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>>731720
yeah but like... higher definition and i guess you can... deform it much easier without adding extra verts and polys...

>>732121
>>731720
>so a voxel is like the 3D equivalent of a pixel or something
Yes however far more memory intensive and limited. Remember you can only move in 90 degree angles with voxels while polygons let you do any angles as long as its a straight line.

Polygons look better since they can approximate curvatures far better then voxels.

See old games.

>>731720
See this picture.
What looks better?
I think this explain to you everything you need to know about voxels and why they are not used.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/762-voxels-vs-vertexes-in-games

>>732705
>Voxels are not used in games
Have you not heard of the best selling game of all time?

>>732768

>>732768
retard

Why the fuck is this coofer shitpost still active? Just fuck off with it already, OP already had is laugh and left.

>>732768
>>Voxels are not used in games
Did I ever say that?

I pointed out how voxels look and why they are not used because of their ridiculous limitations. a voxel can only move at 90 degrees and gives this look polygons allow for far better and cheaper approximation of curvature and everything else.

Of course voxels where used only not in minecraft* you zoomer idiot. Some games like delta force used them for terrain basically 2x2D pictures one for height information the other for textures. Only this did get out of favor.

>of the best selling game of all time
Tetris?

In all seriousness minecraft does not use true voxels it actually uses polygon cubes and these polygon cubes are textured like every other 3D object in every polygon game. It uses some voxel like algorithm to determine the placement in a grid of these polygonal cubes.

True voxels are 1 voxel 1 color like pixels.
And voxels are not supposed to be this big see delta force 1 another indication that these are not true voxels.

>the best selling
This deserves a point and laugh sectioning its 1 Indy game that used this aesthetic. Nothing about this disproves the fact that voxels are limited.

Also the minecraft characters are polygonal not voxel based because YOU CAN TEXTURE THEM!

So its basically 1 Indy dev making these characters in this style because he can not model for shit.

What exactly was your point?

With this out of the way I have a deep seeded hatred for the cancer that is minecraft. Minecraft is a game that after 7~30 days you stop playing because it has nothing going for it.

If you want to build a house or anything else learn a 3D modeling program like blender instead of doing the autism of needing to find resources in minecraft and assembling the cubes in the most awkward interface imaginable.

When I was a kid I modeled in demo/trail versions of 3D modeling programs for fun. People who do all these things in minecraft are retarded or actually retarded children.

i believe that niggers, kikes, jews and chinks must all die

>>732805
I post one sentence as a joke and I get a whole essay as a response, sometimes I love this board.

all hail satan true patron of the 3d arts

>>732805

>>732705
the one on the right could work if you colored each of those cubes cohernetly for an overall pixel looking design. What is the name of the style on the right? I think ill try it.

>>732872
>I post one sentence
> I get a whole essay as a response
Your welcome enjoy /3/

>I post one sentence as a joke
Admitting to shitposting? That's a ban.

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>>733196
i actually agree with your point on doing creative shit from scratch as opposed to in a building blocks setting, but please relax anon-kun, your chromosomes are leaking

>>731720
Sometimes I do a fart so bad I have to leave the room.

>>735179
what happened with those aussie fucks actually? did they release ANYTHING?

>>731720
makes me think
are there such thing as voxel antialiasing

>>735276
Those dudes that had said their engine was atoms and shit for everything?
They ended up "finishing" it, making a video arcade where you essentially play the wii in front of a projection screen at 12fps. It was a huge flop.
They still do scans of places for companies though last time I checked, so they're still in business in some capacity. But last time I checked was a few years ago so who knows.

>>732768
Voxels are actually NOT used in Minecraft.

Voxel data - that is, a 3 dimensional array, is used, but minecraft still displays everything using polygons.

>>735276
Their tech was predictably useless for games, but pretty useful for architectural and medical stuff IIRC.

>>731720
I mean like, (inhales) if you think about it, (blows smoke) that means minecraft is like... a modeling program or something (inhales) like... but with voxels (coughs violently) maaaan...

>>731720
I hate ths face and want to smash and kick it

There's an interesting parallel between 2d vector graphic and bitmaps in the early days, and polygon and voxels, as they are pretty much the same with an added dimension.

In the very early days all images were vector graphics because computer simply didn't have the memory for bitmaps. The formats were a mess, everyone did it differently, but it had the added benefit of being infinitely scalable/resizeable. As computer memory became greater and greater, the hassle of vector images were tuned out for simple list of pixels, bitmaps. Bitmaps can be easily shared. The formats are simple. The pictures will always look the same. They can be compressed.

Extremely common complexity/memory trade-off in computer science.

3d is still in its "vector graphics" stage, with all the competing standards it comes with. Unfortunately, it seems computer memory will never reach the point when voxels can become viable alternatives and as easily shared as a bitmap. The trade-off in that case is not worth it. Graphic cards nowadays have far more computing power than memory, and it seems it won't change in the close future.

>>737655
Even if memory explodes you still have the fact you can create much more interesting surfaces with the same amount of data storing polygons over voxels.