/3/ - 3DCG

Already discussed this multiple times. Money laundering scheme.

>>807037
>Money laundering
I doubt that, this is something entirely different

>>807039
Yes, Illuminati, space reptiles and DA JOOS

>>807035
meanwhile I'm slaving away creating complex 3D models for minimum wage
Fuck my life

>>807047
How can it be money laundering, everything is fully traceable via the blockchain.

>>807049
This. But it was your choice to invest so much time into becoming a specialized industry 3d monkey with "muh proper workflows", instead of pursuing different ways of making money, like the one in the OP, wasn't it?

>>807051
That only leaves mental illness

>>807035
What's wrong with it? It's an art. Not that you would understand.

>>807055
>Not that you would understand

It's money laundering / money hiding and tax evasion, simple as that.

I guarantee most of these 'artists' on a first name basis with the initial buyers of their work.

>>807063
It most likely is a money laundering scheme for most.
I doubt the artists know the buyers, that doesn't really matter if this is just about tax evasion.
It has some resemblance to contemporary art market money schemes but def is different, and even less regulated.
This all will trigger a financial investigation, I'm sure of it. The NFT boom will not be without consequences.

Yet, the money is real.
It always perverse seeing this much money flowing around while most of us live minimum wage or the eternal lie of a middle class.

browsing Superrare actually got me interested in purchasing C4D, and i've never done any modeling/sculpting/etc

>>807069
C4D is too expensive for what it offers, at least the perpetual license.

>>807070
C4D seems perfect, I've been lurking for years and never really tried any of the programs but I've watched tutorials on how to do advanced shit in several of the popular programs, and watching someone use C4D is the first time I've felt excited/compelled to get started using this type of software.

I'm particularly interested in making dumb little GIFs like these NFTs as content for my IG/website, but I'm more interested in making product renderings (I sell my own CADD designs with 3d printing) for my website, with crazy abstract artistic effects for the renders that I could never achieve in real life.

I'm also a music producer and see potential for making abstract album art and VDJ loops.

Do you still think C4D would be a bad option for me? What would you suggest in its place and how do they stack up against each other?

>>807069
It is just a tool, bro. How many times is it necessary to explain it? You can do art with any program, just download Blender and get going.

>>807074
Sorry, I forgot to mention, let's assume money isn't a problem

>>807076
>>807075

>>807076
You're not going to jail for saying that you're about to pirate C4D on the internet you dumb fucking faggot

>>807035
>>disabled
>>makes moola

good for him

>>807083
I dont think thats what I meant, I think what I actually meant was Im not a broke fuck like you and can afford to spend your months rent on a computer program.. oh wait I doubt your rent is even that much. Yikers! xd pogchamp!

>>807108
How about you actually start learning how to do 3DCG instead of watching tutorials for programs you don't have? I suggested to get started with Blender, but go ahead and buy C4D if that's what you want, nobody cares. Just remember that no amount of money you throw at software is gonna help you if you're bad at art. Tools don't matter. Period.

>>807035
I have no confidence as of now in the community and it's system
You can just download the high-res display file of the nft freely, instead of actually buying the nft, thus making the NFT's value redundant
There's a strong consensus that this is money laundering. Perhaps even the artists/traders may know their buyers criminal intentions, and are in on it.
There will be an investigation when the social media famous get on the bandwagon, and when NFT popularity turns exponentially. People will get arrested, the people that know them will panic. Shit will stir.
Throw in the fact that a chunk of the NFT's are of poor taste, memes that will age poorly, and of bare creativity, and there's a Bubble coming out of the stirring pot.
That said, I love cryptoart for giving crypto ACTUAL VALUE. But I can't trust NFT's cause of the above.

>>807035
what's a NFT?

>>807052
I've never been given a choice between a) become a good artist, and you'll maybe get a well-paid job where you're treated fairly; or b) just do whatever and maybe you'll earn thousands in this new blockchain craze called "NFT". Perhaps, because the second choice sounds ridiculous without foresight.

>>807075
>just download Blender and get going.
*wink wink*

>>807112
>You can just download the high-res display file of the nft freely, instead of actually buying the nft, thus making the NFT's value redundant
But this wouldn't be a "signed" copy, so to speak, only a copy of it, and wouldn't hold value in comparison. Or do I understand NFTs wrongly?

WHAT ARE NFTs ?!

>>807248
no, you understood right. it's all about who has the very first sample.

>>807035
Sounds shady

>>807035
Garbage and cancer
Hopefully die very soon

>>807456
>>807252
You will nmi

>>807035
i know some major NFT folks, it's all fake. unless you have a bidder lined up before auction, youre not going to get those moonshot bids. it's laundering in the same way galleries did it but NFTs replace gallerists with blockchain operators. don't be fooled into minting NFTs for a quick buck. This isn't a real marketplace

>>807035
It's just another form of art trading. But with authenticators that use up a shitload of energy.

Fix that issue and it's no different than rich dudes buying ugly paintings at insane prices as grey investments. In other words, don't expect to make anything from it without the right connections. Quality be damned

This whole NFT market shit gives the vibe of AI. They all talk the same.

>>and once more, the popular kids get everything, yet again

>>807035
Here's your NFTs bro,
https://foundation.app/katherine/gemnyanaaa-drgndash-grayyywrld-codexu-u-alien-3442

>>807660
What is it cum and poppy seeds.

>>807270
Yet, wouldn't it be more smarter to make all free copies low resolution and the bought/signed copy be high resolution/raw model?

A few months ago before they really took off I would watch the bids on some of these things, and it was all VCs and hedge funds that were also invested in the NFT platforms and Ethereum/crypto in general. They were seeding this little economy with the hopes that it would grow much larger and eventually the volume would be more organic. To them a few million here and there is nothing, since they're expecting a return via the platform equity / trading fees. They also did it to get those "$x million spent on a JPG" headlines to spark the goldrush. And it all worked. I'm seeing mediocre artists make close to a million dollars in ETH, and instead of cashing out, they turn around and invest in other artist NFTs to keep the game going. Eventually sellers run out of greater fools and these illiquid JPGs will become unsellable. Infinite supply of shit artists and very little organic demand, at least at these valuations. Cryptopunks are already being repriced lower. Who knows how long the bubble will last but I cringe when I see artists quitting their day job, thinking this is a sustainable source of income.

>>807500
>unless you have a bidder lined up before auction
Can the bidder be anonymous? If so, shilling yourself could be worth it.

>>807671
As with non-crypto art, even a technically perfect copy has no value if it's not approved/signed by the author. So those copies being easy to make shouldn't be an issue.

This is a position that I personally find weak to hold. But as long as the market agrees with it, I won't care.

>>807674
To add, the "money laundering" thing people keep mentioning here is probably overstated. It's closer to a pump and dump / wash trading / painting the tape, etc, which happens a lot in crypto markets as a form of advertising whatever speculative vehicle. The top influencers that are raking in money through this are being used by these whales for their massive audiences. They find an artist who is the shelling point of a particular community and they make them rich, so they start going on twitter to boast about it. The art itself is irrelevant. In fact, the shittier the artwork they're bidding up is, the more of the "hey I can do better than that" effect takes hold, and more people hop in.

>>807660
What if this is a actually a sex trafficking ring and they just sold this girl for 1.3k

>>807660
Those books weren't read. Disgusting.

>>807679
That makes sense, I've almost all the "art" is absolute garbage tier and not even interesting to look at.

>>807679
this is everyone cash out method:
1. dont report or under-report crypto holdings for years or even decades.
2. create .jpeg NFT
3. Purchase NFT from yourself after anonymizing through XMR + tornado cash
4. You now have $1mm from one transaction that you cash out and pay taxes on.

ez

>>807676
yes, depending on the auction the bidder is typically anonymous. the people currently pumping ETF bids are the artists themselves, the blockchain techs, and speculative investors (which is a diverse pool of interests).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK5zh8ZTKO0
this does a good job explaining the people that run the art "market" - their job is to turn artists into stocks which accrue value in time, getting money invested from a list of speculators at the start. That's the real logic of EFTs. Launder money, or invest/accrue value.

>>807765
Fellow KIRAC connoisseur

>>807674
>>807679
>>807765
Interesting, thanks. I might get off my ass to put all of the caveats here into a compendum

>>807679
>>/3/thread/788041#p788444
This post has good elaboration involving wash trading/money laundering
https://www.cryptoartnet.com/cryptoart-wash-trading/
https://nonfungible.com/blog/wash-trading-and-why-its-negative-for-non-fungible-tokens
Here's 2 articles by 2 directory news sites of NFT art on wash trading as discussed in >>788444

maybe try your luck on a REAL nft site... http://qloppi.com

>>807853
Satire, I hope.

>>807037
>Money laundering scheme.
Why would he announce this sale on Twitter while being part of the scheme?

>>807051
>everything is fully traceable via the blockchain.
I believe you can cover your tracks by converting to non-traceable cryptocurrencies.

Confirm or debunk.

>>807733
You are the kind of person who thinks an encyclopædia is meant to be read from cover to cover. You obviously know nothing about books and reading.

>>807725
Alex Jones needs a much bigger tinfoil hat.

>>807888
Simp and cope harder, faggot. You can clearly see in her eyes the despair of lacking the time, and the will, to read. Every time she records a new ""art"" piece, she sees her untouched library in the cam preview, cries, and tries to quell her pain by eating stupid fruit. That's what makes her art powerful: it's a reflection on the inescapable battle between the aspiration and the practical that we all, as humans, all experience; and a display of failure both as a falling, and the opportunity that therein lies for growing in a new, stronger direction.

>>807904
>bitter that this bitch is making money eating fruit and you're some worthless shitposting poorfag
SEETHE

>>807660
>"Artists"

>>807926
image

>>807904
You would make the mistake of underestimating the power of her work because, when viewed without this context, it's not a beautiful thing; you wouldn't be the first person to underestimate the power of the work of someone whose primary identity is the artist.

Yet the beauty of Kathy's work is not only in its inherent beauty, but because it's a reflection of how we all deal with failure and the future; when you understand the pain in what she puts on screen, you have a new understanding of both how her work and her life are connected, and what drives her; as both an artist and a human being, she isn't someone with a story; she's a person, and that's what makes her work.

>>807927
>>2nd class artists
at least we won't be contributing to the upcoming environmental disaster that will blot out the sky

>>807035
Big artists are dusting off their old twitter accounts. They're all going to get rich and you'll get nothing.

>>807725
>s girl for 1.3k
LOL too old and too ugly

I'll try making an article on the likely downfall of NFT and Cryptoart
In case my laptop wipes all of my shit again, here's the research sources that I might use
>ETH
reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/83lpb7/under_what_scenarios_could_ethereum_fail/
reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6ff916/an_argument_why_ethereum_will_fail_thoughts/
steemit.com/ethereum/@joseph/why-will-ethereum-fail
bitsonline.com/top-5-reasons-ethereum-fail/
techcrunch.com/2018/09/02/the-collapse-of-eth-is-inevitable/
financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/ethereum-struggles-under-the-weight-of-defi-growth-is-eth-doomed-to-fail/
medium.com/@cameronwall/why-building-projects-on-ethereum-are-destined-to-fail-17d98f2ac95a
coingeek.com/ethereum-2-0-is-an-unexploded-regulatory-bomb/
reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/lmday3/flaws_in_ethereum_am_i_misunderstanding_things/
coindesk.com/ethereum-flash-crash-kraken-crypto-markets
nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/ethereum-is-doomed/
quora.com/What-are-the-problems-in-ethereum
hackernoon.com/the-top-critiques-on-ethereum-a-bubble-waiting-to-pop-6ccf9b577d11
crowdfundinsider.com/2020/06/162417-ethereum-2-0-has-fatal-flaws-in-the-way-staking-ended-up-being-implemented-konstantin-kladko-from-skale-network-claims/
bitcoinexchangeguide.com/ethereum-suffers-from-fundamentals-flaws-is-it-the-new-normal/
investorplace.com/2021/01/why-ethereum-eth-can-keep-going/
perfectial.com/blog/ico-and-ethereum-bubble/
investopedia.com/news/it-possible-ethereum-not-bubble/
reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/58dvzg/ico_fever/

>>808068 (cont.)
>definitions
investopedia.com/terms/p/paintingthetape.asp
investopedia.com/terms/p/pumpanddump.asp
https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world
nonfungible.com/blog/wash-trading-and-why-its-negative-for-non-fungible-tokens
cryptoartnet.com/cryptoart-wash-trading/
>???
coindesk.com/crypto-nft-trading-rari-yield-farming
issworldtraining.com/ISS_WEBINARS/2021MarNFT.htm
cryptobriefing.com/crypto-art-fraud-rarible-sparks-governance-discussion/
coindesk.com/nft-marketplace-tokens-enj-rari-flow-crypto-risks

always open to suggestions

>>808069 (cont.)
>>/3/thread/788041#p788444
https://twitter.com/mintable_app/status/1308240771573714944
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>>807765
>>807753
>>807674
>>807679
>>807678
>>807500
tagging for reference