/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10873648
>xrp pajeet spending hours on ms paint to try and FUD Stellar
LMAO you cripple fags are embarrassing

>>10873648
smeller poomens

>>10873656
There's this one XLM hodler that's responsible for most of the XLM threads on this board and he immediately and automatically assumes all XLM criticism comes from XRP hodlers.

Shows you a little about their mentality. They are so afraid of being found out as a scam they want to divert attention immediately onto XRP.

>>10873693
>Shows you a little about their mentality.
Yeah it does by reading your deluded post.
OBBSSSEEESSSEDDD

>>10873656
I don't hold any xrp and I find it kind of amazing that either of you trashbag holding faggot tribes are even arguing over this instead of being concerned for yourselves. Both of these coins have terrible distribution.

>>10873761
>arguing
who said were arguing? I'm laughing at this loser spending hours on ms paint to try and FUD lmao

>>10873764
Could you provide counter argument to OP? I dont touch either of those atm.

>>10873761
All coins have terrible distribution

97% of BTC is held by 4% of addresses.

But 95% of XLM is held by 0.0001% of addresses.

>>10873784
He doesn't have an argument, it's a lie what he posted. You can do your own research if you really care

There's only 18 billion XLM out right now, how can there be 99billion xlm ready to dump if it's still in the hands of the SDF (non-profit) who have their own roadmap?
Clearly someone is spouting random bullshit without doing their own research... hmm I wonder who would do that?

>>10873786
that is why i use NANO

>>10873786
97% of BTC is held by 4% of addresses.
that is not fitting, since 1 adress != 1 person
but in the top holders, 1 adress = 1 person for sure

>>10873806
https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/XLM?filter=asset-holders

Yep do your own research go there and check for yourself

>>10873821
>100 billion lumens was created from the existence
>public ledger shows the wallets
>yup do your own research and check for yourself
lmao you pajeet brainlets are retarded

>>10873822
Logic escapes you clearly.

I didn't say 1 address = 1 person.

Best case scenario 1 address = 1 person.

In this case you could easily paint a much worse picture with the same data.

>>10873833
>data
I don't think you're using that data properly

>>10873830
We're talking about the lopsided distribution wherein somewhere between 1 and 20 people own 99% of the coins and will dump on you without warning. Welcome to the real world.

>>10873833
97% of tokens being held by the top 4% adresses doesn't tell you how well distributed it is, since there are tons of completely empty bitcoin adresses

>>10873844
That makes no sense.
lmao you're shilling for Cripple you absolute retard. What are they going do with 60 billion Ripple? Not unload it onto the market?

How can you seriously try to shill against Stellar when Cripple is literally in the same boat

fucking retards lmfao

>>10873890
>What are they going do with 60 billion Ripple? Not unload it onto the market?

You're the one who keeps bringing up XRP

At least XRP is escrowed.

>>10873890
>Cripple is literally in the same boat
you are ignoring that ripple has their xrp cryptographically time escrowed, unlike stellar which actually can be dumped at any time

>>10873900
>At least it's escrowed
You do know that over 80 billion Lumens is in Escrow right?
lmao

This is low IQ cripple baghodler intelligence everyone

>>10873910
>cryptographically time escrowed,
LMAO
>unlike stellar which actually can be dumped at any time
MLFAOOO

Where'd you get that type of information btw? lmao

>>10873916
>You do know that over 80 billion Lumens is in Escrow right?
>lmao
It's not in escrow.

Show me the escrow transaction

>>10873916
lmao totally false, stellar doesn't even has a escrow function
>>10873926
https://ledger.exposed/escrow-stats
here, anyone can verify each adress and see by themselves that it is escrowed
unlike stellar, the founder holds 80% of the supply and can dumped at will, nobody could stop him

>>10873948
>the founder holds 80
The founder doesn't own anything actually. Unlike the CEO of Cripple who literally owns over 10 billion XRP in his pocket. TALK ABOUT CENTRALIZED LMFAO
>, stellar doesn't even has a escrow function
Lmao Jed created cripple you absolute retard, you don't think he made a better software when he released Stellar?

It's called having multiple signatures in a non-profit company with people don't at the liberty to act for their own gain
CLEARLY SOMETHING CRIPPLE ISNT BECAUSE IT'S A FORPROFIT WITH A BUNCH OF KIKES TRYING TO RICH OFF NORMIE HYPE LMAO

>>10873975
>The founder doesn't own anything actually.
Yeah and the Clinton Foundation isn't a pedophile ring.

Glad we cleared that up.

>>10873990
>hurr durr
Nice argument cripple boi
enjoy the lawsuits

>>10873975
>The founder doesn't own anything actually.
lol
>the tokens are in my wallet but i don't own anything, pinky promess

> you don't think he made a better software when he released Stellar?
lol no, he ragequit ripple and tried to copy paste the code but it could't make it as good, the transactions are slower and it has less tps
and none of the advanced functions xrp has

>>10874002
>I can't prove anything so i'll just say the owner has tokens in his wallet
Lmao I can prove Brad has over 10 billion XRP because it's actually stated on the internet you retard. None of the founders were at the liberty to get lumens. Go do some research if you actually care. Oh wait what am i saying, retards like you just hold onto 1 shitcoin until you lose everything, carry on lmao

Keep acting like you actually know what the Stellar software is.

>>10874002
not to mention XLM is beta software

XRP is in production

I bet Stellar network experiences a crash or freeze like they did previously. Joel Katz told them they implemented the protocol incorrectly.

>>10874016
a lame copy paste
jed mccaleb holds 80% of the total supply and it is a fact stated in https://www.stellar.org/

>>10874045
can you copy and paste it? I don't see it on the website
If you paste it 'll just ctrl+f and find the source then dump all my XLM bags

>>10874036
>acting like he knows what the Stellar software is when his entire post history is full of non-sense and FUD
...right... who are you trying to sell to?
We all know you can't do 1 shred of research but try to make up theories lmao

>>10874062
>We all know you can't do 1 shred of research but try to make up theories lmao

Trying this hard

You wouldn't believe who I am lol

Let's say I'm familiar with the codebase of both projects.

>>10873910

When Pajeets make up shit: the post

>>10874077
>im familiar with the codebase of both projects
yet you spend 18 hours on /biz/ FUDing XLM lmfao
Do you seriously think you know the codebase of XLM when for the last 11 posts all you have posted was FUD?

>>10874080
https://ledger.exposed/escrow-stats
learn to read

>>10874080
>When Pajeets make up shit: the post
Do you not believe XRP is escrowed?

>>10874099
>>10874100
>https://www.stellar.org/developers/guides/concepts/multi-sig.html
Here, not only did Jed make an escrow built into the software code, but he made it 100x better than Cripple software

>decide to buy crytpo in early September 2017
>ripple at 25 cents
>stellar at 2 cents
>hmmm
>stellar makes more sense long term planning wise
>buy 100k Stellar
>spend only $2000 cause I'm not risking much
>stellar today: 23 cents (+21)
>ripple today: 34 cents (+9)
>stellar has huge momentum
>ripple is hiring pajeets, snoop dogg and bill clinton to seem cool

I made the right choice. Ripple is fagshit.

>>10874113
>https://www.stellar.org/developers/guides/concepts/multi-sig.html
Multisig is not escrow you fucking brainlet

>>10874127
>the guy who knows both code bases can't even read the dev page
lol ok pajeet


>This type of signer is especially useful in escrow accounts.
>You can pre-authorize two different transactions. Both could have the same sequence number but different destinations. This means that only one of them can be executed.
>https://www.stellar.org/developers/guides/concepts/multi-sig.html#pre-authorized-transaction

>>10874127

>13 posts by this ID

Any bets on what haskreet will get up tonight?

>>10874123
>I made the right choice. Ripple is fagshit.
enjoy the ride back down to 2c where xlm belongs

>>10874113
>braging about multisignature
that is one of the most basic feature of a cryptocurrency, ripple has it since it was created, did jed just invented the wheel too?

>>10874136
You literally don't understand what a time locked escrow is do you?

>>10874123
lol how retarded, don't you realize that these 2 coins have diferent circulating supplies

>PNpyCokc
>trying this hard to FUD Stellar with random nonsense and misinformation
What's more surprising is not how much misinformation you know about Stellar, but how much you are actually misinformed on Cripple

Cripple baghodlers actually think they're going to get rich off banking hype and normies buying their cheap coin
BELIEVE THAT
No foundation, no progress, just pure hype (we-we-w got SBI, just you wait!) lmfao. So much 'waiting'. Have to wait for Coinbase listing.. nope.. Have to wait for SBI... still nope.. Have to wait for Western Union... whoops I guess that isn't actually going to happen anymore..
Holy shit I can't wait for that Hindenburg to fucking burst

>>10874170
at least xrp is being used, stellar isn't being used for shit

and ripple has delivered more for xrp than ibm and the sdf for stellar

>>10874170
>Cripple baghodlers actually think they're going to get rich off banking hype and normies buying their cheap coin
That's a perfectly reasonable assumption when 200 banks are implementing software that contains an XRP liquidity option

Believing 1 partnership with IBM will fix XLM's distribution or coding issues or its lack of features or adoption.... yeah I got news for you anon...

>>10874182
No one is using XRP lmao and if they are, they're exchanges who sell/trade crypto to make money.
Literally no one else uses XRP

>stellar isn't being used for shit
huh... are you sure about that? Now before you go into the link below, remember these are partnerships that have already been signed and the project is already past pilot stage. Ok I just want to make that clear because you cripple fags think partnerships == usage, which idk where you got that mentality from (you faggots probably fell for the TRON hype too I bet).

>https://www.stellar.org/about/directory

There's actually more banks using Stellar software for real-world usage than Cripple
hilarious if you think about it. I bet you didn't even know that fact

>>10874207
eh... Cripple baghodlers and their 'assumptions'..
see >>10874209
>Now before you go into the link below, remember these are partnerships that have already been signed and the project is already past pilot stage. Ok I just want to make that clear because you cripple fags think partnerships == usage, which idk where you got that mentality from (you faggots probably fell for the TRON hype too I bet).

>>10874209
>https://www.stellar.org/about/directory
>Our partners
>partnerships == usage
you said it, nobody is using stellar, the volume is too low to be used the same way xrp is being used

>>10874235
I was saying that about you cripple baghodlers lmao
Can you not read?

huh... are you sure about that? Now before you go into the link below, remember these are partnerships that have already been signed and the project is already past pilot stage. Ok I just want to make that clear because you cripple fags think partnerships == usage, which idk where you got that mentality from (you faggots probably fell for the TRON hype too I bet).

>https://www.stellar.org/about/directory

> be able to leverage new technologies to send and receive money more efficiently to more than 70 countries.
>https://www.transfer-to.com/moneytransfer/news/1137/TransferTo-partners-with-Stellarorg-to-bolster-international-money-transfers

>This cross-border payments solution is already processing live transactions in 12 currency corridors across the Pacific Islands and Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. IBM has convened an initial group of diverse banking leaders as part of the development and deployment process, including Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria, Bank Danamon Indonesia, Bank Mandiri, Bank Negara Indonesia, Bank Permata, Bank Rakyat Indonesia, Kasikornbank Thailand, Mizuho Financial Group, National Australia Bank, Rizal Commercial Banking Corp. (RCBC) Philippines, Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group, TD Bank, Wizdraw (HK) of WorldCom Finance, and other financial institutions.
>https://www.stellar.org/blog/IBM-KlickEx-Partnership/
That's just 2 projects from 2 partners i picked from that page

>>10874288
>https://www.stellar.org/about/direct
>it says in the front page
>Our partners
and as you said before, only partners, and partners != production use, testing at most, xlm is in beta and not ready for production, unlike xrp
>>10874304
and what they plan to do is to issue a FIAT PEGGED COIN in xlm ledger and they are going to use that coin and not xlm
deluded bagholder

>>10874304
If IBM wants this thing to be successful they'll switch from XLM to XRP, simple as that.

>>10874321
>and what they plan to do is to issue a FIAT PEGGED COIN in xlm ledger and they are going to use that coin and not xlm


You do realise there's dozens of fiat pegged coins on the XRP ledger right now, right anon?

>>10874330
that is correct, but parners aren't using fiat pegged coins, they are using xrp

>>10874324
right.. that's why they're hell deep into XLM right?
Lmao keep dreaming

>>10874321
>anaananaha I can't see anything nnanananana I see nothing
>even after you copy and paste it
lmao deluded baghodlers

>>10874363
10 partnerships vs 200

>>10874344
>that is correct, but parners aren't using fiat pegged coins, they are using xrp

Partners issue fiat coins

>>10874363
IBM aren't stupid they might be into XLM in this test part of the market just like they were into hyperledger before that

As the market matures they'll tell Lund to find a more liquid coin not run by a known scammer or gtfo. My strong suspicion is the only reason Stellar is in this partnership is Lund is friends with Jed.

>>10874395
My strong suspicion is you are double digit IQ

>>10874387
eh... 200 partnerships that aren't doing anything and are still in the paper agreement stage or more than 50 companies and financial organizations actually using XLM everyday for their business use?
Yeah... I don't think you did your due diligence.

>>10874136
Brilliant. A multi-sig "escrow" between the guy who already sabotaged his first project and one of his buddies. Or did he hire his incompetent gf for this job too?

>>10874390
some partners do, they need to create liquidity between fiat and xrp
but they buy, send and sell xrp not trade the fiat pegged coin directly like stellar partners

>>10874407
they are not going to touch xlm they will use their fiat pegged coin to trade between them

>>10874407
IBM have to answer to shareholders. What plan is there to improve XLM liquidity?

>>10874415
I mean realistically if they do exit-scam, you do realize the US Federal government has to hunt them down right?

>>10874424
Yeah im done replying to you lmao. At least understand what Stellar is so you can properly FUD it you retard

>>10874425
You can just wait and see. December is fireworks time :)

>>10874449
that is literally what the partners are doing

>>10874387
>partnerships

ITT: Bagholders of centralized non-blockchain shitcoins fling shit that would have otherwise ended up in the street at each other

>>10874457
Oh are they now? Tell me more

>>10874478
https://coincentral.com/ibm-and-stronghold-partner-to-release-usd-pegged-stablecoin/
yes they are trying to create a fiat pegged coin to trade between them and not use xlm

>>10874507
... but they're using the Stellar Network?
What? That makes no sense? Can you explain more?

>>10874508
they are using the tech but not buying xlm scam coin

>>10874530
>they are using the tech but not buying xlm
But how are they using the Stellar Network without using XLM?
That makes no sense dude. Are you even reading it properly?

>>10874556
by issuing a fiat pegged coin that has nothing to do with xlm, xlm is used to pay fees, which are nearly non existent

>>10874572
>by issuing a fiat pegged coin that has nothing to do with xlm,
How are they trading on the Stellar Network then? Do you even know what Stellar is and how it works?
>21 posts by this ID
lmao are you trying to teach me about Stellar?

Here's a tip you retarded pajeet: You need at least 1.5XLM in your wallet in order to do anything.

lying pieces of shit trying to FUD this coin.

there are no more direct giveaways as they state on their webpage.

>>10874588
>issue a token in the stellar network
>never actually use xlm
>agree with all the other partners to use the fiat pegged issued token instead
???
xlm token holders financially ruined

>>10874610
>spam a thread with nonsense FUD
>try to shill against Stellar but it's actually counterproductive and more people are learning about Stellar
????
enjoy the flippening cripplefanboi

>>10874616
>real facts
>nonsense FUD

>>10874661
>nonsense and bullshit
>calling it real facts
Lmao clearly. Anyone has to just see your post history and know exactly how much you actually know
Your portfolio must be in the millions

>>10874673
you could't prove wrong anything i said

ripple and stellar bagholders arguing are like two shitskins arguing about which is more white.

two centralized shitcoins are not going to be adopted or used by anybody, nobody has any incentive to waste time with it. if the tech is good, they will use that, not the public chain with the embarrassingly broken distrubution.

the sooner you late adopters realize this the sooner you might actually starting making more than a couple of times your money.

>>10874673
>posts rick and morty
>shills xlm

Anon, I....

>>10874678
>nuh uh
You have to be over 18 to use this board by the way.

>>10874688
>eos baghodler
o-ok. Talk about centralized shitcoin lmao
>>10874694
>comes to image board
>cries about a certain cartoon