/biz/ - Business & Finance

How do you prove that you're trustworthy and not listening in?

>>10856492
How can I prove it besides sharing my service? I won't do that because I lie, many of them do.

I use VPS, not dedicated.
I say we don't log, I do.

Why do you keep logs and lie? Isn’t it as easy as, I don’t know, NOT keeping logs? The fuck is wrong with you dishonest kikes?

>>10856465
Can white men even compete these days?

>>10856752
Only in areas of success, relationship longevity, intelligence, good looks(all races prefer white men on dating apps), uh, the list goes on

>>10856793
Delusion.

>>10856793
Delusion

>>10856465
good for them. must be nice seeing them get plowed imho. i prefer tight pussy anyways

>>10856793
Delusion

>>10856465
what happens when someone downloads cp over your vpn? I was thinking about doing a service like that, but I'm afraid the police will just confiscate all my computers and arrest me before I have a chance to explain, destroying the business instantly

>>10856689
I'm American. When police contact me about a certain IP address it gives me trouble if I cannot provide it. They will pressure me into wiresharking and compromising everyone.

>>10856870
Nothing, you are not legally in trouble. I log, but haven't received a single email from police. I have received others regarding abuse or torrenting, but I say I don't log. Only if I am served a subpoena will I comply so I don't get shut down.

It's like reddit or 4chan being in trouble for someone uploading cp. As a vpn you are not held liable for misuse of your service.

>>10856515
Would be a good thread if you weren't probably stealth shilling something.
What is it?
Some other "fair" competitor?
Are you going to phonepost "the solution"?

>>10856935
I'm not shilling anything. I purposely said I won't share my service because it's a sham and some anon may start exposing it as such.

Competitor is any VPN provider, PIA, Nord, Cyberghost. But I am much smaller.

>>10856953
To clarify, it's not a sham as in I take your money and offer no service or shitty service.

I lie about using dedicated servers and logging to advertise to those wanting privacy.

>>10856953
I can wait

>>10856972
>I lie about using dedicated servers and logging to advertise to those wanting privacy
Literally anyone who would use a vpn

>>10856931
Would you consider putting up a fake warrant canary?

>>10857086
That's not true at all. You think that because you spend a lot of time on 4chan and sites that are geared towards more technological people.

The vast majority of vpn users want to bypass geoblocks. Even those that want privacy do zero research, they assume they don't log even if the company openly admits they do.

The privacy focused vpn users is a very small subset, however it's easier to advertise to those people because they have a large presence online.

>>10857097
Most don't do that anymore. It's a flawed system anyway and only a few customers inquired about it.

>>10857097
I find that canary thing to be incredibly childish. How is it even a thing?

How did you get started? Whats your biggest expense? I imagine you need a lot of bandwidth?

>>10857151
I started with $10,000. Paid some Indian software engineer to build the client. Rest was put into initial servers. All the backend stuff is fairly simple, and I had zero experience. There are plenty of guides online on how to do it.

Yes you need a lot of bandwidth, but there's a lot of hosting providers that offer unlimited. But you still need to email them about the use, because unlimited is never really unlimited. Each server costs me around $70 a month.

Don't want to get into specifics,but most used countries are USA, Canada, and Netherlands. Reason being is this.

USA is for those that want close servers for fast speed but want to disguise their ip.

More privacy based people use Canada, because in their minds it's in another country so the legal process of subpoena is slightly harder. Benefits are it's still close.

And Netherlands still has a reputation for respecting internet privacy, which is bullshit. But people believe that. Good thing about the Dutch is they have incredibly quick network lines across Europe.

>>10857234
Forgot to add that I have 110 servers in total. My cost is just about $9,500 a month.

>>10857234
How do you market?

>>10856465
reported

>>10857252
Are you even profitable?

>>10857269
I shilled on 4chan and reddit at first. There's always thread about vpn's or when there's a thread for sharing nudes and people want to be safe.
Additionally I try to get IP's that aren't blacklisted by 4chan, so there's always that benefit. Reddit has plenty privacy subs. Discord and volafile for sharing porn has thousands of users.

Now I offer generous affiliate programs that have helped a lot.

>>10857313
Absolutely. I offer 1, 3, 6, 12 month packages, so it's not a steady amount. However my ARPU is $3 per customer. I have 11,384 to be exact.

After network costs, the 3 people I hired to handle customer service, and money pumped back in for future growth I already take in a salary of $10,000/month

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Fuck off samefag.

>>10857365
Are you based in Canada? I think I know you.

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>>10857418
You literally admit to not only using, but OWNING a VPN service and you expect us to believe that you're not just one person doing ~90% of the question-asking and general posting in this thread to push anti-white propaganda for the purpose of breaking up normal discussion on the board.

>>10856465
how much do you actually look at logs/how often are you asked for them?

which country are based in?

how much customer support do you have to do?

>>10857485
I used that photo because this board always replies to blacked girls. It's filled with cucks you need to use it to your advantage.

>>10856515
>I say we don't log, I do.
switch to a diff country and stop being a piece of garbage