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761623 No.761623 [Reply] [Original]

is she right?

>> No.761626

Yes.

>> No.761628

>>761626
PD. I didn't knew about her, but reading some of her tweets one thing is clear: she's fucking BASED.

>> No.761629

>she
but still right

>> No.761634

>>761623
Ofc she is.

If you're doing it at least make it clear for unaware consumers that you used premade stuff, because they can't tell the difference. Almost the same as Megascans, at least I accept that I'm a retard who can't into materials properly when I'm using it.

>> No.761638

>>761623
Yes

>> No.761639

>>761634
>make it clear for unaware consumers that you used premade stuff
Why? Customers pay for images of a given topic. They don't necessarily care for the how it was made. That's a matter of interest only to artists.

Btw I'm no dazlet, but I don't see why customers should be made aware of what tools or shortcuts one used.

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>>761639
>Customers pay for images of a given topic. They don't necessarily care for the how it was made. That's a matter of interest only to artists.
They are not artist, but pretend they are and misrepresenting their "work".
It is definitely of interest for customers. If they pay artist prices they should get artistic work.

>> No.761643

Sounds like someone is just jealous because they didn't capitalize on the gobbo incest VN market before it became saturated with Russian 0.0001 alpha shovelware

>> No.761644

>>761623
>from scratch
Then its not art, art is related to skill mastery, if you are throwing paint to a blank canvas then you are a retard, not an artist

But a product is different because you can sell shit and people are dumb enough to buy it, Daz faggots make products (shitty products) and daz shit is not art, they can sell it as it is, but calling it art sound fucking retarded

>> No.761647

>>761623
Literally who?
Also lmao sound like "she" mad cuz her art is bad and she is not making any money?

>> No.761649

If you can be replaced by Daz you gotta be completely worthless

>> No.761654
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>>761623
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>> No.761658

>>761623
Hell no she isn't. She sounds like a jealous cunt. All she is saying is "not doing it my way is cheating.'

All that matters is the final product, the art. Doing x/y/z to get there doesn't fucking matter. There is no cheating, except maybe literally stealing someone else's work.

Inb4 "hurfdurf dazlet." Nope, never touched it, never looked at it, don't even like it. But if someone creates something good out of it, they created something good out of it. If they can profit from it, great. Good for them.

>> No.761660

>>761623
>>woman
>>opinion
>>null and void

gotta create from scratch or art no real

>> No.761661

What tools does she use anyway?

>> No.761662

>>761661
"She" is not even 3D artist, she draw furry and horsefucking shit
But she sound like one of those people who think 2D is a REAL art and unlike 3D

>> No.761672

>>761623
She isn't, Daz is just a tool. Just because she doesn't like "because reasons" doesn't make it not valid to be used to create whatever is you want to do with it

>> No.761674

>>761662
>she draw furry and horsefucking shit
why would a furry artist of all people even care about daz? furry commissioners are loaded anyway

>> No.761675

>>761623
I'm surprised no one told op to go back to /ic/

>> No.761701
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761701

>>twitter hot takes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readymades_of_Marcel_Duchamp

Also , is pic attached art?

>> No.761704

>>761623
Modelling is only one step of the process.

>> No.761706
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761706

>all these butthurt dazlets qqing

>> No.761711

>>761623
No, pure cope to call successful things "not true art" while pretending your unsuccessful art failed because people don't appreciate "true art"

Mind you, Daz is absolute shit and the people that like it have something wrong with their brain and should probably be corrected or culled, but calling something "not art" is even worse

>> No.761717

Based Daz making people seethe.

>> No.761721

>>761623
yep, all the way

>> No.761722 [DELETED] 

>>761623
>wagecuck seething
besides that, nothing you is art. you are trained monkeys, slapping together disposable content and some Indians probably do it cheaper and faster(without whining on twatter)

>> No.761723

>>761662
She has fairly decent 3d art posted on her twitter. Nothing highend but definitely a couple tiers above daz crap.

>> No.761724

>>761623 (OP)
>wagecuck seething
nothing you fabricate is "true art". you are trained monkeys, slapping together disposable content and some Indians probably do it cheaper and faster(without whining on twatter).

also fuck trannies

>> No.761745

>>761724
>Projection: The Post.

>> No.761746

>>761745
I earn more money with my patreon than you do with your wageslavery and I don't need to pretend I'm doing "art" (which none of you does)

>> No.761748

>>761623
Nobody cares about what women think or say.

>> No.761751

>>761642
it's up to the market to decide the prices, not an arbitrary council of salty "expert" artists

>> No.761752

As much as i hate Daz, i can't say it's any worse than that degenerates furry loli tranny fetish filth.

>> No.761753
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>>761748
>women

>> No.761756

>>761658
>All that matters is the final product, the art. Doing x/y/z to get there doesn't fucking matter. There is no cheating, except maybe literally stealing someone else's work.
Calling a daz render 'art' is laughable. And 99% of Daz work IS 'someone else's work'.

>> No.761759

>>761756
Your seething is delicious, tranny

>> No.761765

>>761759
>defending daz
>using the word 'seeth/seething'

yep, it's a braindead zoomer

>> No.761770

>>761765
>seething
Yep, it's a faggot who cut his dick off :DDD DIL8

>> No.761771

>>761623
yes
quick question though: how do I use Daz? Any good tutorials out there? I wanna make a character with big boobies :)

>> No.761783

Nah fuck her
I like making clothing and dressing the Barbie dolls up in all kinds of different clothes
Why would I waste my time modeling characters

>> No.761784

>>761649
This desu

>> No.761786

Her tweets are pretty based desu but I still like Daz so she's just jelly

>> No.761787

>>761751
those niggers are envious of us who make money without much effort

>> No.761790
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761790

HELLO??
BASED DEPARTMENT??

>> No.761798

>>761623
Not only right but over 9000% correct.

>> No.761799

>>761623
No. She's just too lazy to learn DAZ herself.

>> No.761803

>>761799
>learn daz

learn how to import somebody else's complete character, crank the ass slider to max, pose it, and press render?
Every time the daz containment thread leaks you retards remind me why i have that shit collapsed.

>> No.761811
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>>761803
Learning to use character creators as part of a pipeline can yield very appealing work in a relatively short amount of time.

>> No.761812

>>761746
>I earn more money with my patreon
Furry?

>> No.761816

I didn't know what daz is but, after reading all the posts I understand that people simply steal meshes and/or finished models, pose them differently, apply different lighting effects, render and get shekels? As a Zbrush sculptor all I can say is, I want every single person who use daz to die in a painful way.

>> No.761817

>>761811
Just as you'd expect from pasting together other people's work, it's soulless uninspired garbage.
The only thing appealing about this is a few technical details.

>> No.761824

>>761623
There are artists in the same way photographers are artists: they take take characters, put them in a pose and make a picture out of it. The problem with this is that there is a really small minority of daz artists who actually make good renders. The vast majority who do the whole porn games/animations with it usually have no idea about lighting, composition etc, which a photographer would
there aren't artists as far as 3d art goes since they aren't doing it themselves and just playing with dolls

>> No.761830

>>761746
you make fuckall dog dont lie to yourself, noone else believes you

>> No.761831

>>761816
yes, it's The Sims but used to make shitty porn VNs and comics

>> No.761832

>>761629
Uh oh
Is "she" a tranny
Now all the futa scat shit they make makes sense.
The fact that it includes little boys a lot of the time is a bit concerning...

>> No.761841
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>>761623
>Capitalize on porn while raging at others doing the same

>> No.761855

It's gatekeeping, pure and simple. It well never be a good argument.

>> No.761856

>>761623
It's not talent, it's practice.
Put youself to do things atleast 1 hour at day, keep simple and small dont do a full character or a complex sfi shit.

>> No.761857

Totally

>> No.761859

>>761856
This
Talent don't exist, it just how much time and effort you willing to put
People who think they are talented cuz of X and other people are shit cuz they use X tools are fucking retards

>> No.761860

> https://twitter.com/Marmalade_Mum/status/1292940204483829760

/thread

>> No.761867

>>761856
If there's anything I learned, it's that practice makes permanent, so it's important to have focused practice sessions. 1 hour of concentration can trump multiple hours of useless wanking around.

>> No.761869

>>761623
>coomers
>art community
L M A O

>> No.761871

>>761623
>landwhale tranny degenerate vs dazlets
Is this a stealth pol thread? I don't care. "She" is just pissed there's people making more money for much less effort. Good for them, I say. So long as the dazlets here don't act like that one guy who tries to show off one of the models he modified, good for them.

>>761867
Yeah, you have to give yourself the opportunity to improve. It's no good doing the same things you always do, even if it's fun, because you're not growing. That's why dazlets and these porn "modelers" never get any better. There's not much different between adjusting boob and ass sliders and doing the same modeling procedure you've done hundreds of times before.

You have to be a porn addict to think any of this garbage looks good.

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>>761623
Degenerate porn peddler complains about other degenerate porn peddlers.

>> No.761874

>>761856
Aptitude does affect the rate at which you learn and time is limited.

>> No.761881

>>761812
Yes. The worst kind, but I do it to extract money from rich retards.

>>761830
3k of easy money on top of the income from my day job.

>> No.761885

>>761856
You need talent to perform certain tasks well or at least above average. Not everyone can fill every role equally, no matter how intensive or prolonged the training.

>> No.761887

Of course she is right. But money doesn't care about artistic value. You are creating for the lowest common denominator lol.

>> No.761893

>>761860
That slut has the fucking nerves to complain

>> No.761894

>>761623
>twitter screencap
>>/v/

>> No.761896

>>761623
No. The last thing the art community needs is more porn shitters making bank by appealing to coomers. It's not real art. Also it sucks to downplay the hard work real artists have done by calling it "talent".

Erotica garbage is not art. It's just lazy.

>> No.761904

The only DAZ artists are those making original content for the store. Everybody else is playing with 3D dolls.

>> No.761906

>>761623
She names (((THEM)))

She's still a degenerate, but would double fist her asshole and cunt if asked and power face fuck as a reward.

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>>761904

>> No.761921
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>>761623
Yes but she’s a slut who refuses to get a real job and instead chooses to contribute to the coomer epidemic so I don’t care about her opinion

>> No.761929

>>761921
>Maya
Truly a patrician slut. She's got my vote.

>> No.761949

>>761921
mommy

>> No.761955

>Epic meme arrows outside 4chan
>Furry dick girls and bestiality
>edgy as fuck twitter posts looks like something from 4chan
>patreon milking
>pretending to be a woman

I willing to bet my left ball its not a female but 17 yo tranny
i'm also willing to bet my right ball this tranny is browsing /ic/ and probably already posted something here

>> No.761981

>>761921
At least not a blendlet

>> No.762036

>>761921
she gets more based by the nanosecond

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>>761811
if it wasn't for the dragon ball logo I legit would have no idea who the fuck that is supposed to be

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>>761623
>ITT seething trannies getting their assholes remodeled by DAZchads

>> No.762054

>>761955
whoever they are they're based.

>> No.762081

>>761701
That actually takes effort and vision.

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>>761658
Pictured: the good art that gets created via Daz

>> No.762152

>>761623
It's not Daz fault that people can't tell the difference from your "art" and daz shitposts

>> No.762155

>>762150
Absolute shit, but preferable to furfaggotry and horse dicks

>> No.762160

>>761623
I ain't familiar with this bitch, but she has a point about DAZ being shit. 9 times out of 10 people don't even try to make the renders look good. the premade assets thing is a little confusing though, considering all the other software out there does the same thing.

>> No.762161

>>762160
>the premade assets thing is a little confusing though, considering all the other software out there does the same thing.
what do you mean?

>> No.762169

>>761921
she only fucks femboys, sorry

>> No.762190

>>761623
Daz is a whole genre of porn in and of itself. Drawn giantess porn doesn't get much traction but daz stuff gets loads of views and payments. Daz cuck stuff is on the rise too. Some people just prefer 3d art over 2d, it's that simple.

>> No.762272

>>761921
BRAAAAP

>> No.762282

>>761841
they're talking about people using daz, not porn creators in general dummy

>> No.762684

>>761921
So she's just mad that people would rather easily make their own cg porn instead of throwing money at her to show her ass on onlyfans. shitty DAZ cg posing > real life chunky pig, any day

>> No.762690

>>761623
She's right, it's not real art, but the market doesnt give a shit. Artists have a hard time understanding that.

>> No.762770

>she.
>daz art is objectively garbage.
Wrong on both counts I guess, lmao.

>> No.762781

Would you call it art if I bought some Barbie dolls, dressed them in aftermarket Barbie clothes, put them into a doll house and snapped a photo?

>> No.762783
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>>762781
Sure, why not. Vermeer did it.

>> No.762786

>>762781
Would you call it art if I drew someone taking a fat shit?

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>>762786

>> No.762798

>>762783
Looks like DAZ-like, especially the expression and skin material

>> No.762802

It really does.

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wait, you're telling me that the person who draws pictures of strawberry shortcake shitting out strawberry ice cream is actually a chick?

>> No.762831

>>761623
>someone who draws bestiality porn thinks they can decide what is and isn't art

lol

>> No.762836

>>762831
she's really good at it though, dazlet

>> No.762842

>>762819
>strawberry shortcake
pedo alert

>> No.762845

>>762819
degenerate tumblr tranny*

>> No.762848

>>761623
It's not art, it's product. You're not artists, your low-skilled or at best technicians.

>> No.762854

>>762836
I don't use Daz, but I'd rather hang with dazlets than an animal fucker

>> No.762930

>>761623
Look if they are not appealing to their audience or consumers good chance they are the ones in the wrong
No need to reinvent the wheel to make money anything you consider hard wark at that point is just a passion project

>> No.763423

>>761623
Remember how quickly Rage Comics became shit when memebase made their rage comic generator?
Instantly. Rage comics became shitty the SAME DAY memebase created that fucking generator.

>I should be able to make art without having any artistic talent
The people who believe this are the snowflakes people screech about. They can't achieve anything for themselves and get upset at the idea that nobody's doing the legwork for them.

>> No.763436

>>763423
Rage comics were always autistic cringe

>> No.763457

What is daz exactly? If people just import a model, why does it all look so samey and shit?

>> No.763460

>>763436
Which is fitting considering at the time most of us here were autistic cringe

>> No.763470
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>>761623
Daz is a terrible product and a cancer, but it's also a containment zone for a special breed of coomers and untalented folks. Leave it alone.
>>761811
Doesn't look remotely close to the Dragonball style.
>>762842
Strawberry who? And why do you know her?

>> No.763482

>>763436
People didn't used to think so, tourist.

>> No.763498

>>763470
>Strawberry who?
My first thought.

>And why do you know her?
Google. It seems to be a character for kids.

>> No.763551

>>761623
Yes but it's a bad look and no one will listen.

>> No.763562

>>761623
No. 'the art community' isn't a thing. 'real art' isn't a thing. And she's actually complaining that someone called her talented. If she's really an artist she can use the skills she's learned, apply them to DAZ, make superior products, and more money. The truth is that it can't actually be done lazily, and that's why she isn't doing it. Even low skill smut comics take time.

>> No.763574

>>761623
Daz is akin to photography.

She's (?) essentially saying photography isn't art because they don't "create their subjects"? Lighting, DoF, zooms and whatever the fuck these people do.

I hate Daz with a blazing passion but it is what it is... a virtual "modelling agency studio" where special people play doll with scarily uncanny models and unusually sharp and migraine inducing lighting.

If squirting paint our of your ass onto a canvas is art, then so is my toast buttering in the morning, and Daz all the same.

>> No.763576

EVERYTHING IS ART

I AM AN ARTIST

TRUST ME, I KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS

BECAUSE I AM AN ARTIST

>> No.763577

Post your artstation profiles or just shut up faggots

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>>761623
No rules just tools.

Also this artist makes a bunch of stuff of degenerate anthro animal x human stuff so that immediately lowers their standing.

>>761841
This
"My porn art is actual art!!!"
"We don't need low quality daz porn!!"
Seriously, degenerate coom artists have some pretty big egos, must be scared that people more degenerate than them will take all the autist money with garbage Daz futa renders.

Simply put autists will fork over money for turds, retarded coom artist thinks their polished turd automatically means they are a better artist when it really doesn't matter to autists jerking off to twinks sucking horse cock.

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>>762781
>Would you call it art if I bought some Barbie dolls, dressed them in aftermarket Barbie clothes, put them into a doll house and snapped a photo?
If a coomer is wanting a cg pic of Tracer getting railed by a Werewolf they don't give a shit if you get a pre-made models and assets forit.

For some reason the tranny in OP's pic wants to pretend they are a real artist making "real art" because they model the horsecock instead of grabbing a premade one.

>> No.763664

>>762161
You got people either selling or distributing premade assets like tables and even character models not unlike what DAZ does.

>> No.763796

>>761623
holy fuck her stuff is weird

>> No.763910

>>762150
Goliath online!

>> No.763970

>>761921
Lmao been fallowing her for years, never realized its a woman ....
The name kinda makes sense now.