/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10244789
erowid.org
>business and finance
You sound young anon, go educate yourself on erowid first.

>>10244789
The fuck is this meme
Ate one of those it absolutely dindu nuffin

Fascinating to use. I don't recommend more than 2 grams your first time, and never more than 3.5 at once. Only ever use once every three weeks or so because overuse will deplete key chemicals in your brain.

It knocked some things in my subconscious loose and made me more introspective for a while.

>>10244789
It improved my focus but in a difficult to descript way. Read doors of perception by Huxley. All that mystical Mumbojumbo will come crashing down on you hard if you're not ready for it

Tried a few times. Shrooms are evil. I recommend LSD over them any day. That actually changed my life

>>10244789

Its like ccleaner for your brain. Very good for resetting adictions

>live where this is legal
>don't really wanna do it
just don't want bad trips and whatever bad long term consequences

>>10244807
Many people say that shrooms improve their life and improve the way they trade or lead their business. I have educated myself enough to know what they and how they work I just wanted to hear peoples opinion and experiences.

The biggest benefit I got from psys is that they made me more interested in the world. I find it easier to be engaged in topics that used to be boring to me. In that sense it "opened" my mind. They are extremely fascinating substances but beware, they can fuck you up if you abuse them.

>>10244789
watch this podcast with paul stamets on JRE, easily in my top 3 of all JRE podcasts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

most important things are mindset, setting, and the people around you but if you take a light dose it's not as important. I've taken 3 gram doses 5 times now and they have all been spectacular and eye opening. I also recently started microdosing .1-.2 grams 5 days of the week based on the podcast and there are slight benefits but nothing absolutely life-changing.

>>10244841

Eww, no. LSD is okay, but it has a synthetic edge to it. It feels like your thoughts are touched by machinery rather than organic.

>>10244856
Bad trips don't really happen as long as you're careful. As long as you're in a good mood and environment you should be fine. Also, start with a low dose and see how that works out for you before doing a normal one.

>>10244789
Took 1/8th right before graduating college. Completely changed my life. I was a 24/7 addicted gamer, FPS's were the only thing my life revolved around. After tripping I felt so connected to the people and world around me that I didn't give a fuck about vidya anymore. Still kicked of that shitty addiction, and doing well in life, years later. feelsgoodman.

Tried shrooms and it fucked me up for years. Am *almost* back to normal now

>>10244923
wow cool

i've got a shroom kit but haven't bothered growing any yet.

>>10244927
How did it fuck you up? Did you take too much? Did you have any big depressing experiences that happened to you before you took them?

i did 6 tabs of acid this past week. psychedelics are very overrated but acid can be fun.

Changes your perception and priorities (usually in a good/fun way) for a while, then sets you back down where you started. It's up to you to decide if what you experienced was valuable, and to integrate the thoughts and experiences you had on it into your daily life and make changes based on them, if you feel so inclined. Shrooms or any /psy/ DEFINITELY won't magically fix what's wrong with you or make change any easier than it used to be. You still have to put in the effort. But they might help you find the reason you need to bother putting in the effort in the first place.

>>10244789
>Wondering if anybody here has tried them?
Yup.
>How much did you take?
An ounce each time.
>Did it make you more successful in life?
wat. No.
>Did it change the way you look and view the world?
Not really.
>Did the shrooms improve your focus?
They're a psychedelic man, they give you a hallucinogenic trip and then you're done.

>>10244819
"overdose" "deplete key chemicals" you really are fucking retarded

shrooms are nice but they are not business and finance

sage

>>10244996
FUCK FORGOT TO SAGE AND BUMPED IT INSTEAD AAAAAAAAA

>>10244977
you are larping pretty hard there on something you know nothing about

>>10245008
hes just low IQ and the shrooms had little effect

>>10244959
I have similar experience. Lets just say that being in the psychedelic hell with constant panic attacks many hours alone does no good for you. That shit can happen even among experienced users.

I think recreational use of psychs is way to overhyped and most people just go along with their false insights they got. Who cares about critical thinking when you "understand" the whole universe but high school math and physics are way over your head.

Successful people take psychedelics but psychedelics do not make anyone successful.

>>10244789
Take with your morning coffee, on an empty stomach. Go innawoods if possible.

>>10244959
Not the same anon but depersonalization and feeling like reality is a dreamlike state are common symptoms of psychedelic use that can last a long time.

>>10244927
Elaborate? Psychotic break? Schizophrenia?

>>10244991

I said overuse, not overdose. The fact that you don't understand that neurotransmitters are used up when you take psychadelics and that it takes a while for your brain to build them back up to regular levels is pretty fucking telling.

In short you're too ignorant to know that you're stupid, and to stupid to know that you're ignorant.

>>10244789
Surprised there’s this many conflicting opinions on shrooms. Done them bout a dozen times, always around 2-3g each dose. Every single time I’ve ended outside for the majority of the trip taking walks and being more in touch the world around me. I’ve always gotten a melancholy vibe when on them and felt more able to see through all the bullshit were constantly being fed on a daily basis by “Society”. In the end I think it helped permanently fix my issues with comparing my life to others and caring about the differences but it’s gonna be up to you what you take from the experiences.

Acid is a good time too but I’m with the one anon, feels much less organic and natural and more constructed. Never had any bad trips but I’ve gotten closer to it on acid than shrooms.

>>10244789
Done it a number of times. I'd say it's absolutely worth trying. My advice:

>be outside in a calm, relaxing place.
>block out 4-6 hours for said trip.
>put your keys, phone, wallet, etc. in a safe place that you won't forget.
>have gum handy. Shroom burps are beyond fucking disgusting.
>remember, the trip is temporary and if you have a bad trip, it's going to be over eventually. So don't get freaked out, it'll be okay.

Without trying to sound like a faggot, shroom trips are a very spiritual experience. Not in religious way, but it allows you to expand your mind and it makes you check your ego. In past trips, it forced me to address issues with myself and shortcomings in my life that I needed to address and it's helped me become a lot more structured and ambitious. Each trip is has been different, but every time I've walked away with a new outlook on whatever particular topic that I was focused on.

>>10245155
the melancholy and fear of death is what keeps me doing shrooms, its like a new religion

>>10244789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePiLba32e0U

>>10244991
You know it helps to know wtf you're talking about when you're being an asshole about it, right?

>>10245159
OP listen to this person if you decide to do this.

>>10245008
>you are larping pretty hard there on something you know nothing about
>implying
Have had them three separate times. I'm no expert but I have no idea what gave you that impression.
>>10245017
Each trip lasted a few hours, faget.

>>10244819
I'm doing 4g next time, suck on that faggot.

>>10245040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrYvH71tqrE

>>10244789
Titties

>>10245172
Eh never came close to fear of death but I came to terms with that long before taking shrooms. Things that are out of your control should not be on your mind so much. The melancholy vibe may sound bad at first but because I was tripping i questioned why I felt that way so much and lead to some of the self discovery shit people always go on about. I think your personal mental acuity has a lot more to do with how you will respond to psychedelics than other drug types. It’s your brain and unless you took an irresponsible amount you will remain in control as long as you want to. I have friends who take half the dosage I do and I see them fade into another world mentally while I’m sitting their watching nature documentaries losing my mind over silly shit.

>>10245017
Confirmed. I'm also low IQ and shrooms had no long term effect on me either.

>>10245284

Why would you buy an extra .5?

I've done shrooms before. 1 gram is enough to still function like a normal human. 2 grams is where it starts to get fun. Be careful over 2 grams if you're new. Things start to get weird and patterns get all weird. It's like your senses are all heightened. Nothing degenerate about it at all. Just don't do them often. Do something relaxing while you do it. And preferably in a quiet place with only some friends around. Make sure they know you are eating mushrooms.

>>10244789
>Did it make you more successful in life
mushrooms wont make you successful, you still have to put in work. at most, they will change your perspective for as long as you're high on them, and this perspective will fade away after a couple of weeks and you will be back to how you are right now.

>>10244977
You either have never done psys, or were to big of a pussy to take a hero dose and learn about yourself.

>>10245159
Great advice. I also think that being in nature is very important. Myself and people I know have tried it at home/in a city... it’s got a thing, but there’s no place as rewarding as being in the wilderness, wandering through a forest away from people. You want to explore and you don’t want to be inhibited by social expectations. Some people are worried that you’ll get yourself lost but you actually become hyper aware of your environment and won’t get lost, I’ve found. It’s important to get back to your roots, you’re a monkey, and it’s still there under the sedentary higher thinking bullshit

Took an eighth of shrooms my first time 3 years ago now and went on a hike with a couple friends. One of the best and most memorable experiences of my whole life. Found a new appreciation for life and the things/people around me. It wasn't a TRIP trip, but it was a pleasant experience. My depression went away for a few weeks/months after that. Fucking wonder drug I tell you what.

I took liquid psilocybin last week for my second time (the guy I got it from literally extracts it from the shrooms so it's in concentrate form and you don't have to actually eat the mushrooms and get nauseous). I took what was supposed to be the equivalent of 2g of dried shrooms. I had a much stronger trip than my first one, got super introspective, things were molding together, lights looked incredible; was a legit, real trip. Thankfully, I went through something similar on LSD so I was aware of what was going on while it was happening. My depression has been gone again since I took them last Thursday. I can laugh and joke around again.

Miracle drug, but can definitely take you to a bad place if you don't treat it with the respect it deserves. I think everyone should try it once, but don't do too much of it on your first time.

>>10244789
Definitely changed my view on life and the world.
>humans complicate things to much, the reality is simple but humans aren't and thus can't view things in their inherent simplicity
>Time is the biggest illusion, it does not exist, its conditioned, there are cycles but hours/minutes etc are just a perception

>>10245336
>Be careful over 2 grams if you're new.
I took 5 grams my first time. I thought I was an imposter of myself and started rocking back and forth in the fetal position like a madman while doing a Freudian psychoanalysis of myself at the top of my lungs to try and prove I understood who I was enough to show I was really myself. The guys I was with said nothing but I'm pretty sure I said some really perverse shit.
I prefer LSD personally.

>>10245296
This me and a friend took same dose, he was completely unresponsive and just blank faced n I was just fine

>>10245287
wrong. I'm an idiot and I had a great time on shrooms.

>>10245367
>You either have never done psys
Have had both LSD and shrooms. Much prefer LSD.
>or were to big of a pussy to take a hero dose and learn about yourself
You'd need to be a complete brainlet for something like psychedelic mushrooms to be a life-changing experience.

>>10245396
Lol I can’t figure out if I envy my friends like that or if I got the better end of the deal. My one friend has for hours just been zoned out on the floor rolling around and shit. Meanwhile I’m stuck in the real world watching. The first few times I thought I was playing mother hen with my friends which kept me from breaking through to a visual trip but now I just think it’s impossible for me unless I take maybe a quarter worth.

>>10244901
They're both natural. Shrooms just have evil vibe whereas LSD is just pure

anyone here ever done DMT? now thats the real shit.

>>10245500
There are so many differences in biochemical individuality that the variance in tolerance of pretty much every substance is enormous. Which makes the correct dosages on medications such as SSRIs a guessing game. I suspect this is an overlooked part in why different people respond to different antidepressants so much.

>>10244789
Shrooms are fun. I came out of my first trip with a better sense of who I was. Acid is loud. I came out of my first trip blackpilled.

Interesting experience. I used to sperg out if people touched me or even patted me on the shoulder. After taking shrooms, no more

>>10245556
No such luck, have wanted to try it for a long time. That and Peyote.

>>10244789
I don't wanna turn into a Joe Rogan

>>10245586
Im actually planning on going to iquitos in peru. they have dmt and ayahuasca lodges there.

>>10244789
I used to pick them when I was a teenager. I would take 30 - 60 caps at a time. They were alright. They made things go wavey. They also made my throat feel like I had eaten a maggoty sock. I used to drink them in a tea at college when I didn't fancy eating them, it made me laugh a lot. There were no positive effects to cognitive ability. If you are going to take them I would suggest brewing some English breakfast tea in a saucepan and add the mushrooms, boil for 10-15min and then strain into a thermos with plenty of milk and sugar.

>>10245586
>Peyote
You mean mescaline right? Taking peyote instead of just the extracted live ingredient causes you to vomit and shit yourself for about an hour. Not that I can find either in Europe.

>>10245645
>You mean mescaline right?
Yes. I don't think I want the authentic experience. Related:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOnnu9Pq-PQ
>Not that I can find either in Europe
Bummer.

Shroom trips can change your life for the better.
Strongly recommend buying DMT from darknet markets and vaping it. There is simply nothing else like it. The hallucinations and feeling of enlightenment are realer than reality itself.
And in 15m you're back in the room. You can barely remember what just happened, like a fleeting dream. But you're convinced it was the most important experience of your life so far. Why can't you describe it? It's just a feeling.
With shrooms you might get something actionable out of the trip.
Would definitely not fuck around with any of this stuff. Not anymore.

>>10245556
I think doing DMT you may find in crystal form or liquid from druggy 420 faggots is not the right way to experience DMT. It really just felt like a mildly strong dissociative when taken from a vape pen.

I would like to do Ayahausca, the kind of experience where you psych up for a week, trip for days, then spend a week detoxing. Fuck faggot 420 bros who think their brain is an eternal reflection of an Alex Grey paintinging because they smoked some fucking DMT crystal, honestly hope all those people get cancer and don't reproduce.

some advice - don't trip around other people who aren't on similar drugs. Drink (alcohol) away the come down. And remember you're in charge of your mind and body - not the drug.

Biggest benefit I ever got from shrooms was growing them and selling them. LSD is way better.

>>10244849
UNDERRATED

>>10246197
>don't trip around other people
fixed

>>10246239
Nice

>>10244901
What’s wrong with that?

Took LSD 9 times, took shrooms 3 times. Both turn your brain "on". You start to see the in between moments that your subconscious is normally glazing over. I call it the "edge". It's like your brain being permanently in the moment and you can't get out. You start to see how your actions are never ending. You see moments where your actions can have direct and lasting outcomes.

I remember distinctly the moment that I became interested in money and finance. I was tripping on LSD and saw some frat kid selling some bud to a stoner. I saw the money transfer from the stoner to the frat kid and in that moment I saw the trade for what it was -- an exchange of power. I realized that the flow of money is the flow of power.

I saw this on a micro level but I was able to understand it on a macro level since that's what tripping allows you to do -- focus on the micro and macro simultaneously in ways you couldn't before.

It's the probably the same reason why you see kids who trip a lot constantly talking about pyramids and the illuminati and shit, because the money flows upward in a pyramid shape.

Going further into the trip I realized that the exchange of power is based on core "addictions" or "habits" that we develop. I coined the term "loops" during the trip because they recur. The most powerful people have no addictions, bad habits, or "dependancies".

Basically tripping allows you to alter your loops in such a way that you can reshape your mind. You start to understand the relationship between mind body and environment a lot better.

Lessons learned while tripping made me stop drinking so much, spared my interest in money, programming, building a social network, and my personal fitness as well as increasing my appreciation for art and music while also helping me forward my own philosophical ideas from the forced introspection.

I'd say it was worth getting arrested over. Especially now that my record has been wiped.

real niggas out here blazzin dmt faggits. you simply can't compete!

>>10246463
nice description anon. how do i get lsd? im in europe. wanna try that shit but have no idea.

>>10244789
Ive done it once.

It was life changing.

I felt like i got to spend the day inside a new person, a new personality.

I felt like it was the personality of someone who was happy. I was optimistic and eager. I was so social.

Sigh. But it was scary and intense

I cant believe the effects wore off after just one night of sleep.

Shrooms and weed are truly from God.

>>10244841
Weirdo. Lsd is manmade chemical drug. Shrooms is gods gift to open your mind.

I bet you like new york disgusting "modern man"

>>10245556
You ever been conscious in a coma? Lol seriously after that 3rd puff you don’t know whether your eyes are opened or closed or if you’re dead or alive.

>>10246287

It's a question of taste. I prefer the organic feel.

>>10244789

>Wondering if anybody here has tried them?
yes, about 6 times
>How much did you take?
varying amounts, couple times were nearly 1/4th, the rest between 2g and 1/8th
>Did it make you more successful in life?
depends on your definition of success
>Did it change the way you look and view the world?
completely and it's lasted for years, i still think about some of those moments nearly every day
>Did the shrooms improve your focus?
you definitely become aware of things you didn't notice before even after the experience, but improving focus? probably not

recommend 10/10

>>10245040
> Lets just say that being in the psychedelic hell with constant panic attacks many hours alone does no good for you.
This happened to me a couple trips ago on a big-ish dose (over 3.5g). Ended up locking myself in a room and pissing all over the floor in the dark lol (had to hide myself tripping balls from certain people in the building and really had to piss). The people I used to do it with never cared about set and setting and they were both horrible at that time. I've never experienced a more primal fear than that night and don't think it would be possible to outside of a psychedelic experience. I usually trip super fucking hard even on low doses or on mdma because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_(psychology) , so having a "bad trip" was horrifying while it was happening, i was dead for SURE mang.

>I think recreational use of psychs is way to overhyped
Recreational use is fucking stupid, this coming from someone who has used for rec every single time.. do it to explore your consciousness and to learn about yourself, to become introspective and nurture empathy and creativity.

>>10246239
Yes and no

I have done shrooms many times. I have learned a lot. My best advice:

1. Treat it with respect. They will kick your ass and your ego. Be prepared.
2. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be afraid of a bad trip. Those can be the best teachers. Let go. It’s all in your mind. If you let go, there’s no bad trip. Stop fighting it.
3. Do it infrequently, like once a year. Use the rest of the time to integrate what you’ve experienced.
4. Yes, it can be life changing. And it can give you a glimpse of what happens after you die.

I went through a phase of using any psychadelic I could get in college for a bit. I find psychonauts to be one of the most obnoxious people online, but I do feel they can be a tool to help you for sure. I was pretty depressed and had suicidal thoughts constantly but after ym first trip i started to recognize all the little things we take for granted and realized how beautiful the world is. This is certainly something you can figure out without taking hallucinogens, but for me this was a kick in my depression's ass. After that I tripped a many more times and tried dmt, but i stopped getting anything out of it. No desire to do any again because now its just routine whenever I do it and not that interesting since i'm now at where i need to be


After my first trip I started taking real steps to improve myself and now i'm pretty happy where i'm at. Not saying this is a guaranteed effect and i dont want to give acid too much credit, but it definitely kickstarted my "new" life and the rest was up to me

>>10244819

>once every 3 weeks

>>10246463
Nice summation. Good represenation of the psychedelic experience. Psychedelics helped me shape my world view senior year in college. It was also the only year I got a 4.0 all year long and I one two of the three largest department scholarships at the end of the year (which I used to move to the city instead of getting my masters).

>>10248397

>burning out my neurotransmitters and I don't even know it

>>10244789
they usually kickstart me out of my depression. need an intense/scary trip to get that.

i had hit rock bottom and took mushrooms. turned my life around immediately after

skip the shrooms, psylocibin is for pussies. start with 5-meo-dmt.

>>10244789
LSD sir much more enjoyable sir great high very nice

>>10244977

This is how I experienced it. I have shroomed several times, it was definitely fun but was not some transcendent experience.

>>10244789
Ok anon listen up. I started doing shrooms with 1/8 an oz and worked my way up to 1/4 the 5th time I did them. Over a couple year time span I did a lot of shrooms, most often just popping a couple of caps and hitting the bars.

Shrooms changed my life in a very positive way, as they are a wonderful mind altering drug and absolutely expand your brains potential for seeing the world in a different light. I'm pretty sure it also kind of fucked up my memory and some other brain functions which leave me a little more jumbled feeling sometimes whereas I used to be an incredibly focused individual. The memory thing has affected me negatively in a very minor way, the other stuff is easy to deal with if you are just an otherwise organized person and create some systems for yourself.

Overall, very positive and I recommend mushrooms to everyone.

That being said, you need to do them in THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT, or you will have a bad or weird trip. In all my time I also watched a lot of people try shrooms for their first time. People I did not really care about and so let them do their own thing and have a non-guided and non-comforted experience. Often these ended pretty bad.

I recommend finding a good friend or two who have done it before and taking 1/8 oz. with them and just hanging out in a room together, chatting and laughing.

I recommend smoking a little bit of weed on your way up and your way down as that eases the transitions considerably.

I recommend chill music.

I recommend having cigarettes or a hookah even if you don't usually smoke.

Good luck.

>>10244901
>erowid.org
you're either retarded or have never tried lsd. LSD is just an improved version of shrooms, if you have access to good lsd there's no use for shrooms

>>10246497
darknetmarkets i guess. i think they've taken down a few marketplaces and even the subreddit for it so it may be a little trickier than it used to be. perhaps start at /r/darknetmarketnoobs?

Shrooms will show you da wei....... *leans in*....Seriously.

>>10249391
thats a little closed minded. everybody has their preferences anon.

>>10244968
mice sum up anon......i couldnt agree more

please go back to /b there is nothing for you here.

>>10244789
have fun meeting the devil

bumping to write my bad trip story later. i did a fuckton of these as a kid. overall experience was incredible but should know what you in for

>>10245287
he lives on
fucking love that guy.....all that he has ever said was complete speculation and storytelling and most of the things he talked about he didnt belive himself.......but they way he generated it is incredible....a true intellectual

>>10249366
and this is very good advice. attitude and setting are critical for a good trip unless you are some rollin hippie degenerate

how to acquire this if i know nobody

mungus dot ca boys

thank me in another life

>>10249582
dark net

>>10249433
yeah use that subreddit, pretty good source of info

>leafs only

Psychedelics (5HT2a agonists) should be the only psychoactive you consume

>>10249391

If you had used a lot of both you would know that you can definitely feel the difference.

Shrooms and lsd are fucking insane drugs I've only done shrooms like thrice and lsd once but fuck that it's way to intense especially if you are already somewhat redpilled before

I took shrooms and told the hippy retards I was with about the jews and muslims

They kicked me out while I was still half blasted and I would up at a Denny's, ate a giant stack of pancakes, then fell asleep in the booth

they called the cops on me but I left before they arrived

https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/4os5ux/magic_mushroom_experience_based_on_different/

>20 grams

Not many people have reached this dose. It’s so psychologically and physiologically dangerous, that if you even have the slightest doubt about it, you should not take it until you are ready. Your visuals will be so strong that you will no longer be able see your own hand in front of your face. Your thoughts will be indescribable, and you will see everything. Your “third eye” will be wide open. You will meet beings and see architecture and patterns that appear to be made out of light and energy. This trip is much like a DMT breakthrough trip, as mushrooms are also a tryptamine hallucinogen. You will have no motor function, and may forget to do basic tasks such as breathe, which can cause you to pass out. You will no longer experience reality, as your vision will be completely covered in visuals so strongly that you can no longer see your hand in front of your face, and you will no longer hear anything but pure auditory hallucinations. You are transported to an entire new universe, and become a completely different being. Those who take this dose, usually never go back. If you’re the type of person who trips hard on 3.5g, then you should never think of attempting this dose.

>>10244977
>They're a psychedelic man, they give you a hallucinogenic trip and then you're done.

aside from the usual casualties that keep taking them regularly and wind up psychotic

4chan needs a drugs board.. i would frequent

>>10245645
You’re on biz, probably into crypto, and can’t figure out the darknet? Lmao

What's your favorite of his talks?

Be my buddy:
-went shroom picking with seasoned 'expert'
-took shrooms that night
-got violently ill
-ended up in IC
-liver failure

>>10250017
... and...?

>>10250017
one time we went and picked some and this dude came over that night to trip with us, once he came up he freaked out about taking the wrong ones and couldn't stop looking at his arms thinking they were swollen so he went to the hospital and it turned out he was just tripping

it's real hard to get the wrong ones here cause they either bruise blue or they're no good

>>10244896
microdosing is a meme, my man. the receptors that psilocybin attaches to are quickly "worn out" (they run out of synaptic vesicles) and it basically does nothing, you just piss it out. thats also the reason why you get short term "immunity" to psilocybin: if you take 3g on monday, you'll need 5g on tuesday to reach the same state, 10g on wednesday, and youll be basically immune to any effects on thursday.

>>10250017
buy them from a dealer like a normal person lmao

>>10249518
is that pic what people look like on shrooms?

>>10249366
The cigarettes are huge, i found that smoking one marlboro a while after the peak made me get a little higher again

>>10244789
First time I tried them (2g home grown) I experienced an ego death, which was not a pleasant experience. Lost fear of death, only cared about spreading positivity, not only had I no problem listening to people, I was actually able to empathise whenever someone went on about his/her problems. My thoughts were clearer than ever before and in the following 6 months I was promoted 2 times.

After that period I started feeling gradually worse as my ego started to return. Instead of meditating and dealing with my inner problems I tried drinking and smoking them away.

This is not uncommon, btw. They gave high dosis of psilocybin to clinically depressed people. After that experience they felt full of life and a lot of the patients lost their addictions (including cigarettes). After 6 months, a huge portion relapsed.

>>10245045
Bad idea. The caffeine fucks with it. You feel like you're on meth. Not relaxing as you want it to be

>>10249828
nice experience

>>10251548
>After 6 months, a huge portion relapsed.
shit for real? I guess you have to keep taking them every 6 months. what about ayahuasca? I heard that changes you for years to come.

>>10246463
this description really resonated with me, good luck anon

>>10252300

The thing with psychedelics is that they are a nice tool for you to use. But if you are expecting something spectacular you will only end up searching that something bigger and thats when you will get fucked up.

>>10249828
Lol lies. You can't eat shit while you're tripping on shrooms. Also the last place you'd want to go would be a Dennys.

>>10244789
I've tried both large doses and microdoses combined with exercise. Never had life-altering experiences on the large ones, some interesting daydreams but no more so than pot.
Now microdosing my sports drink before MMA class was interesting. I do think it ups IQ more than both things alone, but I am looking for a better class and a new supply so I haven't done it in a while.

One thing to be aware of, microdosing ups your sleep requirement by quite a bit, so be aware of that.

>>10244789
I took 4g and was disappointed. I dont do drugs but was interested in a hallucinogenic experience. However all that happened was colour vividness, sound distortion and adhd. Oh and i sweat buckets.

>>10244819
I did 4g my very first time and was grossly underwhelmed.

>>10244789
Shrooms helped me a lot when I was getting depressed in my early 20's. I would do 40 - 50g fresh in a tea and a handful of pins on the side. Needless to say the experience was incredibly intense. Some experiences helped unlock bad childhood memories, it almost felt like I was with a therapist as I was forced to face things that I didn't even remember up to that point. It was never a bad experience though, more therapeutic.

Also had some interesting insights into world events, however these insights were probably more delusion than anything realistic.

If anyone is suffering from depression, do the research and try carefully experimenting with shrooms! The chemical structure of psilocybin is almost identical to serotonin, thus for me personally, the after-effects of tripping is what I needed most. It gave me a window of 2-3 months were I got no depression or negative thoughts whatsoever. I tripped 2-3 times a year at most and it certainly was a positive experience in my life.

>>10251598
>You feel like you're on meth.
Thanks, man. I'll give it a shot.

>>10244819
/thread

>>10245556
I've "supervised" the extraction of DMT several times before. It's very fun alchemy. And as any extractor should do, they must try the yield.

But oh boy, my mind subconsciously fights the breakthrough. I begin hearing the intense ringing/humming, amazing fractal visuals all over the room; they look more organic than LSD, quite obviously feels like a tryptamine...

But you feel you soul start getting sucked into the heavens, right as you breakthrough; but my brain always fought it. So I lost interest, or never had any real intent to breakthrough begin with.

>>10244789
I gradually increased the dosage each trip until I reached 4g. That trip I nearly killed myself (and I would if I knew how to walk and do basic things) and experienced a lot of stuff that comes with various mystical experiences like near death experiences. It was the most terrifying and important experience of my life that triggered a nearly year-long existential crisis.
Overall, I became much more cheerful, optimistic and calm, stopped caring about a lot of bullshit, got rid of a lot of anxieties. And I don't fear death anymore.
Do I regret it? No. Would I do it second time? No.

>>10249760
I didn't think about this. When I was last heavy into psychedelics, I was like 16-18... it's been years. and i've become much more redpilled on many issues

this may impact future LSD / mushroom trips if i ever attempt them again

>>10245076
>neurotransmitters are used up when you take psychadelics
Completely wrong. You should stop spreading your lack of knowledge on the internet. The psilocybin in shrooms is structurally similar to serotonin, thus attaching itself to the serotonin receptors. The high level of psilocybin getting attached to serotonin receptors is what is assumed to cause the psychedelics effect. One of the risk of overuse is that the receptors could become "used" to a high level of excitation, thus needing more serotonin (or psilocybin) to produce the same effect. However, nothing shows that serotonin receptors get "accustomed" to this high neurotransmitter level.

I've shroomed like 8 times and only had one bad trip when I was in the woods at night, camping with some guy who was a drain and irritated the shit out of me with constant negative energy. It's been years since I last did them, but I unironically want to do them again soon. Highly recommend it.

>>10251548
>After 6 months, a huge portion relapsed.

Its as other Anon have said. Psychedelics open your mind and bring a balance between yourself and the meta world that is very hard to achieve otherwise. They open your mind to your true feelings more, and help cut out all the shoddy nationalities that we use to justify actions and beliefs one does not truly believe in, but convinces themselves of, often as a coping mechanism or way to hide from the truth. Psychedelics only open the door, though. Once that door has been opened, it's up to the individual to take what they learned from psychedelic experiences and apply it to their daily, regular lives. If they don't they will likely relapse to old habits again.

>>10253355
*rationalities

>>10249962
This so much.

>>10244849
This

>>10244789
for improved focus.
under 0.5 grams dried.

1.5 grams dried.for meditation,fight inner demons for better quality life.

3.5 grams. have visions son. learn about god.

7 grams. welcome to the matrix of cosiousness, all objects are sentient intelligent beings and there is no reality. your soul is testicles and your getting squeezed into lemonade and drunk and pissed all at the same time.

>>10249962
>>10253498
I probably shouldn't mention it here, but check out 420chan. It's mostly oldfags on there now and the community is still really good and closer to the old days of 4chan, so please don't come and fuck it up by posting a lot of masturbatory /pol/ and whatnot. HIFFWE.

>>10244789
if u have over 120 IQ shrooms will not affect you because u already understand what is about to happen and the "god" feeling epople get is just either impending doom, loss of ego etc which can be achieved by just dreaming normally or meditating while tired etc. 2000s kids doing shrooms thinking they are smart lmao ur just firing neurons while firing other neurons that should not combine etc.

>>10252966

Mate, when psilocybin attaches to the brain it isn't the only chemical being used, iirc it's the agonist kicking off an entire chain reaction of biochemistry. Christ on a stick, you people...

>>10244807
My man

>>10244819
The first time I woke up and ate 7g and thought it was 3.5g at the time but remembered i bought 7 for a special occasion

>>10245045
Id highly advise the second part when it comes to psychedelics an empty stomach is the way to go unless you are an absolute DUDE WEED LMAO gangweeder who has to have munchies 24/7

>listens to stoned ape theory once

>>10254052
This really. I have philosophy and medicine degrees and have read myself sick on phenomenology, existentialism, metaphysics, theology etc. When i took shrooms the whole thing felt like an utter waste of time. I was deeply aware of what it was doing in my brain. Really no unique insight can be gained by the brain malfunctioning that can't be better gained with a sober mind. Our brains are designed to be working optimally normally, the drugs don't unlock some third eye.

Im now convinced psychadelics just offer pretend profundity to minds too lazy or dim to do actual work.

> in b4 you didn't take enough!
I took 3.5g.

How can a friendless miserable bastard like me go about obtaining some shrooms?

>>10254210
it's so probable though

>>10245287
Dumb druggies will think they are smart if they are interested in drugs lol

>>10254374
just grow them on your own...go google the "pf tek" - its pretty easy....you can get the spores basically for free from the "free spore ring europe" ...you can do all of that for like 25€ and get tons of shrooms that you can than give to your friends...

>>10254312
every trip is different, and 3.5g will rarely give any profound trip to people who know what's going on. try doing 5g and get back to us

>>10254411
Id say it is a fairly convincing argument when "that our ancestral primates consumed small doses of psilocybin" the part that seems to be flawed isn't the idea it is his supporting details they are too scattered and sometimes completely irrelevant to the claim
Specifically when he talks about the primitive hierarchy

I did a long time ago. Made my stomach hurt like crazy and I started seeing faces in the trees then I let out a massive brap that smelled like pure decay.
Not that great really. Never did lsd because everyone I know that did turned into a massive pussy.

>>10254481
yeah hurts my stomach too. the chitin is to blame for that. try a shroom tea with little bit of ginger if you ever want to try again, that will alleviate the stomach problems

>>10254462
Im actually doing that this weekend and I've bought a small amount of ketamine as I've heard it potentiates a trip. I want to see what it's like to be blasted off into a dream world.

One issue i have is that although the shrooms didn't do much they did make me adhd and really what i want is to hallucinate with a sober mind. So even if 5g with ketamine does the trick i imagine i won't have a sober mind to observe it.

>>10244789
Yeah, they really helped me understand a book I was reading.

>>10244789
>Did the shrooms improve your focus?

Don't operate machinery, bro.

>>10253783
/pol/ is old 4chan you newfag

>>10254312
Yeah, but you seem like a douche

>>10255278
B8

>>10254481
>then I let out a massive brap that smelled like pure decay

>his third eye was completely open and yet he still missed the divine braver insight
Never gonna make it anon

>>10255292
Truth
It's since been overrun but just ask around, most pollsters are boomers

>>10255289
Everyone sounds like a douche to the moronic 'third eye pineal gland' hippies. I have nothing against those who want to do it for fun, just those who get it so wrong and take their thought loops to be universal secrets.

>>10244789
Schizotomimetics interest you OP? You want to experience a psychotic break that was rebranded by the CIA into a spiritual experience?

>>10255359
Bad karma, maaan

>>10255369
How else could i see the goblin niggers in my garden?

>>10244789
Is there anything as disappointing as sex on mushrooms? A fleeting moment where you're into it, then flaccid and disinterested, then back into but can't finish, then disinterested and eventually just stop.

>>10254052
Thats not entirely true. It wont affect you much on a philosophical level but it definitly helped me with my depression and anxiety.

Please leave your cuckpost after the beep. *Beep*:

I like mushrooms better than lsd. Haven't gone beyond the 3g mark, but it's impacted my life positively. The ego death is a valuable experience if you are intelligent, it helps you examine the world from a fresh new perspective. Just make sure you do it alone in darkness.

If you are looking for a quicker first experience, brew the shrooms into tea and take it on an empty stomach. The trip will only last 4-5 hours.

Easy to grow too if it's legal in your jurisdiction. Mycellium creates nature's first intelligent market. The fungus negotiates trade transfer with all sorts of organisms in the forest. It's pretty much nature's DEX.

I don't think the mushrooms are transmitting any intelligent information, I think humans co-evolved with the mushrooms taking advantage of the sometimes-altered state to place additional information and processing modes that are useful but too overwhelming to engage in unless safe. Which is to say, the mind has some real hidden messages along with noise in that state.

>>10255528
You wouldn't be the first to think so...

>>10255520
I dont think you understand shit about psychedelics. I was natsoc before taking shrooms and while i was on shroom it made even more sense to me that natsoc is the best way for european societies. Strength from within and family. Keeping your body and family ties strong are 2 of the most important things in life . Far from cucked

>>10244789
I took about an eight and a half in one giant bite. I was not ready. I took them with a bunch of friends at some house and it knocked me on my ass so fucking hard. Pretty sure I was never the same after. If you have any sort of history of anxiety/depression or are prone in the slightest to any mental health issues, stay the fuck away from psychedelics in general. If you are going to try it, do it the right way. Potent mushrooms taken in a decent quantity are really intense, and you don't exactly feel great while you are on them. I think doing something shorter acting like DMT might be better, even if that is way more intense than mushrooms could ever hope to be. You're done in 15 minutes.

>>10255618
Sorry cuck I'm not in right now. Why don't you use your third eye to watch Abdullah fuck your daughter

>>10255528
Where do people get shrooms? I wanna educate myself and try getting the myself in the forest but I don't wanna end up dead if I eat the wrong one.

>>10256097
Dream onion

>>10244819
Dried or fresh Dr. Subhuman? The weight is way different

>>10248451
In the same boat. I wouldn't say it makes you smarter but, coincidentally, the only all 4.0 semester was the one involving a trip.

Has anyone broke through on dmt here? I never met anyone irl who did, idk if my dmt was bad but i tried 3 different dark vendors. It definitly felt like dmt but never managed to break thorugh. I feel like ppl like rogan are horseshitting about their break through experiences as well

>>10256555
You need to be a bit more stupid, buy into mysticism and have had so little thought in life that anything out of immediate involvement with banal things blows you away.

will shrooms allow me to talk directly with my subconscious mind?

>>10257514
Your subconscious mind will speak more loudly to your conscious mind, and in ways that will make you more sensitive to listening to it, even when sober you will be more sensitive to understanding your subconscious and will learn to trust it.

>>10244815
that was just shiitake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVfkwxy6aw

I did 3.5 grams my first time I was at Yosemite on my way to Half Dome. Absolutely insane, quite enjoyed it. Another time I did 3.5 just relaxing during summer at a lake shore. Laid down and didnt move for 4 hours. Also extremely enjoyable, though both times I got more than a little anxious during both trips, which was disconcerting but overall I enjoyed it.

>>10257514
(mind)set and setting. google it. If you take shrooms with the intent to reflect and talk to your subconscious mind, something like that will happen. Once you get to 2+ grams, shrooms becomes an incredibly introspective experience where you learn a lot about yourself. At least in my experience.

>>10256555
i took dmt once in 2011. my friend passed out for 15 seconds and had a dream that was so intense that he freaked out and left

my experience was more mild. it felt like compressed air came out of my ears as i was exhaling the hit, the walls changed colors, and i had some kind of weird trippy shorthand with my brother

>>10245159
Yah but I hate being outside and becoming paro that people are looking at me. I've actually been minding my own business once on Acid sitting on a park bench and some utter pricks called the cops on me. Luckily I look like a law-abiding citizen and not a filthy nigger, so they just asked how I'm doing (clearly saw my dilated eyes), and went on their way.

I was so tense and held my breath without knowing it, even the copper looks concerned. Wouldn't go out again. Too many snitches out there.

I learned more about myself from being balls deep inside a 15y/o Thai ladyboy than I did from taking any reasonable dosage of shrooms.

>>10246168
>[DMT] really just felt like a mildly strong dissociative when taken from a vape pen

Oh, what a fucking gem. Don't get me wrong, ayahuasca is the bee's knees, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think properly vaped DMT is the most intense, incomprehensible, profound experience a human being can have. Get a real vaporizing device and not a fucking vape pen and give it another shot.

You don't need to be an alex grey faggot or believe the experience is 'real' to get something out of it, I promise.

>>10244789
Obviously.
Ate 1/4 (tasted like cow shit)
Drank orange juice (enhances trip)
Made $250k

>>10244789
PS - BUY BCH

>>10244789
I've taken up to 5 grams, maybe more because I didn't really weigh them a few times. First time I took an eighth. Always a lasting meaningful experience that has helped me become self aware and really opened my mind. I've even published original research in the field of biosemiotics from insights I had on a trip.

>>10245284

5G or no balls

>>10257724
why have a masochistic attitude towards drugs? I never got why people do this

>>10254312
That's not true. The experience psychedelics invoke extends the possibility of interpretations as new things emerge from all the new connections psychedelics make.
>>10255359
I hate those people as much as anyone. Still they are no reason to ignore the fact that there really is something special about psychedelics. Those kinds of people just have no idea how they are special.

No joke the most insightful drug I've done is nitrous. I have a eureka moment every time I do a whippet. Just a couple days ago I had an insight that devolped into a synthesis of niche ecology with Peirceian/ Uxekullian biosemiotics. Now im working on a "sign construction theory" that I think is a big deal.
On the flip side, all kinds of people will have an experience similar to mine but end up as psued cranks because they aren't skeptical enough to be critical to their intellectual babies.

>>10257724
this but unironically. If you do halucinogens at least do it properly so you'll remember

>>10244789
What would happen if you ate until your stomach is full?

>>10257920
You'd get a really bad stomach ache and probably pass out

>>10257605
You must be a 50kg twink.

>>10257688
link paper pls

>>10257813
>>10257724
same, but I've done 5, it's intense, but your openness to it/mindset is going to have much more influence how you feel about it. Intensity means nothing when 2g and 5g and 10gs all tell you "love more, focus on your happiness, stop chasing bullshit"

>>10257856
You are exactly the rambling idiot he was wary about. Go stare at your alex gray poster some more.

>>10245159
also worth pointing out that although your fight or flight mechanism is certainly heightened during a trip (hence bad trips), you are yourself in every way. You can be as objective as you were before, if not more so. You feel MORE alive, more in charge of your decision making. The problem is people perceive the trip as being real, when it is in fact IN YOUR HEAD. This too shall pass, etc etc. When on a bad trip, just accept it, understand that the cosmic dance takes many forms, that it too shall pass, admire it's movements. 99% of what you see is place holder. It's not the imagery so much as it's dance that's worth observing.

>>10244977
this, anyone who says they have holy revelations and transcend their human form as their ego dies are just gigantic faggots who seek attention

>>10252405
>doesn't have cheese, crackers, fruit and juice ready at every shroom sesh

pathetic

>>10258226
studies say otherwise

>>10246463
>>10248370
>>10248396
>>10253355

Very good posts, very much like my experience.

>>10249760

I think psychedelics redpilled and then also blackpilled me. Is this bad?

>>10254052

This is what happens when you take enough and reach max level. Connect these dots:

1. Psilocybin increases neuronal stem cell creation (neurogenesis) and learned memory extinction https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23727882

2. Activity between nerve cells causes neurotrophic activity, and neurotrophic activity
is critical for nerve cell survival and nerve connection viability

So psilocybin acts as a nerve cell generating agent, with our emotions in the helm, so if you're a low IQ fuckwit with no spineor insight to begin with and don't concentrate on anything of constructive value you're going to end up as a messed up hippie or a junkie driven by hedonism.

LSD lets your spread apart parts of the brain communicate with each other and form new concepts. Ideas. Your mind makes innovations for you. You'll probably get excited by this as was Archimedes when he jumped out of the bath.

By connecting the dots you can see that with mushrooms and LSD you can achieve neuronal hyperplasticity, your brain adapts much faster to the information available in your surroundings compared to your average peer. Pretty cool, huh?

So, in the end you'll have a very well connected brain. If you didn't go insane your concept of the world should be very well defined, and finding new connections between different subject relations needs more and more concentration to be improved, especially once your mind has found out the nature of the rat race we're in which is a killer for motivation. Then you'll have to face the futility of your existence overall, and make the decision of keeping moving on or ending it all. It's a never ending circle, and if we didn't have the gene that prevents suicide I'm certain the biggests geniuses of our history would have killed themselves before making their inventions.

>>10252404
DMT taught me this

>>10245381
you prob know this, but in my experience, /psy/s have great effect on your attitude for about a couple weeks and then before you know it you're back into bad habits. They give us good reasons, but you have to do the work after to keep that state. I put reminders in my phone of a lot of the thoughts I've had, because I can't possibly do shrooms once a month. But I can always remind myself of what I learned.

taking LSD feels like my brain is on steroids with a very powerful artistic component and a general feeling of spiritual connection with the universe. some anon said it is like using ccleaner for your brain and i second that. it's something like induced meditation if you're able to "ride your trip well". it's really fascinating as it opens up free channels of perception, it can strongly enhance your empathy imho. i really love it, even though i had a few really bad, terrifying trips as i had unresolved troubles in my mind but i kept on "searching" and came out as a stronger, clearer and calmer mind than before. i had a phase when i took trips every two weeks which kinda confused me at some point, made me paranoid but it regulates itself in my opinion.
pic related is measured brain activity under an MRT

>>10252888
did you try with a blindfold?

>>10258263
Studies show someone transcended human form? Wow! Which ilovescience url can i find that at?

>>10258274
Anon I really want to try LSD but I was a soldier then started fighting professionally quit after a injury now focusing on powerlifting etc. Not memeing I can be quite dangerous and I am really scared of a bad trip knowing what I am capable of what advice if any do you have for me?

>>10258311
Well maybe not that, but it would appear that most people believe that it was beneficial overall. I understand that doesn't excuse being a space case however.

>>10254312
ironic, this smart guy thinks he's smarter because he didn't know how to enjoy a shroom trip

you're describing rationality and logic in the face of a dancing cosmic minx who just wants you smile

I imagine you don't go to strip clubs for the same reasons?

>>10258329
Weed<MDMA<Shrooms<LSD<DMT

this is not power levels, this is just a good guide to the order in which you should partake in any of these so that your chances of a bad trip go down radically. By the time you get to LSD you will probably be open minded and empathetic enough to confront a nerve-wracking psychedelic and come out Yogi Anon

>>10258427
>smoke weed
>feel dizzy, lungs feel like they are going to explode, vomit
fuck you. Nobody should ever smoke that shit

>>10255528

Refer to my earlier post >>10258265 , but I have a semi-firm belief that we as humans are (as all are all biological entities with a nervous system) are a creature in symbiosis between our muscles & organs and our nervous system. It's like there's a fundamental split between nerve cells and the rest of the thing.

Psilocybin acts as a nerve cell generating agent, and when injuring a mushroom with psilocybin content it turns blue (and this action is associated to be exclusive to mushrooms with psilocybin); the action seems to me to be damage control, wherein psilocybin has a restorative effect on the injury, possibly by stem cell generative effect.

So, in this light my idea doesn't seem too far fetched. Weird, possibly, but interesting.

>>10258329
Im a lifter, 90kg lean. Do boxing, jiu jitsu and muay thai. I was more than in control on shrooms, I think my size actually made it have less impact. That said you know how you act when intoxicated, i can be ass wasted and i dont get angry or start fights.

>>10258455
just vape it then, or eat it, but that's a different can of worms

>>10258329
thank you for your service and sacrifice.
this is my advice

>start with a very low dose (like half a tab of LSD)
>have close friends / family to watch you and protect you
>dont leave out anything you'd be willing to break
>realize emergency services exists if anything extremely bad happens and they will NOT arrest you, they will watch you until it is over
>only take psychedelics if you feel very save in your environment and mindset
>wait a few weeks / months and increase the dose a little bit

>>10258397
I never criticized enjoying it, feel free to go reread my post. My issue is with people acting as if it carries some philosophical significance or truth. Which, if as you say it collapses under logic, is worthless.

>>10258560
DNA was discovered because of LSD

>>10251350
if you close your eyes, yea, you might see stuff like that

feels good man tbqh

>>10249828
omg that sounds like a horrible trip

you're a deranged fucking maniac if you enjoyed that trip lmao

>>10250016
The "Nothings Lasts but Nothing Is Lost" sample from the Shpongle album of the same name

>>10258583
I'm pretty certain neither Watson nor Crick ever used LSD however i would not have an issue with somebody becoming a better person through it or it enabling them to get past some problem they are facing. Taking a step back can of course do that. What i take umbrage with is people believing they see some underlying secret to existence or other dimensions and higher beings. I've written parts of essays drunk before, doesn't mean alcohol explodes my IQ.

>>10258560
>>10258560
I believe the
>philosophical significance or truth
you're talking about is "the meaning of life is to live"

IMO Shrooms help you realise that you're an animal on a rock and you need to stop worrying about shit that doesn't affect you and worry about being happy cuz you have 50 years left to do it

Its possible the spiritualists (besides me, kek) found what makes them happy through psychedelics, and it is in fact as simple as meditating, selling organic juices, and guiding people on DMT trips. The pastoral life can be mocked, but not everyone needs 18yo ass + titties every weekend or to binge at clubs or a new car. Ultimately the same ass and titties for your whole life was enough for millenias of human existence.

This stage of humanity has existed for less time then the toothbrush did preceding it. To assume we know everything, or worse, know better than the people that carried us here through history, is moronic, and to insult those who would pursue a lifestyle similar to theirs, I think is ignorant.

>>10258665
actually, disregard that, decided to look it up after I posted(derp) and yeah it looks like an urban legend. This (((reddit))) thread pointed me to another guy who claimed LSD helped him with some genetic concept though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis

>>10258683
'The meaning of life is to live' is a totally empty statement. If you want real thought on it read Aquinas, Sartre, Heidegger, Kierkegaard, Niezstche. All you will get from psychedelics is the part of your brain that registers significance firing off left right and centre as the pattern recognition pathways go haywire. So suddenly grass looks like a fractal grid and you believe you've seen some great connection. But it's meaningless, it has no insight and does not stand up to logic, it's a delusion in the most true sense of the word.

Absolutely go do it and have fun, use it to reflect on yourself and your relation to the world. However it isn't telling you a thing about the reality of the world beyond some perspective on qualia.

>>10258731
>However it isn't telling you a thing about the reality of the world beyond some perspective on qualia.
prove it

>>10258731
Are you saying there is a meaning to life?

I've tripped multiple times on shrooms and lsd, but I had both my best and worst shroom trip last year at a music festival. I took shrooms and MDMA together and had intense visuals along with that feeling of euphoric unity with my friends and other people in the crowd. I literally wanted to fuck the shit out of every female in my group during Illenium's set. But then I felt like absolute shit at the end of the night when everything wore off. Like ashamed of the way I look/behave and everything I've ever accomplished. I've had occasional suicidal thoughts since then.

>>10251350
nah
for me I could feel the presence of people without seeing them. You can always do this but it was the primary mode of perception for me at the time. for example, if someone was behind me, I could innately sense them in and in my mind the size of them was related to how much they were dominating the social interactions at the moment. So if someone was rocking back and forth making a lot of noise, I didnt 'feel' them as much as two people having a conversation nearby. and the person leading the conversation had a larger presence in my mind than the other participants.

I think psychedelics reveal how your subconscious thinks. so in my case I was able to see how much simple social interactions matter to my perception. and how some people lead and dominate the social interactions much more than others.
Im sort of an autist so this was really new to me.

>>10258803
sounds like you need to make a change or come to terms with who you are/want to be. If you feel ashamed for wanting to fuck your friends, then maybe you learned you actually value them as more than things to be fucked?

personally, with my increased used in psychedelics, my hedonism has gone way down. I generally refuse to go out for any binge, any club, don't drink more than 3 beers. I actually don't remember the last time I bought a beer at a bar (the next time will be this Sunday). My friends actually have to talk me into going to these things, and generally it's guilt and with drugs. But when I go, I go with good intentions, and dress like an 80s drug lord because I believe I am the party not at the party.

MDMA lessons yahoo

>>10258489
Thanks anon the thought of losing control and really hurting a loved one is what freaks me out. I am around your size too so I guess it would help.

>>10258530
Thanks Anon I appreciate.

I did shrooms and acid when I was like 16 or 17 years old, and I had a wonderful time. I felt many of the "revelations" that the other anons have described, and I don't think I can put into words better than them.

At the time, I was happy-go-lucky, really into music and art and philosophy and all that gay shit. I would later go on to major in music, and then drop out.

I didn't have the interest for programming or finance that I do now. But now, roughly 10 years later, I think if I tripped these days, I would have a horrible trip. I would realize how selfish of an asshole I've become. I really hate people, I think I'm an edgy piece of shit, all I care about is machines and numbers and cash flow, I really can't stand normies and basic stacies, I feel like a modern day Daniel Plainview or some shit like that...

I'd like to drop once again, maybe it would make me nice again, or more likely it would make me realize what a petty fucking narcissist I'm becoming.

Salvia, on the other hand, is really dope, even if you have demons or whatever. The way it feels, like, your whole sensory input just got disassembled and laid out in front of you, and you don't know what to make of it, because you're too dumb to put it back together because well, your sensory input just got pulled apart... wow! Craziest 15 minutes of my life! And that hour or so afterward, where you're left thinking...wow! But it's hard to get where I live now.

But acid or shrooms, you have to be strong, but you also have to be positive-minded.. I should cheer the fuck up, or whatever, then maybe I can do that also.. sorry for the long rant, I find psychedelics interesting I guess

>>10259054
trust yourself and do it again faggot

>>10258683
>>10258731

I actually remember feeling a kind of sense of urgency, like, there's chaos, but don't worry! There's also good! Godspeed, do good!

Or something like that I don't know.. the next day, you vaguely remember, you try to put a finger on it, but it's so hard to capture, and you just continue the daily routine...

>>10259085
I got no plug these days where I stay at :(

This is a good thread.

>>10259054
read more books

anyone else like to /faponpsys/? They make porn look amazing and the serotonin receptor agonism makes it impossible to cum. If you have a hard time getting it up just take some viagra ahead of time. I like to take pharmahuasca and ride my favorite onahole all night long, no matter how hard I go I'll never come. Just riding the pleasure vibes forever.

Just do it... honestly, the experience will be exactly what you need. My most profound experience was the most difficult to bare, but honestly, I came out of it a new man. The things that really put me in a bad place during the trip I had to face them. I wasn't comfortable with who I was, and this mushroom trip helped me to break the pattern and actually work on myself. We fall trap to all kinds of bad habits in our daily lives, ESPECIALLY in our thoughts. Out with the negative thoughts and in with the positive.

Good luck anon. :) To new beginnings.

>>10255415

not everyone has the libido of a sidewalk

but sex on acid is a million times better

>>10256482
dried my dude.... it's a 10:1 raio wet:dry so 35g wet = 3.5g (eighth) dry

>>10245474
>You'd need to be a complete brainlet for something like psychedelic mushrooms to be a life-changing experience.
to pussy to heroic dose confirmed, lol

>>10246463
>I'd say it was worth getting arrested over. Especially now that my record has been wiped.
what happened anon?
get popped selling?

>>10245474
Go deep pussyman

>>10258583
No, but PCR to replicate the genetic code was partially due to Kary Mullis dropping LSD.

>>10258806
very insightful, thanks for pointing that out

>>10244789
Only managed to get my hands on them once and being a first timer I took a small dose. It really changed my perspective, but only temporary. Started seeing colorful flowers of light, things melting, my narrow hallway seemed wide like a plane track stuff like that. I didn't have any life changing visions out of body experiences or stuff like that. Also talked to three other people who were with me from time to time, but I was mostly introverted. Also smoked weed and drank vodka so maybe this had some effect too.

>>10257647
unequivocally based

>>10259131
dream market

>>10246463
>The most powerful people have no addictions, bad habits, or "dependancies".
lol "the most powerful people" are pathologically addicted to money, power, status, winning, etc. We just live in a society where megalomaniacal sociopaths get to control the flow of information, so we all pretend that money and power aren't completely debilitating addictions for many people.

>the same brainlets who've invest their entire life savings into digital monopoly money based on the funny memes on a Chinese cartoons website are also humongous dopeheads

I really should not be surprised.

>>10248782
my dude

>>10252966
I would think that it acts similarly to cocaine -- blocking the reuptake of whatever stack of neurotransmitters that are released from the presynaptic vesicles.

>>10245287
I have extremely IQ and I won't ever do shrooms because I think it will actually fuck me up, my family has several cases of addiction and psquiatrich illness, ain't touching that shit nigga even though I'm interested on the spiritual part.

I want to do shrooms now to cure depression/anxiety but I take antidepressants for it and there’s not much research on what shrooms will do. I’m a loser and a dropout.

>>10244789

ate them several times

They give fascinating angle to view reality but thats about it.

>>10258265
So, this is something I've noticed. After my hero dose last year I have become addicted to just learning things. The more things I am learning, I can see the intimate relationships between certain fields of study. Whats more is I now find details in media that I may have missed before because I wasn't observing media but consuming it. Its made me super introspective and considerate overall. I honestly wish I had tried it back in high school because I might have gotten over some of my personal issues sooner.

>>10259279
Yeah, it makes any sexual stimulation for me mindblowing.