoin-based projects did high tx fees kill? too many. counter-party was basically useless, which is a large reason why so many people jumped on the ethereum train.

>>10941582
kys retard, none of that stuff matters, the rich are convinced blockstream shits gold, and so it is effectively being made true. They won't let themselves lose, and they have effectively infinite power. It's time to grow up and stop imagining this was ever a war you could win, the big boys have taken over your sandpit now and your only option is to get back to wagecucking. You never understood what was going on and you never will, because you don't understand human psychology and politics, which is infinitely more relevant to wealth management than technology and cryptography and networking.

roger ver your "CEO" is a scam artist. reddit is an easy target to scam because they are vulnerable morons.

satoshi is legit anon. produced a gem and fucked off. sorry, but bch will never compete regardless of if its better. its plagued with roger ver.

>>10941742
See? this cunt who is even more stupid than you is what you need to contend with. They are slaves. They fixate on people and personalities and are easily mainpulated into believing everything will be ok if they can just find the right person to trust and lead them. It is impossible for them to ever operate in a context where they are not led or looking for a leader. 99%+ of the global population simply lacks the mental hardware for that operation. That is why this decentralised nonsense is utterly doomed to fail.

The sheep need to be guided, coralled, shorn, and slaughtered. They were domesticated by the management of their betters over hundreds of years. There's no changing this. Hand them their freedom and they will re-shackle themselves in plain view of their herd mates for virtue signaling points.

>>10941773
>implying charlie lee didn't kill litecoin
>implying Carlos matos didn't kill bitconnect
>implying roger ver won't kill bch

>>10941773
I sincerely hope you're fucking wrong and choke to death on a fishbone or some shit but it's depressing as fuck that this has the ring of truth to it.

>>10941582
>BCH: Here's a 21.3MB block in production during stress test even with your shitty unoptimised codebase, you're an idiot and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Nobody cares about your retarded "stress" test. Nobody doubted that you could make a block that big with fake txns. It isn't surprising nor impressive. All of the arguments for why scaling in such a fashion is retarded still stand.

>BCH; Lol BU BItcoinABC BitcoinSV Bitmain internecine fork wars with dev voting and miners resolving contention by voting with their hash rate as per the original design.
Not something to be proud of. Great, you have two competing, centralized factions. One of which has no code, and the other one that steals code from core and has to be bailed out by charitable core devs.

>BCH: Take out a single node and watch > 30% of the payments fail. Look at a topology map, it's centralised as fuck.
>centralized as fuck
There is a mote in thine eye. And further, what topology map, hmm? I guarantee that you cannot show centralization except by misconstruing a node visualization.

https://hackernoon.com/them-lightning-network-nodes-sure-do-look-centralized-to-me-what-gives-ee39c9b12ac0

>>10941791
neck yourself you brainless fucktard, you're making everyone here look bad with your shit. Understand the fucking game you're playing. if people like >>10941773 are right, you're physically incapable of doing so. And if they are, the world is a much shittier place for it.

>>10941800
whatever man. dump all your money into bch and chainlink. please. take out loans too. max your cc's out. the world doesn't need more morons.

lightning network and atomic swaps are going to create the next crypto ecosystem. decentralized exchanges and paying for coffee with bitcoin. bch and your shitcoins are goign to be left behind.

>>10941793
>>10941800
In actuality, you're the retarded brainlet who has spent close to zero time understanding the arguments from either side. You base your decision on intuitions derived from a default "conspiratorial" mindset that is easily manipulated by people like Ver AND his shills (people like yourself).

>>10941797
(((misconstruing)))

>>10941837
Fuck off you dumb faggot.

>>10941797

>being centralized by 2 opposing factions
>centralized

>>10941832
nah he's right, your'e a dumb cunt.Of course that just makes >>10941773 blackpill more plausible, so not like he's winning or anything.

>>10941865
Yes and "fiat" isn't centralized because there are multiple countries! Gee wiz, what a scholar you are!

>>10941797
merchant don't want to open channels with users since resolving the LN contract is on-chan and costs money
users don't want many channels opened for the same reason
Solution : 2 large liquid hubs- Visa and Masterblock

>>10941902
but it's totally not centralised cos proof of neckbeard and hillbilly dentistry.

In other words, if you havent been buying bch youre a fucking retard

>>10941880
>>10941902
>>10941934
You will probably kill yourselves for having been so close to the moon ticket, yet allowing yourself to be conned out of it. Please livestream.

Those who live by the fork, die by the fork.

>>10941950

>>10941959

Adoption will happen with bch

>>10941959
this level of delusion.
Your meltdown when you figure out you were retroactively assfucked in the exact fashion you imagine those who didn't fall for the obvious con job were will be epic to behold.

>>10941663
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.

>>10942003
>As your conman led shitfork dumps and is itself shitforked by another conman while the CPC puppet-company that keeps it all alive desperately goes public to drum up money because of the giant btrash bags it traded actual bitcoin for.

>>10941724
based and redpilled

>>10941773
>Hand them their freedom and they will re-shackle themselves in plain view of their herd mates for virtue signaling points

I've been telling people something similar for years. One of the biggest redpills in life is that most people are stupid and no matter how much you help them they will still shoot themselves in the foot. I can't blame nobility and politicians for what they do, shit is too fucking easy to manipulate the general population for their agenda.

>>10942040
case in point >>10942053 will literally never figure out he's wrong.

>>10942053
why so mad lol, u dont have to be in here trying to convince everyone why youre not an idiot, make a lightning network thread lmao

>>10942107
Sad!

>>10942136
The big dog doesn't need to bark.

>>10942159
>9 posts
cringe

>>10942159
Way to prove you're not the big dog.

>>10942184
>>10942189
We're talking about threads sweeties, not posts. I BTFO'd an anon in my first post and the proceeded to shitpost on all the flaccid replies.

No bitcoiner feels compelled to make LN threads like you faggots feel COMPELLED to shill Bitcoin cash.

>>10942263
Nobody wants to shout loudly about their embarrassing genital rash, no. Especially when they broke a multi billion dollar network trying to convince fuckwits like you it was "digital gold" fucking lol. Coretards don't talk about lightning because there is nothin fuckin good to talk about. it's a fuckin trainwreck faggot.

You already lost. Stop being so annoying.

>>10942263
yikes

If CSW can fuck off we can finally rocket to the moon. This fork shit is absurdly stupid.

>>10942278
Your opinion is completely reliant on the baseless assertions you were told in whatever echo-chambers you frequent. It's only in /biz/ and /r/btc that Bitcoin is "broken" and LN is a "trainwreck". It's just a mantra you keep repeating over and over. Meanwhile, the world outside moves on.

I really wish that I could hold you personally accountable for your stupid fucking posts. Unfortunately, this screenshot will have to do.

>>10941773
people will learn they are speculators whether they know it or not when the value of their fiat drops to zero
it is better to try and help people even if they are not truly capable

>>10942318
We get it, you have nothing to say sweetie.

>>10942346
>It's only in /biz/ and /r/btc that Bitcoin is "broken" and LN is a "trainwreck"

Are you unironically saying that the majority is right because it's the majority? Holy fucking brainlet

>>10942343
lol I hope the fork happens like it did last time.
I'm going to drop half my bch stack into CSW coins and then average the rest of them into it over the next year.

If you can't read the writing on the wall, it means you are too stupid lazy to understand Bitcoin's value proposition and how that translates into technical reality.

>>10942398

Craig is a moron who copy pastes "Hello world" programs while spewing techno-babble. He can't program nor does he have any knowledge of bitcoin.

>>10942390
Nope. I am saying that they are right and you are wrong and your assertion doesn't even have the decency of being a majority opinion or a common opinion. At least if your assertion had that, it would carry some weight. But it doesn't. It is a wrong opinion and a minority opinion.

>>10942445
>I am saying that they are right and you are wrong

Literally l eddit groupthink. Fuck off faggot.

>>10942398
I dumped 95% of my core shitcoins on the BCH fork and made out like a bandit, but this November hardfork debacle I don't think there's actually gonna be a fork. The hashing power will fight it out and one will be dominant, as was originally intended in the design just like OP points out.
That said, if it is a carbon copy repeat of BCH/BTC, I will not be dumping either side of this fork. There are interesting and compelling arguments on both sides this time. It's no longer just LOL LETS HAVE ONE MEG BLOCKS FOREVER AND IMPLEMENT A CENTRALISED LAYER FOR SCALING LOL. I really don't know which to choose, and I don't have to. I can just hold and profit from the one that ends up being right.

>>10942500
>As he relied on groupthink to carry his own assertion.

>>10942518

I have good reasons to believe BCH is the superior coin. Corecucks just have buzzwords and 1000 saved images of roger ver.

>>10942518
It's funny watching you struggle with the concept that in an informed audience, it's you that is the minority.
Consider that. I mean, I know nothing will come of it, because you're a brainlet.. but hey, can't hurt right?

bcash lol