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>>19028973
Before 1990, that would have been the thinking. And it would have been correct. But QE starting in the 90s caused the markets to begin inflating that was accelerated in 2008 (and likely will again now in 2020). Most of these gains have been highly asymmetrical in the market, with a focus on tech over the last 2 decades that has left traditional sector divvy stocks in the dust with the kinds of returns you can expect. The stock prices are discounted by the divvy and unlikely to outpace the overall movement of the rest of the market.
Divvy stocks are garbage for long term growth and give you "permanent income" once you have already made it by amassing $300k+ into the market. With a diversified portfolio you'd need to have basically already saved nearly a 1 million dollars to get 30k a year. That is just not worth it.
Divvy stocks are the new bonds since bonds have been trashed since 2008 and will likely be trashed even harder going forward. Don't think of them as somehow good value from the market.

>>18979857
I will repeat my strategy that I have done many times. When I see the VIX die and stay dead so the crab fucks off I am going into SOXL, SPXL, QQQ, TQQQ whatever. That is how I will diversify.
QE just creates new bubbles that require more QE to "fix" the next time around. The only guaranteed result of QE is inflation of assets so it doesn't matter how "fake and gay" I think the market is, I am going to ride that bitch with leveraged ETFs. I just want to be a little smart about when to pick it up to ride them a little bit higher
I won't be "timing a bottom". I won't be eating it from the crab.

>>18956887
Here is my point. If you had waited until it had "nearly" returned in 2011 - nearly 3 years later (I am arguing about the VXI not arguing for this time scale) you would have doubled your investment.
VIX fucks the gains. I am a fan of the gains of SOXL and SPXL. I am not going in until the crab and VIX fuck off.