/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10805887

If it goes below 250 I'm piling in with most of my savings.

I fucked my first opportunity at $7.

kek
if you still hold this shit, sell it now

>>10806367
This is a weird board. People just make dumb claims based on nothing.

>>10805887
Now before your new king ETH cucks

ethereum has a 30 billion market cap.. that is fucking ridicuous. you cant even play cryptokitties on it! 1 billion market cap is a fair valuation currently

Press S to spit on grave

It's a shitcoin

>>10805887
Ethereum is the AOL of the blockchain. Bitcoin is the Apple, EOS is the Microsoft.

>>10806367
Found the Neo cuck.

>>10806651
Doing the opposite of what niggers do is how you win in finance anon.

>>10806611
how the fuck is 1bn any more fair than 30bn? what is your valuation method?

>>10806698
Unfair question.
No one has a valuation method in crypto at all.

>>10806802
You can make theoretical valuations using things like mining costs, ICO prices, allocated network resources etc.

>>10806671
>EOS is Microsoft

LOL

>>10805887
Link will take Eth to new Ath's

>>10805887
fucking hell. I'm getitng my eth back from a failed ICO tomorrow. But it was worth 500 when i invested..

if eos fail smart contracts are dead. eos and every other broken dpos coin is centralized and worthless, chink smart contract platforms will never be used outside of china, and there's nothing on the horizon that even looks like a blockchain "2.0" for smart contracts, outside of second layers, so we're stuck with this level of tech for at least another year or two.

>>10807074
if ethereum fails smart contracts are dead*

>>10807037
perspective anon. You’re lucky you’re getting it back at all. You should know better than to fuck with bad ICOs. Learn from your mistakes.

>>10807085
Uh no, Link is blockchain agnostic.

>>10807130
>Uh no, Link is blockchain agnostic.
This
Anyway eth being cheaper would just make link more appealing on eth not less.

If not ETH, I hope Zilliqa will keep crypto alive at least until the next technological breakthrough will come, finger crossed for their mainnet launch.

just wait for the next eth that solves scailability. it could be years before it happens

right now.. im buying back btc at 3k and holding long term. btc is only long term crypto. store of value.

>>10805928
>If it goes below 1000 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 700 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 500 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 300 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 250 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
You are now here
>If it goes below 150 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 50 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 20 I'm piling in with most of my savings.
>If it goes below 2 I'm piling in with most of my savings.

>>10807316
ah yes classic logic brought you by:

>if btc goes below $10 i'm piling in with most of my savings

i dont think even the retards on 4chan honestly believe btc could ever go below $10

It's at the lowest point. I don't want to sound like a retard, because I don't really understand coins all that well, but the current trend shows it's going to receive a significant moon-mission, like a retarded one, and a lot of people, like last time, are going to buy when it fizzles out.

Unless that was the big secret.. Sorry if I spoiled the secret. Like I said.. i'm new here.

>>10806466
people like that are autists ignore them

>>10807452
You don’t know shit kid

>>10807339

Those days are over.

Unless the flip happens

>>10807452
The current trend shows pump and dump schemes.

>>10807316
My number is around $100 right now. Would be ok with $50 - $200.
Less than 50 I'd have to reasses again.

>>10807567
He's most likely right. I'm in USDT but considering to move back into crypto I just have that gut feeling

>>10806671
Microsoft isn't a scam.

>>10807897
You guys remind me of Liberals who still can't come to terms with the fact that Trump is their president. It brings joy to my life seeing you scream and flail as your precious dreams are crushed by your mortal enemy.

I’m so glad I bought at $0.50 in 2015

>>10807922
Eos has no use. It's going to function as a ridiculously expensive hosting solution, everipedia and steemit 2.0. Insanity certain to burn out when the hype ends (which can take years to be fair).
A dapp only makes sense when it's something that exists by itself, impossible to achieve otherwise. Eos model assumes each dapp has an owner that controls it.
Etherdelta is a dapp. It got bought by clueless chinks who didn't realize how it works. People just switched to forkdelta. That's a dapp, the contract just exists by itself.

>>10807676
Stay in USDT you fucking pussy. Day traders are the fucking worst.

>>10807897
>he unironically thinks eos is a scam
you probably hold vechain too. kys.
>>>/r/eddit is that way btw

>>10808066
This

I tried to knife catch at $360. How fucked am I?

>>10808080
noice

>>10808116
Day trading fuckers generate tax events to panic sell and drive volatility as they market buy $1.02 tether. Fuck them. Finish flushing them out.
Crypto is a one way road.

>>10808066
>no use
>doesn't think being jurisdiction agnostic and censorship resistant is important
>developers moving to it in hordes
>one single EOS dapp has half the daily transactions as the entire Ethereum blockchain

you sound like a less eloquent version of Peter Schiff. Very weak arguments my dude.

>>10808111
not at all if you don't do anything stupid like sell at a loss. Just be patient.

>>10808209
I'm not selling if I can hold, that's for sure, but my longterm bullish gamble is based on bitcoin, not ETH. I bought into ETH with 300€ because I wanted more fiat to buy BTC, so I thought I just try and swing trade. Ironically, I put 100€ into BTC like two weeks ago and the value hasn't changed. I am seriously considering seeling my 1 ETH, losing arround 60 to 80€ and puttin the rest into BTC. I only have 2000€ on my exchange and I fear that BTC is near the bottom and that I won't be able to reach 1 BTC by februrary if I don't put every single cent of my disposable income into BTC right now.

>>10808145
>muh tax events
gb2rdt

>>10808335
Yes I pay taxes on alt to alt trades. I'm an American, our government throws people in jail for failing to disclose taxable income.
I don't want to live in fear of binance reporting user accounts to the IRS. DEXs don't have enough liquidity yet.

>>10807316
good luck FOMO-ing in later
Eth didn't even fall below $120 last summer lows

>>10806651
>b-but the guy who has the most to gain from eth going down said in the media that eth is a shitcoin so it must be true

This board sucks ass

>>10806802
XMR has inherent value because it has a usecase.
>Extrapolate how many people will use XMR to buy internet drugs.
>Discern that XMR can be worth, actually worth, $2k if it gets 80% darkweb saturation.
How much if it becomes the de facto black market currency?
The mind boggles.

>>10808396
Check last spring, you fucking brainlet newfag.

>>10808378
This. My wife's son would NOT approve otherwise. Sure, I never received a 1099 and there's no indication that Binance would randomly start issuing them before retailers such as Amazon and eBay for independent sales, but by golly, I just want to do the right thing and stay safe! My wife's boyfriend agrees that it's the right course of action for me.

>>10808111
I bought the falling knife at 700, 500, and 275.

If you believe that it will go back up then it doesn’t really matter (although it sucks knowing I could have double my ETH right now)

>>10808482
Do you really believe that it will? lmao
We're in dangerous territory. This happened before and let me tell you, ETH can still fall to $50 if we continue on this 2014 trend

>>10808482
I belive that Bitcoin will reach 200k eventually. Not a lot of faith in ETH however.

>>10808481
big if true

>>10808151
>censorship resistant is important
It's the single most mutable platform on cmc. They block accounts based on whatsapp screenshots. It's hilarious.
https://eoscorearbitration.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ECAF-Order-of-Emergency-Protection-2018-07-19-AO-004-Reissue.pdf
Zero censorship resistance.
>developers moving to it in hordes
Blatantly false.
>one single EOS dapp has half the daily transactions as the entire Ethereum blockchain
Without checking, I bet it's something retarded like a twitter clone. You want decentralized communication? Use a fucking mailing list. Email is already decentralized.
As the core functionality is the same this proves that blockchain is pointless for this. Mail scales way, way better than eos can and there are no bps that can delete mail on your disk.
Mailing lists died because centralized solutions gave users storage for 'free' in exchange for showing them ads. Not possible on the blockchain.

Blockchain is useful mainly for tokenizing assets. Only an insane man would prefer to issue a bond on eos where it can be arbitrarily frozen by BPs over ethereum.
Would you feel safer owning a tokenized house on ethereum or on eos with ECAF? Even if fee on ethereum is $10 and $0 on eos, it doesn't matter, eos is fundamentally useless for that.

>>10808481
I'm all in crypto and developing in the space. Please, don't report on taxes and fight the system. I fully support that, but I won't put a target on my back.

>>10808505
In what world is BTC worth 200k and ETH isn’t even worth $300. I just don’t see it.

>>10808495
Yeah I do, which is why I’m still buying. You may be right about the price drop, but my point is that if you DCA then you won’t have to try and time the bottom. Obviously you’re profit margin won’t be as high, but I’d prefer to play conservatively.


I just don’t see ETH going away anytime soon. It may keep dipping, but I think it will follow BTC on the next run

>>10808608
>Yeah I do, which is why I’m still buying. You may be right about the price drop, but my point is that if you DCA then you won’t have to try and time the bottom. Obviously you’re profit margin won’t be as high, but I’d prefer to play conservatively.
>
>
>I just don’t see ETH going away anytime soon. It may keep dipping, but I think it will follow BTC on the next run
sensible outlook

>>10808548
>They block accounts based on whatsapp screenshots. It's hilarious.
That account never got blocked though. And they aren't doing that anymore.

>Blatantly false.
Blatantly true. Just got to newdex and look at all the airdrop tokens.

>Without checking, I bet it's something retarded like a twitter clone.
Nope. It's a gambling dapp. Real time gambling, something that Ethereum will never be able to do.

>Use a fucking mailing list. Email is already decentralized.
wtf are you talking about? Email is completely centralized unless you host your own server, but then only your side is decentralized.

> Only an insane man would prefer to issue a bond on eos where it can be arbitrarily frozen by BPs over ethereum.
Only an insane man would prefer to trust their money to a contract that cannot be fixed if a bug or exploit is found. Only an insane man would trust their money to an immutable blockchain that can do absolutely nothing about theft, fraud, or mistyped addresses. Only an insane man would try to build complex software on an immutable contract. Only an insane man would tokenize their house on a blockchain where a stolen private key or contract bug would mean unrecoverable and permanent loss of their property.

>>10806810
EOS is fucking Linux, at best
Dreamcast at worst

>>10808638
Dreamcast was amazing though

We have a lot more pain to feel. I really hope you didnt get into Eth late 2017 lol.

You didnt buy Eth for more than double digits? Did you anon?

>>10808548
It's not even a twitter clone, it's a fucking dice game.
EOS is unironically last year's scam.
If you are still holding you are now officially a bagholder.

>>10808066
>Eos model assumes each dapp has an owner that controls it.
lmfao

>>10808624
> That account never got blocked though. And they aren't doing that anymore

The fact that they both thought they could do that AND thought it would be a good idea shows some very poor judgement though.


> Only an insane man would prefer to trust their money to a contract that cannot be fixed if a bug or exploit is found. Only an insane man would trust their money to an immutable blockchain that can do absolutely nothing about theft, fraud, or mistyped addresses. Only an insane man would try to build complex software on an immutable contract. Only an insane man would tokenize their house on a blockchain where a stolen private key or contract bug would mean unrecoverable and permanent loss of their property

These are good points and I believe these issues are some of the main impediments to mass adoption. Why does this need to be implemented into the platform though instead of DAPP specific? If EOS does become the crypto infrastructure platform, won’t that be an insane amount of micromanaging on EOS’s part to have to reverse or fix transactions on every dAPP?

I may be way off base here but just a thought

>>10808624
>anymore
KEK

>>10805887
>been hodling since 800
someone save me

>>10808655
>dca: $80
>choice 0% influenced by bullrun
>would have bought at $10 if i only heard of it 6 months earlier
end my suffering

>>10807676
>unironically holding USDT

Brainlet alert! Why not hold actual fucking USD?

>>10808655
>You didnt buy Eth for more than double digits? Did you anon?

Cannot wait for "You didn't buy your LINK for less than $1, anon?" posts

This is a cyclic process and we are at or near the bottom, now is the time to buy in and not in a few months time when you FOMO in ETH at $1k.

>>10808965
I hope. You Pajeets got me to buy $100 worth at .23. At least the link threads are fun for me now.

>>10809010
do you think breaking below june 2017 levels is a healthy cyclical process anon?

>>10808335

Some people here actually make significant money trading so we have to account for taxes. Must be nice to just always lose and not have to deal with taxes

>>10809187
imagine being smart enough to consistently make so much money that you think the gov't cares about you but dumb enough to voluntarily participate in such a scheme

>>10805887
I dumped this shitcoin back when shitalik called Satoshi a fraud

>>10808624
>Just got to newdex and look at all the airdrop tokens.
lol
>Nope. It's a gambling dapp
Yet another clone of satoshidice? That's disappointing
It used to be the main source of btc transactions when there was no other usecase too
>Real time gambling
eos block time is 0.5 seconds, that's not realtime.
>Email is completely centralized
email is fully decentralized, the mail is sent to the server on the target domain. It even works with bare ip addresses
>Only an insane man would trust their money to an immutable blockchain
immutability is the whole point, without immutability you get the current system.
>Only an insane man would try to build complex software on an immutable contract
what are you even doing in crypto? Everything is already perfectly mutable as you like it. It's called a SQL database.
>Only an insane man would tokenize their house on a blockchain where a stolen private key or contract bug would mean unrecoverable and permanent loss of their property.
Current system relies on handwritten signatures. It's enough to forge one and you lose everything. Private keys are infinitely better.
http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/stolen-abandoned-houses-deeds-theft-fraud-philadelphia-20180629.html

>>10809187

>doesnt realize the gov is defunded and demoralized with a literal criminal as the head of the executive branch and therefore no one is doing shit but collecting a paycheck because the american public is too stupid to appreciate their work

as planned

>>10808888

>>10809236
> there is no statute of limitations for civil tax fraud
What did they mean by this?

wow these eos airdrops - it's like a parade of parody ico sites, except they're real
"With PodOne, an employer can auction its employees’ idle time to other businesses and individuals on the network in need of additional human resources to complete tasks"
https://podone.io/

"We are building a decentralized Global Payroll Portal that allows companies to exchange private encrypted secured data with international payroll vendors using the Blockchain."
changing sql database to a blockchain solves what in this case?
https://horuspay.io/

"Smart clothing for sports, virtual reality and medicine with kinetic and bio data decentralized on the blockchain"
https://dstadia.com/

"The Decentralized Open Source Tech Education Platform that helps aspiring and seasoned Software Developers grow their skill set and track their growth through tokenized peer challenges. Developers are in charge of their own learning journey and decide what's best for the community. Rather than a classroom setting, learn on an ongoing basis to keep your knowledge growing. Earn tokens through challenges."
https://carmel.io/
it's kind of cute though, the website is like something straight from the dot-com boom

"Angelwings.io will be a decentralized autonomous community that provides the platform to make donations to recipients all around the world."
https://angelwings.io/
why is a 'dapp' needed for transferring crypto?

"Karma is a dapp that awards tokens for helping people through positive actions. Users also earn tokens by validating good deeds. Share tokens with those you feel deserve it for doing good in the world and promote a world of giving."
https://www.karmaapp.io/
reddit for real life and on blockchain.

I didn't look at all airdrops, but several others are clones of steem and openbazaar

>>10809476
kek

>>10808557
>don't report on taxes

This is the kind of shit that leads to massive inflation that makes BTC worthless, enjoy retard

>>10809050
400 link. not gonna make it buddy

>BTC
Be your own bank. Still, after 9yrs, a revolutionary concept. Careful incremental change is slowly bringing this to fruition.
>ETH
Smart contracts. The surface potential has barely been scratched. Among all the scam ICOs are one or two projects with a good idea and too much money to be stopped.
>EOS
Decentralized Facebook, Crowdfunding and Reddit. Nah M9. These have been done.

>>10810099
kekd and checked

>>10810966
Cool MSNBC script slave

>>10806651
They censored him but he actually said SHOTcoin because its going for a MOONSHOT EOM

>>10811114
ok fuck you. I googled that and I still don't know what it means.

Lets make a list ill start:
Link
Iotx
Oxbtc

>>10809204
>he thinks the IRS stops working because of politics